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25 Jul 2026   #91
I think Jon's answer is more on point.

No, it's not. The Nordstream pipeline was built to provide the whole EU with natural gas, not only Germany.

Let Germany buy on the open market like every other country

Well, Russia was an open market at the time Nordstream 1 was built and in operation. So where's the problem apart from your dislike for Russia and Germany? Where does that hate come from anyway? You were much more chill before you became Polish.


jon357  77 | 26108
25 Jul 2026   #92
ussia was an open market

Still a pariah state. There should be no exports from r*SSia.

dislike for R***** and Germany

Nobody likes r*SSia for obvious reasons. Germany's fine though, everyone loves them including me.

There just never be another Nordstream though; there's no reason for them not to buy hydrocarbons on the open market, a level playing field


mafketis  46 | 12398
25 Jul 2026   #93
where's the problem apart from your dislike for Russia

russia invaded Ukraine, you doorknob....


Tacitus  2 | 1471
25 Jul 2026   #94
thrown away" is definitely not democratic

Why? People vote for the AfD in the knowledge that a) the programme of the AfD makes it impossible for other parties to form a government with them b) the AfD doesn't want to form a coalition government in the first place.

Just because a party gets votes doesn't mean it is entitled to get power. PiS got more votes than any other party in the last election, yet is no longer in power, because it could not work together with other parties.


Bratwurst Boy  10 | 13166
25 Jul 2026   #95
Just because a party gets votes doesn't mean it is entitled to get power.

This argument gets ridiculous quickly if the same people advocate even a coalition with the Left just to keep the AfD out!

You know....the antisemitic, pro-Hamas-Left, the Left who also wants the system including its Basic Law changed, the Left which is at least in the GDR the follow-up of the PDS, which was the follow-up of the SED, the same party which imprisoned and killed people against all laws and human rights...this Left!

If that is the price of keeping the AfD from power then that is the big elephant in the room, Tac!


Alien  31 | 8065
26 Jul 2026   #96
Left, the Left who also wants

BB, if you're walking through a field near Berlin and you have a choice between stepping in a big fresh cow **** or in smaller horse droppings, what would you choose? As you can see, sometimes the choice is difficult.


gumishu  15 | 6423
26 Jul 2026   #97
sometimes the choice is difficult.

the choice is actually quite easy: horse droppings are solid and relatively dry, while fresh cow sh.t is wet and slippery


gumishu  15 | 6423
26 Jul 2026   #98
@gumishu

an afterthought: I think I remember having slipped on a horse sh.t in the past, actually


Bratwurst Boy  10 | 13166
26 Jul 2026   #99
BB, if you're walking through a field near Berlin and you have a choice between..

What many don't get....the communist sh*t is for many people still alot more fresh and stinky than the nazi sh*it....there are many people still alive which have lived through that, but for 99% the Nazi-droppings are old and dry and don't stink the same way anymore....


Tacitus  2 | 1471
26 Jul 2026   #100
then that is the big elephant in the room, Tac!

I'd argue the big elephant in the room is that even though the Left is all that what you described (and more), it is still the lesser of two evils compared to the AfD.

The Left party holds many unacceptable positions, but it would still be possible to form a government with it that gets some (though not many) things done.

Whenever the CDU got frustrated with the SPD the AfD immediately changed a position so that people in the CDU got not even tempted to look right.

The AfD was initially in favour of conscription. Then Höcke forced the party to abandon this position because he wanted to agitate against conscription in East Germany.

It now looks as if we might get the pension reforms that all know are necessary. The CDU would have liked to push through more, but got frustrated by the SPD. And again the AfD shifted the position and now promises pension benefits that would make even the Left party blush.

And that doesn't even go into the AfD's disturbing obsession with Putin and Russia.


Bratwurst Boy  10 | 13166
26 Jul 2026   #101
....The Left party holds many unacceptable positions, but it would still be possible to form....

With the "old" Left possibly....there are voices respected across party-borders....Gysi springs to mind (from my 'hood in East-Berlin:), or Ramelow etc....but not the "new" Left wie Pantisano etc....I very much doubt they even want pragmatic politics, they are as crazy as the worst AfD'ler!


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
26 Jul 2026   #102
Lichtenberg ist dein Kiez??
I didn't know that!

If he ever became Chancellor, he'd be the first one of Jewish descent.


Bratwurst Boy  10 | 13166
26 Jul 2026   #103
Lichtenberg ist dein Kiez?? I didn't know that!

Treptow, bitte schön! (Neuerdings Treptow-Köpenick:)


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
26 Jul 2026   #104
Oh, sorry!
Guess Wiki got it wrong...again.


Joker  2 | 2692
26 Jul 2026   #105
Guess Wiki got it wrong...again.

More like, you got it wrong again.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
26 Jul 2026   #106
Gysi = Lichtenberg (German - Wiki)
Not much to get wrong there, unless, once more, Wiki got it wrong!


Tacitus  2 | 1471
26 Jul 2026   #107
I very much doubt they even want pragmatic politics, they are as crazy as the..

On the federal level maybe. But there are still enough pragmatists left in the Länder to form somewhat functioning governments. People one can talk with.

None of those people are left in the AfD. All of them have been purged a long time ago.

We can thank the AfD for making the Left party appear as the more reasonable party.


Bratwurst Boy  10 | 13166
26 Jul 2026   #108
Oh boy...wie sind wir dahin gekommen....


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
26 Jul 2026   #109
Lord knows, but do let's finally get back on track


mafketis  46 | 12398
27 Jul 2026   #110
It's always the one you most suspect....

Abdul Ballout had German citizenship, for some reason, but his heart was in the middle east where he longed to kill people for his demented religion. Germany found his absence intolerable so they had him sent back and made sure he was free to walk the streets, because.... reasons....

On Saturday, this deranged terrorist drove a vehicle into the Pride Parade and one person died.

And... that person was Polish woman.

Thanks, Deutschland! Your addiction to violent young middle easterners has borne stinking fruit again..

wiadomosci.wp.pl/zamach-w-berlinie-ofiara-byla-obywatelka-polski-7311973035166080a


Bratwurst Boy  10 | 13166
27 Jul 2026   #111
....you are preaching to the huge choir here, Maf!

And more voter/percentages for the AfD, people who have totally lost any trust in the current gov and its tools (or future possible anti-AfD-coalitions) to change this chaos decisively!


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27 Jul 2026   #112
russia invaded Ukraine, you doorknob....

Then hate the Russian politicians who are responsible, not the Russian people in general. Stereotyping much?


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
27 Jul 2026   #113
Merz is losing the battle. Anyway, he's Merkel-lite as it is.


mafketis  46 | 12398
27 Jul 2026   #114
hate the Russian politicians who are responsible, not the Russian people

The russian people are very much responsible for just letting the government do anything it wants... why don't they have the ability to stand up to their government like Poles and Ukrainians?


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
27 Jul 2026   #115
Decades of top down pummeling from higher ups in all phases of officialdom dominating daily life left their mark on the average Russian citizen, leaving them bereft of the will to fight back.


mafketis  46 | 12398
27 Jul 2026   #116
Decades of top down pummeling from higher ups in all phases of officialdom

russians wouldn't have it any other way.... just ask them what they would change in their government if they could.


Lyzko9bda5804d1f
27 Jul 2026   #117
Maybe. Not every Russian's another Novalny!


mafketis  46 | 12398
27 Jul 2026   #118
Not every Russian's another Novalny!

Good cause he sucked... I'm sorry he was killed by the government but the amount of unreasonable hope people were pinning on that nazi was... unsettling.


jon357  77 | 26108
27 Jul 2026   #119
the amount of unreasonable hope people were pinning on that naz

Like making Solzhenitsyn out as some sort of hero of freedom. Despite rightwing nationalistic views.

Just another r*SSian supremacist


mafketis  46 | 12398
27 Jul 2026   #120
Despite rightwing nationalistic views.

I wouldn't even call them rightwing.... he was stuck several centuries in the past, a completely different mentality and credit for standing up to the soviets but he had no useful answers himself.





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