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100 days of Komorowski presidency


delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
17 Nov 2010 #31
I'm waiting for all the reforms that should be on their way.

The reforms can't happen yet, PO are going to really hurt a lot of people in the short term - and this would cost them the election if they were to enact them now. But really, I'm not sure why they didn't just call snap elections to coincide with the local elections.
frd 7 | 1,399
17 Nov 2010 #32
The reforms can't happen yet, PO are going to really hurt a lot of people in the short term -

Yeah I know but something IS beginning to move with KRUS and early retirements for public service officers (służby mundurowe?) which are imho 2 very important matters. KRUS has always been a hot potato for every gov, amusingly it is supposedly against constitution and was brought to light by a PIS guy some time ago, and now PO will have to do something about it...
gumishu 13 | 6,138
17 Nov 2010 #33
This stagnation is still better than what it could have been under pis..

based on what?

under the circumstances he inherited after LK

could you possibly describe these ominous circumstances ? or is it just going 'truth' among your family
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
17 Nov 2010 #34
based on what?

Based on laws passed and proposed laws by the PiS government.

could you possibly describe these ominous circumstances ?

Shall we start with the vetoing of professors?
kondzior 11 | 1,046
17 Nov 2010 #35
No "reforms", please. No more reforms... I am happy with "stagnation". Everything is better then yet another reforms. Reforms are killing us.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
17 Nov 2010 #36
What, you don't want KRUS abolished, early retirement scrapped for most (undeserving) people, ZUS reform, pension reform, education reform (including tuition fees to discourage people from taking pointless courses) and so on?
kondzior 11 | 1,046
17 Nov 2010 #37
No Delph, I don't want these things. I can live with what we have now (or live around it, anyway)
Let the government stop plying with things they don't really understand. I don't remmember any sigle "reform" that did turned things for the better. And I don't expect to see it, in my lifetime.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
17 Nov 2010 #38
No Delph, I don't want these things. I can live with what we have now (or live around it, anyway)

Poland can't really live with it though - KRUS is like a massive knot around the Government's neck, ZUS has a huge black hole that needs filling and the country can't keep on going paying forever.
kondzior 11 | 1,046
17 Nov 2010 #39
I can agree, but do you really believe that government is physically able to improve anything? Even if they magically managed to stop caring about theirs own purses and had genuinely tried to improve things just a bit (what a ridicules assumption)?

No Delph, any action our polititians are going to take is going to be along the lines of rising taxes and making our lives even more difficult. And when we'll be able to lern how to go around briliant "reforms" of theirs, the new ones will be in place.

The best thing one can expect from a government is the stagnation. If a polititian could assure me that he is going to do squat, to just sit and look important, he'll got my vote for ever and ever. The perfect official.
gumishu 13 | 6,138
17 Nov 2010 #40
The best thing one can expect from a government is the stagnation. If a polititian could assure me that he is going to do squat, to just sit and look important, he'll got my vote for ever and ever. The perfect official.

well then there should be no public education pal - cause once there wasn't and somebody who must have been a politician has come up with that idea - there shouldn't be social security and so on - the best a government can do is to change nothing is a thought of someone who does not have ideals I would guess
mafketis 37 | 10,906
17 Nov 2010 #41
Government, as the man once said, is like fire - a dangerous servant and a terrible master.

The best that government can do generally is not f*ck things up for people too badly. That said, it's also the only realistic provider for certain services that modern civil societies need and that markets and families or individuals can't provide.

But whatever their faults (and they've got lots of them). I do think Tusk and company aren't dumb and learned that the Polish public likes government most when it does the least. Most of the Polish public is like kondzior - they'd rather work around dysfunction than deal with it directly.


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