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Polish food shop blown up in the UK - result of gas "leak"?


kaprys 1 | 1,355    
5 Mar 2018  #91
Because that happens in Poland only ;)
Now they taught the British how to do it!

Bigot!
OP Dougpol1 26 | 2,146    
5 Mar 2018  #92
As I agreed before, the British have scum of their own. The thread was started because it was reasonable, given the history in Poland of gas explosions caused by crims diverting the gas, that 2 plus 2 made 4 in this case too.

No apology required, because Poles have made their own history. It's like saying there was a knife attack in East London. I would say, it was likely some Jamaican Yardie gang member - because they have form, or in a drive by shooting in Nottingham, some drug gang feud, because they have form.

all perfectly reasonable. I am glad there wasn't any Polish involvement here, by the way.

Change "likely" for possibly, of course, and my thread might be fairer. But who was ever really fair and balanced about these things?
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
5 Mar 2018  #93
It doesn't make your remark any less bigoted.
Surprisingly enough, I'm Polish and I don't know how to do it.
It's great to live in the UK. It's never 'us', it's always 'them'.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,717    
5 Mar 2018  #94
It's like saying there was a knife attack in East London. I would say, it was likely some Jamaican Yardie gang member -

tbh Doug you are sounding old and outdated . This is simply not the case, any more than a gas explosion is likely to be due to Polish people.

Anyway it was a still that went up, not gas, apparently.

Kaprys do you live in the UK?
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
5 Mar 2018  #95
I used to.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,100    
5 Mar 2018  #96
Anyway it was a still that went up, not gas, apparently.

If this is the case, then yes, Polish people may have been involved. We are better at making stills than at manipulating gas. On the other hand, I've never heard of a still explosion in Poland. And there used to be even huge ones in the deep forests of Podlasie once, producing hundreds of hectolitres of illegal acohol for sale and for local consumption. So no, Polish people would have had more expertise on operating a still properly (unless it is the younger generation of Poles who didn't listen carefully to the clues given to them by their fathers).
Ironside 47 | 9,250    
5 Mar 2018  #97
That Poles have a history of causing explosions by playing with the gas?

So what is your problem if someone says that Muslims have a history of blowing people up? How can you not see your double standards here?
jon357 65 | 13,616    
5 Mar 2018  #98
given the history in Poland of gas explosions

There was a huge bang in the city centre which caused a major alert (it was just after 9/11) due to a woman in a cafe tinkering with a gas bottle. Unfortunately she died, fortunately no customers did.
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
5 Mar 2018  #99
So what's the cause of gas explosions in the UK? Uncle Google comes up with several articles about gas explosions in the uk from within a year.

In Poland it's obvious - those bloody Poles!!!
But in the perfect UK? Among perfect citizens?
shockedInpoland    
5 Mar 2018  #100
That Poles have a history of causing explosions by playing with the gas? You betcha.

This was a petrol explosion, caused by Kurds. One had a Serbian girlfriend who died. No Polish person anywhere near this.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-43287436

Your comments on this thread are pretty idiotic.
jon357 65 | 13,616    
5 Mar 2018  #102
In Poland it's obvious - those bloody Poles!!!

Kaprys. We're talking about a news item involving a Polish shop. You seem to be on the defensive somewhat. And yes, health and safety standards are different in PL from the U.K - both in legislation and in general safety culture.
OP Dougpol1 26 | 2,146    
5 Mar 2018  #103
Your comments on this thread are pretty idiotic.

Yeah? And how long have you lived in Poland then? It's pretty obvious why I for one thought it was Poles up to their old tricks. Give us the benefit of your experience and share what you see happens when the average gas boiler starts playing up?

I'll tell you if you like. Kowalski starts dithering about with it instead of calling a qualified gas engineer, if such do in fact exist at all. Not to mention of course the crims stealing gas, causing the Warsaw gas explosion (which demolished a whole block for crying out loud), and the Katowice tragedy to name just two, which is why I called Poles out for messing with something that they shouldn't be - endangering others.

But you are OK with that are you?
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
6 Mar 2018  #104
@jon357
Don't give me that.
Google 'gas explosion in the UK' and here you go:
Bolton - last month
Harold Hill - last weekend
Leicester - last week
Leicester (again) - last December

And that's just the first page of the results. All of the properties must have been owned by Poles. And if they weren't, some Poles must have sneaked inside just for the sake of playing with the gas installation.

Two bigots have solved it!

It's funny to see your bigotry, guys. It's there, deep inside, but you've been told that you can't make a generalisation about people of different skin colour or religion. But you've got Poles to give vent to your he's-a-foreigner-feelings.

@Dougpol1
So you've been to all Polish homes?
Interesting.
I don't know anyone who'd try to repair the gas installation themselves. Are there idiots who'd try that? Surely. But not only in Poland.

Now will you please stop being vague and tell us what explosions in Katowice and Warsaw you're talking about?
OP Dougpol1 26 | 2,146    
6 Mar 2018  #105
explosions in Katowice and Warsaw

Kaprys, if you can Google all of those incidents in the UK, then I am sure you can read up on the two devastating explosions above. The first one levelled a Warsaw communist-era block to rubble, something even the local authorities have proved unable to achieve. About 15 years ago. Innocent fatalities. Ditto Katowice a couple of years back, a rock solid city centre piece of German era architecture reduced to dust (though that is an unintentional non-sequitur).

Both a result of bypassing the mains gas, er, I mean, the meter.
SigSauer 2 | 443    
6 Mar 2018  #106
Well, it seems that Poles participate in this activity as do other foreign nationals in the UK. This stands in rather stark contrast to the fact that the ONLY people who drive lorry's into crowds of people, blow themselves up at concerts, and participate in FGM subscribe to one particular religious/political ideology.

Lovely news out of Ireland.
irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/female-genital-mutilation-it-s-happening-here-girls-are-being-taken-out-of-ireland-1.3374033
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
6 Mar 2018  #107
@Dougpol1
I have already asked you whether the explosion in Katowice, you mentioned, is the one in which Dariusz Kmiecik and his family were killed. It wasn't an accident or a leak.

As for explosions from 15 years ago, they don't really show up in on page 1 of Google search results.
Gas explosions happen everywhere. Sometimes because of idiots, sometimes because of faulty installation, sometimes because of other reasons.
Who did you blame for all the evil and idiocy in the world before you got to know Poles.
mafketis 16 | 6,285    
6 Mar 2018  #108
It wasn't an accident or a leak.

The latest on the explosion in Poznań is that it was probably intentional to cover up a murder (the beheaded corpse of a woman has been found in the rubble).

newsweek.pl/polska/spoleczenstwo/wybuch-kamienicy-w-poznaniu-mial-zamaskowac-morderstwo-,artykuly,424269,1.html
dolnoslask 5 | 2,182    
6 Mar 2018  #109
The latest on the Polish shop in Leicester is that the migrants used petrol to blow the place up, In court they spoke through an interpreter, more cultural enrichment in Britain, and the EU thinks Poland should take this scum.

Explosion at Polish supermarket that killed five 'was caused by petrol' as three men appear in court charged with arson and manslaughter

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5464701/Explosion-Leicester-supermarket-caused-petrol.html#ixzz58xHNv549
jon357 65 | 13,616    
6 Mar 2018  #110
Don't give me that.

I am "giving you that". Remember ome of us have lived for 30 years in one country and nearly 30 years in the other so know both places very well - and yes, health and safety culture (and legislation) differ in both places.

You seem to be very much on the defensive. As the silly comment below suggests:

And if they weren't, some Poles must have sneaked inside just for the sake of playing with the gas installation.

Perhaps we can only post positive things about Poles and Poland.

And meanwhile the fire doors are locked shut...
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
6 Mar 2018  #111
And when did you last post a positive thing about Poles and Poland? Lol.
All you and Dougpol do here is grumble, grumble and grumble about Poland.
How did you survive 30 years in such a terrible country? It must have been an ordeal. I bet you stayed here just for żurek and ogórki kiszone. Because food seems to be the only thing you like about Poland. Or perhaps you just like eating.

It's not a perfect country. We're not perfect people. But just because I question your bigotry and antipolonism doesn't mean I'm defensive. I'm just fed up with your subjectivism.
jon357 65 | 13,616    
6 Mar 2018  #112
And when did you last post a positive thing about Poles and Poland?

Frequently, though neither my role nor yours is to gloss over the truth.

Lol.

There you go again.

I'm just fed up with your subjectivism.

Feel free to be. The day someone can't post an honest opinion about the place where they've spent most of their life is a sad one indeed.

And yes, health and safety culture in PL differs from the UK.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,100    
6 Mar 2018  #113
In court they spoke through an interpreter, more cultural enrichment in Britain, and the EU thinks Poland should take this scum.

Cultural enrichment aside, what was their motive for blowing the building up?

So it now seems that contrary to what Doug suggested, in both cases (Leicester and Poznań) people acted on purpose rather than trying to pass any meters.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,182    
6 Mar 2018  #114
what was their motive for blowing the building up?

Dunno yet, I think the one guy was the landlord, wanted to get someone out maybe, I dont want to speculate and draw assumptions like Doug .

people acted on purpose

Looks like it doesn't it.
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
6 Mar 2018  #115
@jon
I used to live in East London. It's far from being a safety paradise.
So lie to someone else.
Just because there are look left/right signs at every crossing and the loudspeaker won't stop with 'mind the gap' warning at every Tube station doesn't mean the UK is so freaking great.

If I was a bigot like yourselves, I could really come up with quite a few 'observations' about British people.
So remind me again when you posted something positive about Poland, please.
As for the explosion at the 'Polish shop', Poles were not responsible. End of story. I'm sorry you have to deal with it. Will you pick up on anything else I said to prove it's me who's being defensive? But since you're so good at quoting, feel free to quote all the positive things you 'regularly' say about Poland here.
jon357 65 | 13,616    
6 Mar 2018  #116
So lie to someone else.

Whoever said it was?

If I was a bigot,

No 'if' about it...

Health and safety culture is relatively weak in PL and very strong in UK. The current rise of personal injury lawyers in PL may well change that, however there are still glaring problems involving vehicle safety, fire exits, and HVAC ventilation.

That's just how it is...
Ziemowit 12 | 3,100    
6 Mar 2018  #117
That's just how it is...

An expert on the Rotherham scandal has just spoken ...
jon357 65 | 13,616    
6 Mar 2018  #118
An expert on the Rotherham scandal

I doubt there are any of those here. Nor does it relate to health and safety.
jon357 65 | 13,616    
6 Mar 2018  #119
An interesting article here:

"Polish firemen are heading to Britain... to teach their fellow countrymen how to use our electric sockets safely.

Shock figures show more than 1,000 blazes a year are started in the UK because Polish builders and electricians are too mean to buy new plugs when they come over here to work."

mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/polish-firemen-coming-to-britain-to-teach-398549

"Polish fire service spokesman Henryk Pawlowski said: "The number of fires caused in the UK by Poles using electrical devices is very alarming."
Perhaps Henryk Pawlowski is anti-Polish...
dolnoslask 5 | 2,182    
6 Mar 2018  #120
Maybe not but YOU are! digging up articles from 2009 for gods sake



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