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Chairman Kaczyński said..... / Opinions and ideas uttered by the leader of the PIS


delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
7 Oct 2010 #61
Opposition leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski has accused President Bronislaw Komorowski of being an enemy of the Roman Catholic church in Poland, in a row over alleged church property restitution bribes and malpractice.

The highly amusing thing here is that the whole thing is an SLD initiative and nothing to do with PO at all. Bearing in mind that Komorowski is married, has several children, has great personal relations with at least one bishop and is generally the definition of "Catholic" - Kaczynski is just making himself look more and more stupid as time goes on.

I'm now fully convinced that PiS are letting him behave this way because they know his political career is nearly over.
Ironside 48 | 9,900
7 Oct 2010 #62
Opposition leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski has accused President Bronislaw Komorowski of being an enemy of the Roman Catholic church in Poland

well, does he lies ?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
7 Oct 2010 #63
Generally the definition of Catholic, delph??? What on Earth does that mean? Do you mean that the sociological concept of the nuclear family is a precept of Catholicism?? The Bloods and the Crips from LA are good friends now but look what they did to each other before.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
7 Oct 2010 #64
well, does he lies ?

Yes, he does. And not only that - he also falsely accuses - the sin he is going to pay for by burning in Hell!!!!
Ironside 48 | 9,900
7 Oct 2010 #65
Yes, he does

well, it's debatable !

he also falsely accuses

maybe or then maybe not!

the sin he is going to pay for by burning in Hell!!!!

Well, who will burn in hell ? Do you have any tips on that ?
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
7 Oct 2010 #66
Well, who will burn in hell ? Do you have any tips on that ?

Everybody who breaks the 9 commandment:

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor
Olaf 6 | 956
19 Oct 2010 #67
A 62 year old madman has just attacked PiS office in Lodz. Killed one delegate and severely wounded his assistant.
alexw68
19 Oct 2010 #68
And, of course, JK hasn't wasted any time in demeaning his own reputation and the memory of the person killed:

From today, the responsibility for the safety of all offices shall be borne by the PiS government - Jaroslaw Kaczynski said at a special press conference on the shooting in the Lodz office PiS . As a result of the incident , one person died , the other fighting for his life in hospital.
pgtx 29 | 3,159
19 Oct 2010 #69
so what has happened today in the Lodz PiS office?

what a mess! :)
Harry
19 Oct 2010 #70
And, of course, JK hasn't wasted any time in demeaning his own reputation and the memory of the person killed:

The bloke really is a complete and utter cock.
convex 20 | 3,978
19 Oct 2010 #71
And, of course, JK hasn't wasted any time in demeaning his own reputation and the memory of the person killed:

Sick, sick, sick man.

"To zamach, oni stracili życie za mnie"

Who the hell says something like that!
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
19 Oct 2010 #72
Who the hell says something like that!

I think this is even more shocking than the act itself - it just shows he well and truly believes that he's the 2nd coming or some such.
mafketis 21 | 7,463
19 Oct 2010 #73
He's already all but openly accused Tusk and Komorowski of causing the plane crash in Smolensk. He's quite clearly and obviously been seriously unhinged since losing his brother.

Part of me feels for the guy and the load of grief he must be feeling. But his public rhetoric barely sounds sane anymore and he's becoming more and more a destructive force instead of effective opposition.

It's time the younger, saner members of PiS sent him out to pasture.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
19 Oct 2010 #74
At a press conference soon after the attack, Law and Justice leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski blamed a hate campaign by the government and media against his party.

“The attack results from a hatred campaign which was launched against the Law and Justice party,” said Jaroslaw Kaczynski.

pgtx 29 | 3,159
19 Oct 2010 #75
“The attack results from a hatred campaign which was launched against the Law and Justice party,” said Jaroslaw Kaczynski.

oh yeah... he's such a crap stirrer...
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
19 Oct 2010 #76
At a press conference soon after the attack, Law and Justice leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski blamed a hate campaign by the government and media against his party.

The worst thing is that he didn't mention the victims names once.

Just proves that he is completely and utterly obsessed with Tusk.

But his public rhetoric barely sounds sane anymore and he's becoming more and more a destructive force instead of effective opposition.

Indeed. All this is going to do is create even more paranoia in his mind - I suspect we'll see even more crazy conferences where he rants about Tusk now. If Smolensk didn't convince him that it's a conspiracy, this surely will!

It's time the younger, saner members of PiS sent him out to pasture.

From what I gather, they'll be sitting there, sharpening their knives - and after another defeat in the 2011 elections, he'll be "retired" from PiS.
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
19 Oct 2010 #77
Indeed. All this is going to do is create even more paranoia in his mind - I suspect we'll see even more crazy conferences where he rants about Tusk now. If Smolensk didn't convince him that it's a conspiracy, this surely will!

In a fair totalitarian country, e..g, the Soviet Union of 1980s, the man would be isolated in a mental institution for a few years.

In an unfair totalitarian country, e.g., Romania of 1980s, he would be put in prison and secretly exposed to heavy dose of atomic radiation, causing death after a few months.

In a democratic country like Poland of 2010, we have to put up with Kaczyński and his followers.

Elections are the only way to eliminate him and his kin from political life.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
19 Oct 2010 #78
Elections are the only way to eliminate him and his kin from political life.

And this is what will happen. He can't survive another defeat in 2011 - and given that there's no way the SLD, PO or Palikot's party will cooperate with PiS, they're going to need to take, as a minimum, 40% of the vote. And that's not going to happen with his current rhetoric.

I suspect Tusk must be laughing himself silly tonight - Kaczynski has just hurt himself even further with his comments today.
Ironside 48 | 9,900
19 Oct 2010 #79
eliminate him and his kin from political life.

Reply Quo

eliminate yourself, why do you pick on kacznski ?never on PO, it make you a party supporter or moron
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
19 Oct 2010 #80
Because Kaczynski is a blithering idiot who only exists to destroy not only his own party, but also the RCC in the process. Plenty of people are sick to death of him trying to use the Church for political purposes - and even the ones who like the policies of PiS won't vote for them as long as Kaczynski is in charge.

Can't you see that while the PiS policies are very electable in Poland, no-one is going to vote for a maniac like Kaczynski?
OP pawian 161 | 9,971
19 Oct 2010 #81
eliminate yourself, why do you pick on kacznski ?

Because I consider him one of the most harmful politicians in the modern history of Poland.

It was already said here and there many times: he is even ready to provoke a civil war to get power in Poland.

never on PO, it make you a party supporter or moron

Yes, I can admit, I support PO because, compared to Kaczynski, they sound like sane, reasonable, predictable guys.
I am like most decent people: I try to stay aways from maniacs.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
19 Oct 2010 #82
It was already said here and there many times: he is even ready to provoke a civil war to get power in Poland.

The problem is that while he might want to fight a war, his supporters aren't willing - and even a sizeable percentage of his support comes from people who dislike PO - but who wouldn't be willing to "fight" anyone for power.

I doubt anyone is particularly worried about a bunch of senile old people starting a war - though I do fear that we'll see one of them "avenge" the recent murder :(
Ironside 48 | 9,900
19 Oct 2010 #83
for a maniac like Kaczynski?

What make him the maniac ?

Because Kaczynski is a blithering idiot who only exists to destroy

I understand that others exists to build, what are they building?

Plenty of people are sick to death of him trying to use the Church for political purposes - and even the ones who like the policies of PiS won't vote for them as long as Kaczynski is in charge.

I think that it's a wishful thinking !

he is even ready to provoke a civil war to get power in Poland.

civil war ? what are you talking about?

Because I consider him one of the most harmful politicians in the modern history of Poland.

Really, And what tell you that he is most harmful, hunch or TV ?What about others, he is in opposition I think is telling that the ruling party's policy and everything they do is focused on Kaczynski! I think is sick and makes PO incompetent and lying fucks with nothing to offer except few slogans.

I support PO because,

You support PO but not as a voter, more like a party member - admit it, don't be shy!

they sound like sane,

they sound like crooks to me !

I try to stay aways from maniacs.

closing your eyes on reality ?

I doubt a

slogans slogans slogans and a fool who believes in them yawn !

civil war

traitors should be eliminated...................
jwojcie 2 | 763
19 Oct 2010 #84
I would like to faintly point out, that the killer was supposedly shouting that he hates PIS. He haven't got a shield with other party emblem, not PO, SLD or PSL sign on a T-shirt. Swift accusaction of PO by Kaczynski an hour after this incident was highly inapriopriate.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
20 Oct 2010 #85
What make him the maniac ?

A member of his party has just been murdered, and yet all he can do is blame Tusk? He didn't even mention the dead person by name! I'd say that using a freshly murdered person to score political points is about as maniacal as it gets.

I understand that others exists to build, what are they building?

A modern European democracy.

I think that it's a wishful thinking !

We'll see how long Kaczynski lasts after yet another devastating defeat. His political career is on the ropes already, and there are plenty of savvy people within PiS who only toe the line for the sake of their political career. Another defeat and he'll be finished.

slogans slogans slogans and a fool who believes in them yawn !

But I'm not a PO voter nor member. I mean, you can't really insult me by saying "PO VOTER TUSK TUSK KOMOROWSKI CHURCH PO PO TUSK SMOLENSK PO PO CHURCH".
Ironside 48 | 9,900
20 Oct 2010 #86
But I'm not a PO voter

no but you have all the slogans ready and you shoot them like a tom-tom !

We'll see

thats all what can be said on the subject !

A modern European democracy.

yuck !

yet all he can do is blame Tusk

and Tusk blame him ......is that a secret of their .....dispute .....one is fueling support of the other?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
20 Oct 2010 #87
no but you have all the slogans ready and you shoot them like a tom-tom !

What slogans? I wasn't aware that PO had any.

yuck !

Ah, all is clear! You're just another one of those who wants to be ruled with a firm hand again - I forgot that quite a few Poles secretly would like Communism to come back, because they'd have a flat, a job and a rubbish foreign holiday to Bulgaria!

and Tusk blame him ......is that a secret of their .....dispute .....one is fueling support of the other?

Tusk is mainly ignoring him, except for the occasional insult to keep him wound up. Kaczynski's greatest mistake has been to try and fight Tusk rather than trying to win the minds of voters. I'd say though, that Kaczynski has walked into almost every trap set for him politically.
Ironside 48 | 9,900
20 Oct 2010 #88
What slogans?

read your own posts !

Ah, all is clear

eureka!

You're just another one of those who wants to be ruled

nay, I'm lusting for power !

Tusk is mainly ignoring him, except for the occasional insult to keep him wound up. Kaczynski's greatest mistake has been to try and fight Tusk rather than trying to win the minds of voters. I'd say though, that Kaczynski has walked into almost every trap set for him politically.

tap tap who is there ?trap .....who cares ? point is what they are standing for.......for me Tusk and his luggage is worst than Kaczynski ,,,one step by step !39 steps!:)
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
20 Oct 2010 #89
point is what they are standing for

But what is Kaczynski actually standing for these days, except revenge? He seems completely obsessed with Tusk and Komorowski to the point of insanity - and he doesn't even really seem to reflect the general PiS voter base either.

When was the last time he gave a speech with sound policy ideas?
Ironside 48 | 9,900
20 Oct 2010 #90
except revenge?

revenge tastes better served cold and remember remember the ...........................!


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