Good looking Polish women with ugly men

misspelling my fault

Btw why did Greeks often like to depict male-male intimate situations on vases? I always wonder how it fits your theory about Balkan power... ;D

Because Greeks considered male-male relationship as of much higher intellectual quality than the ordinary male-female relationship and that male-male love was much more pure and deeper.So Alkiviades for example was the most popular lover for women and lover of men.

wow, I see here new macho quality... ;D


or Alkibiades?

Yes,very famous marshalll and lover.He even seduced the wife of the king of Sparta who called her son Alkiviades among her friends.He also seduced hundreds of Athenian and Persian high society women won all battles but had a horrible death because Athens,Sparta and Persian Empire were betrayed by him in a row and wanted his head.


The Greeks believed in fact that each man needs at least three women.One for the housework,one for sex and one for intellectual conversations.The latter who offered sex and intellectual conversations were called etairas and some of them achieved great deal of power and became protectors and sponsors of poets,painters and other artists.

Well I'm better endowed that's for sure so I don't give a sh1te about my lack of a six pack or whatever.

Smart people ;)

I think they proved with even the earliest sculptures that sizes and proportions were extremely exaggerated. Which is why they made such a valuable contribution to art, because they demonstrated the first projections of how man ideolised the male form but in fact reflected quite impossible physiological dimensions.


And each man three hearts...?

Artistic license. Propaganda too... In later times such embellished statues served to project to the world an outsized image of their physical dominance and military might.

Ancient Greeks believed in harmony.They never built sth too big like Pyramids or anything disproportionate.They had human as measure of everything.Asian folks built huge monuments to express the power of the king and their Gods.

Asian mentality crashed greek one in the battles of Marathon and Salamina where the greek ideal of individuality and liberty defeated the asian despotism and saved Europe.

We're presently fighting a similar fight over here now. It wasn't looking too good the past couple years but recently pure American ideals are taking the fight to despot Obama and he's been knocked off his throne.


We do have Mt. Rushmore, but we don't worship it... And Poland now has the giant Jesus...


Heck, maybe not just in later times. Maybe in earlier times too... Those big heads in places like Easter Island may have served as an intimidating warning to potential approaching enemies...

This is probably the most sensible thing you've said. I'm impressed! ;)

That was deep and insightful

I suspect Southern's lady friend made this posting when he forgot to log out. There's no way this came from the same Southern who usually makes all those ultra sexist and shallow remarks. So who are we talking to today??

Here's are some typical Southern posts - you tell me if he even understands what the message above really means?

Not to mention a couple of young boys ... :-S


Even with regard to young boys ... :-S.

Bloody paedophiles!

Even the idea behind it is abhorrant: "Athenian pederasty entailed a formal bond between an adult man and an adolescent boy outside his immediate family, consisting of loving and often sexual relations. As an erotic and educational custom it was initially employed by the upper class as a means of teaching the young and conveying to them important cultural values, such as bravery and restraint."

Very human indeed.

.. seems like limey knows his way in those woods too :- \

I didn't know you are interested in ancient Greek culture.I feel both Greek and Balkan blood streaming in me so sometimes I am the one and sometimes the other.For sure there is sth from our ancient forefathers.

I wonder when you are which ... :-S

I don't know.They are both deep.Unfortunately my ancestors come from regions of Greece where people were slaves( to the Spartans and Macedonians) so no pureness here.Anyway I can understand much of ancient Greek language many words have still remained the same.The language of Evangelia is completely comprehensible.

Sometimes when these historians write is like describing modern Greeks some character traits have remained the same.We just moved more towards gypsiness and barbarosity it is the heavy influence of the Turk.

multiple personality?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_personality


who would thought that a Greek can say this...

Says who ? An English guy with his butt wider than his chest and rotten teeth, who think that showing his naked ass on Saturday evning is cool ? Maybe Polish men are not the most handsome in the world but English are the last one, who should comment on It.

I still don,t understand where this teeth thing came from....We English have lots of faults...but i don,t think bad teeth is one of them...?

Yeah man, that is grounds to get your ass kicked in most countries. I like to get drunk too but stripping off my pants with other dudes?? No sir.

You've been hanging around the wrong bars.


Some are.


There are more Poles in the UK than in Krakow, so perhaps we are the first who should comment.

Surely this must be a Turkish person....?

Lots of English lose their front teethes during drunk fights.

The States and possibly specifically California.

Nothing wrong with English or British teeth relatively speaking but to make it in "the entertainment business" many US wannabes will think nothing of fixing anything and everything that needs to be fixed - boobs, noses, teeth - whatever. The English (and most other people) don't bother and tend to stand out like a sore thumb in Hollywood.

Somewhat of a culture of braces in the states too.

Then Austin Powers didn't help either.

Sure, Brits stand out like a sore thumb over there...and win Oscars left and right...

Surely there is a moral there?

Don't fix up your teeth, exaggerate the accent and pomposity (thus ensuring a role as an international uber-terrorist, or at least some sort of creepy callous, but suave individual) and you're laughing, Oscar wise?

Most likely they "win" Oscars because Lib Hollywood wants to show the world how much they embrace fellow Lib foreigners.

Oscars are no longer "won" per se, nor are they earned; Oscars anymore are bestowed for social reasons.
Libs ruin everything with their politics.