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Simon Mol - would he have been so "successful" in other countries than Poland?


aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444
12 Apr 2011 #31
It has to do with culture too

so what are you saying? That it it in Polish culture to be a prostitute? You have to do better then that southern.

As Midas pointed out women from other cultures do not get engaged in such activities despite being poorer.

I am sure he did, but some do and some don't. It depends on the religion as well, so I cannot imagine many Arabic women being prostitutes considering the punishment and the general status of women in those countries.

However, if one looks at facts, poverty and illegality of prostitution in a given country is a common denominator.

Even wealthy women choose the easy road to success.

Please give me an example or statistics of Polish wealthy women choosing prostitution, or stop generalizing:)
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
12 Apr 2011 #32
SOME PEOPLE here are coloring all men either as pervert or as opposing the respect of women.

I would like to enlighten them that in their efforts, they themselves degrade women. No matter of which culture, country or ethnicity ... women have to be given equal respect and benefit of doubt to their own self will.

Yes there are the slutty women, and so are there slutty men. But if someone opens the eyes, then will be able to see that there are dignified and patient women just as there are MEN! Can wait for that special person STILL, and there is no shame of incapability in it. It is a personal choice, a mark of values.

Whether it be Eastern women or Western women ... it is their choice. Yes some cultures are repressive, but I do not think that a certain class of women can really ever get repressed. Yes, the poor in any land are always going to be victims of every form of repression... but I don't think the same is applicable to the rich.

In any ways, Europe is a much different society, and here comes many women and men from East. They carry their culture SOMETIMES and I respect that. Why not? ... but I respect more when they integrate, and they should ofcourse integrate with respectful people with values. THERE ARE MANY SUCH RESPECTFUL MEN AND WOMEN WITH VALUES IN EUROPE.

I resist the concept that NO ONE IN EUROPE OR POLAND have the high moral standards. We do have, and we just don't come to the streets with it. Yes, we should make ourselves known, but I guess it will happen gradually when we MUST to resist the labeling of our whole society and all subcultures by disrespectful perverts to be a social catastrophe, a brothel ... DISGUSTING!

I resent... Midas and his likes! All the people in this thread, I wonder how many were Polish entirely. Well I was asked by this person, and I have replied! ... JUST WATCH HOW HE ANSWERS ... he will evade major points and distort my response to make it look something different. He always does that.

I have no interest to enforce anymore to anyone. WHOEVER HAVE EYES AND ANY INTELLIGENCE, READ WHAT I WROTE AND CONSIDER IT ... YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE NO MEN AND WOMEN IN POLAND WHO HAVE DIGNITY AND WHO STILL WAIT FOR THEIR RIGHT ONE...OR WHO DO NOT LIVE ONLY FOR MONEY? OR WHO HAVE A BETTER SOUL?

If you think that ... please do not consider yourself as a FRIEND OF POLAND ... but rather a stray rock ... nothing else.
southern 75 | 7,096
12 Apr 2011 #33
First of all I am not talking only of prositution.I refer to sponsoring,visiting and other activities.Second I refered to all slavic countries not just Poland.What I wrote is that society in these countries is not strict towards women who choose this path they don't get criticised ostracized or whatever.In fact I was often told that sponsoring is considered normal at least in Ukraine.Girls whose friends become prostitutes continue to be friends with them they don't avoid them.Girls who get sponsored bring their relatives to sponsoring as well.

In general I don't view the situation negatively unless it involves third worldlers.I mean it should just stay in the context of pleasure for the white man.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
12 Apr 2011 #34
I am not talking only of prositution.I refer to sponsoring

There's a difference?
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444
12 Apr 2011 #35
no, there isn't really.

Years ago I read an article about Polish women in Poland who were prostituting themselves (had sponsors) in order to make more money.Some partners of these women were aware of that. It was pure economics, therefore poverty.
southern 75 | 7,096
12 Apr 2011 #36
Sponsoring is very very common.It is extremely common it is regarded normal female behaviour.

All the people in this thread, I wonder how many were Polish entirely

Polish men write even worse about polish women if you read forums in polish.In fact they are more enraged because it affects their image as nation.Foreigners usually complain about the same thing for different reasons.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
12 Apr 2011 #37
Sponsoring is very very common.It is extremely common it is regarded normal female behaviour.

Not where I come from.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
12 Apr 2011 #38
Polish men write even worse about polish women if you read forums in polish.In fact they are more enraged because it affects their image as nation.Foreigners usually complain about the same thing for different reasons.

I read everything in here. I can tell you that you have least idea about Polish men and Polish women. I need to reassert here that people who are disrespectful will always be obsessed with the gloomy part of life, and those who write in Polish are not necessarily Polish.

I need to confirm that this site is nothing more than a good opportunity to write in English, and to thus sharpen the communication ... and that too in Polish context.

This thread is a nonsense.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444
12 Apr 2011 #39
Not where I come from.

neither in Poland. southern obviously has the wrong info or interracts with women who are interested in such an arrangement, which probably everyone knows by now. Just because it happens doens't mean it is a trend, or a large scale accurence.

This thread is a nonsense.

of course it is since Simon Mol is an old news (dead) and I hope that since then Polish women are more sexually safe and aware, but there is no sense denying that such things don't exist. My student is a sex educator and she tells me first hand what most people don't know, including you:)
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
12 Apr 2011 #40
including you:)

You are confident in knowing things from a "sex educator" who happens to be your student. Being all knowing in sex is not often the correct assumption.

For me, sex is empty without love, and love is empty without a promise ... and the promise comes empty without a sense of responsibility between partners. If this means I lack the knowledge how other mechanisms work, I must say that the very fact that I know that other mechanisms exist is a knowledge but which I do not want to expand or dwell in. It is not my business of obsession or of any interest to me. However, to color the whole nation or humanity in a single framework or to replace emotions with scientific logic will obviously resented.

People should stick to being respectful of others, and thus sometimes the proper use of languages will always be important. So that each sub culture can enjoy its lifestyle and image ... it is always healthy to do so. Ofcourse everyone is free, and this freedom should be respected on every level.
sascha 1 | 826
12 Apr 2011 #41
This thread is a nonsense.

Why are you here then? :)
FlaglessPole 4 | 669
12 Apr 2011 #42
For me, sex is empty without love, and love is empty without a promise ... and the promise comes empty without a sense of responsibility between partners

LOL then you should try sex on Extasy
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
12 Apr 2011 #43
Why are you here then? :)

Read the bottom sentence of the Topic Poster.
sascha 1 | 826
12 Apr 2011 #44
'Official invitation'? Nice. He's really kind to you. :)
southern 75 | 7,096
12 Apr 2011 #45
sex educator"

sex is empty

Failed education.

those who write in Polish are not necessarily Polish.

For what should sb start writing in polish without being a Pole?Do you write albanian?Do I write in turkish?Why should I without a reason?

The evidence is around there just take a look and open your eyes.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444
12 Apr 2011 #46
You are confident in knowing things from a "sex educator" who happens to be your student.

well, she used to work with sex workers - aka prostitutes, HIV, drug users and other people like that, so answer your question: yes I am sure what she is telling me. I also have a degree in women and gender studies and sociology, so those topics are known to me.

Being all knowing in sex is not often the correct assumption.

as I said - that was her work and she had to deal with such people - it was the government work and the Polish government department, so the Polish government is also aware of different sexual behaviours and the risks involved - this is assume all over Poland.

For me, sex is empty without love, and love is empty without a promise.

sure and that is your choice or a sexual make up, however there are different tastes and different approaches/experiences such as this one:)

LOL then you should try sex on Extasy

then he will never go back, since the sensation is a very different and if off it, once will be bored with regular sex. However, he is happy without extasy and that is OK too IMO.

The evidence is around there just take a look and open your eyes.

hardly agree with southern, but this time I will
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
12 Apr 2011 #47
He's really kind to you. :)

What do you mean?

I don't shy away when I have something in reply. He is a person devoid of logic and reason. She only twists and distorts words. I have given him a reply ... after that its just the way threads in PF run... drifting... lol

Why should I without a reason?

Because some people like my language ... think that they can try their luck with a Polish girl. Maybe having an illusion with model pics and hollywood! ... so many factors.

The evidence is around there just take a look and open your eyes.

No sir, I am not interested to go brothels with my "open eyes".

aka prostitutes

I never denied there are many of then in Poland ... and even more in Ukraine :). Sometimes I wonder why the Ukrainians don't stay in their country? ... But then I guess I must continue to feel they have a decent right as human beings to select a home anywhere :) ... but I hope they show respect to their new home :).

I also have a degree in women and gender studies and sociology

A piece of paper is not the story of man!

that was her work and she had to deal with such people

Again ... what do you mean by "such people"? ... All Poles are prostitutes you mean? :) ... you are a paranoid person. THIS THREAD SCREAMS AT POLES IN GENERAL, AND THE AUTHOR IS A PARANOID INCITER AGAINST POLISH WOMEN AGGREGATE!!.

however there are different tastes and different approaches/experiences such as this one:)

I have mentioned ... all are free... and should respect each other's freedom ... also, cannot harm the atmosphere of the overall society in which all sub cultures must be allowed to live in a healthy way.

then he will never go back

Your perception about men are distorted ... I must say that, perhaps more after you returned from your CANADA...

I am happily married and content to the core. My family life is pleasant ... I am thankful to the superior power. I have decent business going on and I have ample opportunity to have a constructive life. All these favors I am grateful for, and I try to give back to community time to time.

Anyways ... don't assume too much on me. Spare me your so-called intellectual skills.

but this time I will

These days you agree with him a lot. Congratulations! :)
OP Midas 1 | 571
12 Apr 2011 #48
Sorry guys, I'm really awful busy nowadays and I'll reply to Your comments once I get a bit of free time...

But since some of You want to know - This topic was started partially because I find the question presented here interesting and partially because our resident knight-crusader for the good name and virtue of all Polish women - Lodz_the_Boat - made some personal comments that weren't to my liking. I think that Mr. Mol's example clearly shows some of the issues a certain percentage of Polish women have, hence I started the topic.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
12 Apr 2011 #49
I've been struggling to remain to my "polite" limits with you ... but I find myself successful.
southern 75 | 7,096
12 Apr 2011 #50
then you should try sex on Extasy
then he will never go back, since the sensation is a very different and if off it, once will be bored with regular sex.

Naughty Ukrainka.Now we know your button.

Lodz_the_Boat - made some personal comments that weren't to my liking. I think that Mr. Mol's example clearly shows

Lodz vs Mr. Mol.This is not a simple clash.This is the clash of titans.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444
12 Apr 2011 #51
Now we know your button.

not my button, sorry to disappoint you:). Please stop associating nationality with sexual preferences- you are so wrong. I read a lot and I have some friends who used Extasy and other enhancing drugs, but I mainly get my knowledge from available literature.It is not a rocket science to find out how chemical substances enhance sexual sensation;)
OP Midas 1 | 571
12 Apr 2011 #52
I've been struggling to remain to my "polite" limits with you ... but I find myself successful.

Since just the other day you called me scum and told me to go and die I don't think I'd like to see You operating outside Your "polite limits", sir, since we'd probably have to get the Police involved :-)
southern 75 | 7,096
12 Apr 2011 #53
I read a lot and I have some friends who used Extasy and other enhancing drugs,

Yes,some use it on their clits.However I stay away.I regard Balkan power as the most powerful stimulus.
jarnowa 4 | 499
12 Apr 2011 #54
Difficullt question.

In Western Europe talking negatively about blacks is much more seen as racism, so the average white woman in Western countries will hear almost no negative feedback from family or friends if she's dating a negro or mulatto, no matter how unattractive the guy is. And in Western Europe most Caucasian guys are brainwashed to think that it is acceptable and even normal that African guys steal their women, so nobody to stop them.

So i wouldn't be suprised at all if Western Europe would also have rats like Simon Mol messing around with many white women.
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
12 Apr 2011 #55
talking negatively about blacks is much more seen as racism

Maybe there's a good reason for that.

it is acceptable and even normal that African guys steal their women

You are a bore. And an unhealthy one too.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
12 Apr 2011 #56
Simon Moll is dead and he can't go to other countries to seduce women. This thread asks for the truth about a counterfactual and is thus an exercise in futility that reveals nothing more than its posters' prejudices regarding women of various nationalities.
jarnowa 4 | 499
12 Apr 2011 #57
Maybe there's a good reason for that.

If a hot white woman is dating an unattractive white guy and i say that he is too ugly for her, it is called "freedom of opinion".

If she's dating a negro and i say that he is too ugly for her, i will for sure get labeled a "racist" and if i write it down somewhere my comment is likely to be removed.

This all results in hot white women more likely to reject white guys.
You seriously don't see what's wrong with that?
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
12 Apr 2011 #58
If a hot white woman is dating an unattractive white guy and i say that he is too ugly for her, it is called "freedom of opinion".
If she's dating a negro and i say that he is too ugly for her, i will for sure get labeled a "racist"

Only in your skewed fantasies.

Women are capable of choosing who they want to be with. They aren't 'yours', or anybody elses. And BTW, the word "negro" is no longer used in English.
A J 4 | 1,088
12 Apr 2011 #59
Women are capable of choosing who they want to be with. They aren't 'yours', or anybody elses.

I thought I'd quote you so he can read it again. (I'm too lazy to tell him the same thing over and over again!)

;)
jarnowa 4 | 499
12 Apr 2011 #60
Women are capable of choosing who they want to be with. They aren't 'yours', or anybody elses. And BTW, the word "negro" is no longer used in English.

Negro is a perfectly normal English word. And it is better to use negro instead of black so as to distinguish black Africans from black Indians, Aboriginals, etc.

And why do you disagree with the observation in my previous post?
Tell me what's wrong with it? I bet you can't.

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