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Polish food shop blown up in the UK - result of gas "leak"?


ShockedInPoland    
3 Mar 2018  #31
Obvious?
telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/03/three-men-chargedfollowing-leicester-explosion-killed-five-people/

Three men of Asian descent charged with manslaughter.

There wasn't a single polish person involved in this sorry sffair5
dolnoslask 5 | 1,918    
3 Mar 2018  #32
Three men of Asian descent charged with manslaughter.

And Doug thinking the perps were Polish

They were also migrants me thinks oops not a good news day.

Lets hope they deport the scum hey Doug.
mafketis 16 | 5,897    
3 Mar 2018  #33
not so fast. this probably changes things...
Chemikiem 5 | 1,130    
3 Mar 2018  #34
don't be ridiculous

It's closed down now but where I live there used to be a Polish shop with all Polish staff, but run by Kurds.

In this particular case, the owner definitely wasn't Polish:

leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/leicester-explosion-court-charged-named-1293748
OP Dougpol1 24 | 1,895    
4 Mar 2018  #35
And Doug thinking the perps were Polish

And why would I be thinking that?

Katowice.
Warsaw.

Poles have previous for this. Killing innocents by ******* about with the gas supply.

Fatal incidents in both cases caused by Poles bypassing the meter. It's also known as culpable manslaughter. I would call it homicide. What's your problem with the truth?

Don't mess with the gas folks. That includes playing with the gas boiler - ring a gas certified engineer. It's the law in safe countries.

They were also migrants me thinks oops not a good news day.

What a baseless and racist driven observation. Crims and scum though they be, the perpetrators probably have more rights than Poles, likely not being migrants, and born in Britain, ergo they are in fact British scum. Now, it may surprise and disgust Poles that some British are actually of Asian descent, but most of us are generally OK with our Asian population, and don't notice that a friend is in fact of Asian origin, but if you don't like Asians , then Poles in Britain know what to do.

And posters like G are the racists here, pretending that Polish scum are a non existent problem, or that they simply don't exist.
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
4 Mar 2018  #36
And if we're talking about the explosion in Katowice in which Dariusz Kmiecik was killed, there were suspicions it might have been connected with with what he had been working, not just 'an accident'.

As for the official report, it's suspected the couple's neighhour who was to be evicted wanted to commit suicide.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,918    
4 Mar 2018  #37
What a baseless and racist driven observation

Here we go again the racist card, I have lived amongst asians, blacks,Italians Irish scottish for most of my life. I am on about migrants who would normally not have a legal basis to be in the UK part from pretending to be a refugee from a war zone.

Poles on the other hand have legal basis to be in the UK under EU and UK law so you are wrong in drawing that comparison.

You need to pack in that Marxist, your a racist your a racist chant Doug it wearing thin in most places in Europe.
SigSauer 2 | 439    
4 Mar 2018  #38
@Dougpol1

I don't care what nonsense is printed in your passport, an "Asian" (Pakistani, lets quit the dishonest euphemisms) will NEVER be British. There are an indigenous people to the British isles, and they are not Pakistanis. I may acquire Polish citizenship after I get married to my fiance, but I'll never be able to call myself Polish, and I would feel dishonest for doing so without at least 1 Polish parent.

What is really disturbing to me is how much you guys trumpet diversity, multiculturalism, and tolerance. Unfortunately the "Asian" community in the UK has absolutely no desire to integrate into British culture, they hold a passport, they pay taxes, and that's where it ends. They have formed insular communities, they are not only discouraged but openly prohibited from marrying non-"Asians," and those that attend faith schools are taught to look at people of other faiths as less than, as 'the other.' If there are good people from the Pakistani community in the UK, they are good people IN SPITE of their cultural and religious beliefs, not because of them.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,396    
4 Mar 2018  #39
an "Asian" (Pakistani, lets quit the dishonest euphemisms) will NEVER be British.

They are British, no matter what you think about the matter.

The vast majority are well integrated, productive and valuable members of society. There are a few bad eggs, just like there are a few bad Polish eggs and a few bad British eggs.

By the way, the same rhetoric was used against Irish people in the UK for many years.
mafketis 16 | 5,897    
4 Mar 2018  #40
In similar news a 'kamienica' (that lives up to the translation 'tenement') in Dębiec southern Poznań was levelled by a gas explosion with one person killed and over 10 more hurt

wiadomosci.wp.pl/wybuch-w-poznaniu-zawalila-sie-kamienica-jedna-osoba-nie-zyje-a-14-jest-rannych-6226529569994881a
delphiandomine 86 | 16,396    
4 Mar 2018  #41
Nothing new there, people blowing up buildings with unauthorised gas installations is pretty much normal in Poland.

I once asked the guy checking the gas installation in my flat why he was being such a pedantic arse about checking it, and he told me he was finding several illegal installations a week!
dolnoslask 5 | 1,918    
4 Mar 2018  #42
what nonsense is printed in your passport

Just a piece of paper invented in Britain of course 600 years ago.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,586    
4 Mar 2018  #43
no Sig the term 'Asian' does not mean 'Pakistani', it could also mean from India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc.., in a British sense.
In an Australian sense it means anyone who looks oriental.

And if someone has a British passport, then they're British.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,918    
4 Mar 2018  #44
Yup henry the V invented it , very sought after indeed.
mafketis 16 | 5,897    
4 Mar 2018  #45
the term 'Asian'

In America it means East Asian (roughly Burma, Mongolia, Japan, Indonesia and everything inbetween) it's partly been expanded to south Asia but their concerns with the US tend to be different and they usually just end being called Indian
SigSauer 2 | 439    
4 Mar 2018  #46
@rozumiemnic

If we were discussing America, I'd tend to agree with you. Does this mean if I acquire a Sri Lankan passport through naturalization, I'd be correct in referring to myself as Sri Lankan? I suppose if we could be more precise about language, I would certainly agree that I'd be a Sri Lankan national, but not ethnically Sri Lankan.

@delphiandomine

Right. Those people who are integrated and productive, are that way IN SPITE of their cultural norms and their religious doctrine, NOT because of it. Their culture endorses honor killings, and their religious texts endorses all manner of misogyny, subjugation, murder, torture, and slavery. I stand up for REAL heroes like Ayan Hirsi Ali and Imam Tawhidi (@ImamOfPeace).
delphiandomine 86 | 16,396    
4 Mar 2018  #47
and their religious texts endorses all manner of misogyny, subjugation, murder, torture, and slavery

Well yes, quite common for religious texts that came out of the Middle East. The Old Testament has it all, too.
SigSauer 2 | 439    
4 Mar 2018  #48
False equivalency, brilliant. That is absolutely true, however Christianity had a reformation and we've evolved and left the more archaic practices in the dust bin where they belong. I cannot recall the last time someone shot up an office full of cartoonists for depicting Jesus negatively while shouting Praise Jesus. There is a problem of systemic violence, murder, and rape within their religion. Denying it will do nothing to pressure them towards reforming their texts and abandoning those practices, or their tacit endorsement through silence. We should have 1,000 more Ayan Hirsi Ali's and 1,000 more Imam Tawhidi's. Why don't we? Because presently there is a fatwa to murder Ayan Hirsi Ali, and there is a $10,000 bounty for whoever beheads Imam Tawhidi who now has a full time security detail in of all places, Australia. I find it morally repugnant that you would deny the pervasive problem of violence within this particular ideology. It is an ideology, nothing more, and like all ideologies should be rigorously scrutinized for its merits.

Also notice Delph, how you said absolutely nothing of substance to refute what I said. Instead, you resorted to the tactic employed most often by Russian trolls: whatabouttery...
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,586    
4 Mar 2018  #49
f we were discussing America, I'd tend to agree with you

Being 'British' is not the same as being English, Welsh, Irish, Scottish..

it is like America these days Sig. At my children's London primary school, 138 languages were spoken. Plus English of course..:):)

But we digress....

What about the exploded Polish shop? I might go and look at the daily Mule.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,918    
4 Mar 2018  #50
. Does this mean if I acquire

Not all people in other countries would recognise you as a fully blown part of their history, culture and ultimately a national, if you just held a passport and no family lineage.

Britain on the other hand, because of factors like empire, adoption of multi culti etc see it differently, if you hold a Brit passport you are a Brit through and through'

Like me I am a brit regardless of my lineage, some say if you are born in a stable it don't make you a horse , but if you were born in Britain or wangled a UK passport you would be a horse, then you would be able to charge off into the sunset chasing mares and eating hay all day long, Brilliant place to move to if you are short of horse feed.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,396    
4 Mar 2018  #51
I cannot recall the last time someone shot up an office full of cartoonists for depicting Jesus negatively while shouting Praise Jesus.

However, I can certainly tell you about how white Christians in Northern Ireland are maiming young people, often for invented "crimes".

independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/teenager-shot-in-both-legs-in-paramilitary-style-shooting-in-belfast-a6829446.html]

There is a problem of systemic violence, murder, and rape within their religion.

Yup, just like in Northern Ireland, with the culture of violence and murder there.

The answer is simple: ban religion, especially those based on Middle Eastern religious texts.
SigSauer 2 | 439    
4 Mar 2018  #52
Look, common ground.
Crow 141 | 7,007    
4 Mar 2018  #53
Poles, when would you learn, my naive sisters and brothers. As long as you are Poles and Slavs and even if you try to be something else, for generations, they will humiliate you and your descendants.

What I want to tell you Poles, come and invest in Serbia, you will feel like at home and nobody won`t humiliate you but rather ever try to support you, from officials to the people in general.

Forget about all anti-Serbian propaganda. This is free zone. Sure, when people once learn that you are Polish it can only bring you luck here. You are loved and respected by Serbians.

Come brothers, abandon that western European lunacy. Let us turn to ourselves.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,586    
4 Mar 2018  #54
so is it easy to set up an illegal still in Serbia then?..:)
SigSauer 2 | 439    
4 Mar 2018  #55
Am I the only one who thinks from the tone of Crow's message, he's about to put out the cups of cyanide laced kool-aid so that all of us can ride the Hail Bop comet?

Thread is wandering away from the original topic
Ironside 47 | 9,038    
4 Mar 2018  #56
how white Christians

WTF? Deph, if you can't put out a decent argument here, be silent rather than spew some dumb sophism.

Are you off your pills again, damn psycho

Look, that dude has a serious problem with alcohol overuse. Add to this picture his illelectual capacity and his age and you have a pretty much Dougie in a pill. I would ignore him if I were you.

(but I'm not a brilliant aristocrat with a sharp sense of humor; that is that is what you imply; so hey feel free to ignore me and me advice)).

Seems that the shop in question was named Zabka. That is a name of the Polish owned ( until recently) chain of convenience stores IN POLAND.

How came this shop was named Zabka?
gregy741 3 | 1,110    
4 Mar 2018  #57
was this shop Polish or shop with polish products? i getting confused..i just read,this shop was owned by some Kurd.
OP Dougpol1 24 | 1,895    
4 Mar 2018  #58
Dougie

Not touched a drop in six months Ironside. Feeling very good actually - it's very nice of you to ask after my well being. Roz and Delph share my views that people born in Britain are British, doesn't matter what language they speak at home.

What annoyed me about Doln's post was he said "immigrants," when he would do well to remember that's what Poles in Britain are. Immigrants - not better or worse than anybody else, but some of them do seem to often look down their noses at other Brits (because they are Asian in origin).

Dolno's post suggested that the "immigrant" is to be pitied or scorned.
We can suppose you may feel the same way there in Norway about Asians and muslims, though you are an immigrant yourself. Laughable, if it wasn't so pathetic.
G (undercover)    
4 Mar 2018  #59
How came this shop was named Zabka?

Quite a few "Polish shops" abroad have names like Zabka, Biedronka etc. as these are brands well known by Poles and they don't seem to be "registered" outside of Poland.

Look here:
facebook.com/NaszaBiedronkaMargate/
OP Dougpol1 24 | 1,895    
4 Mar 2018  #60
How came this shop was named Zabka?

Ther's a Biedronka in Grantham Ironside. Didn't they ask your permission? In the meantime, it is no surprise whenever there is a bus crash or gas explosion in the UK, that we might think of Poles as being culpable, simply because they are relatively prolific unfortunately at causing both,




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