Fell in love with a Polish girl, but find it difficult to approach her

and less chance of getting STD's.

if there was no sex would you stay in the relationship? you are paying for suppers and giving presents to girlfriend because in return you get sex.

Man and women are not that different. There are a lot of real predatorial females out there...

How romantic, witek. :)

Shewolf i am all about the romance

The biggest mistake is to assume that women are innocent and man are only after one thing… I have seen a lot of very hurt men who were dumped by women who where really fooling around with a lot of guys at the same time. It is not uncommon for good looking girls in their twenties… including polish girls!

Pro's cost less than girls.It is proven.However with pros there is no feeling,it is mechanical and leaves a bad psychological condition because the pro gets away.The girl stays.Only pros with very good sex and interpersonal skills can create a pleasure.

There are some girls who like to be pros.They can be rich girls but still like prostitution.
There are psychological reasons for that.Some russian women of the high society join troichkas in the night to have sex with everyone they are disgusted from in the morning.

Dear Ken Noddy
To get back on topic. What you need to do can be summarised in the Trident method which is a simple checklist to remember things if you are relatively new to these adventures with chatting up females. As the name indicates it consists of 3 parts. First say something to her that does not feel like a chat-up line. It needs to be a plausible reason to talk to her. Then continue the conversation with open ended questions so the conversation carries on. There try to find out more about her and her likes and dislikes and what her hobbies might be. Don’t try to make it all in the first meeting. After a couple of times invite her out with some coincidental activity that you are going to do that she might joint you with… all in a very disinterested way, as if chatting her up was the last thing in your mind… This is the general idea. But above all remember. Success with girls (specially if they are very good looking) is a numbers game. The success rate is far below 100% but if you approach a lot of women you will be surprised how the numbers build up nicely…

Thanks for all the good advice, its been an intense week, trying out new methods and learning so much. I guess its like using a muscle that you have not used for a while, the urge is to try do too much too soon. I am feeling alot more confident now and positive for the future. I can see that the odds are heavily against me suceeding on this particular occasion but the key is to keeping trying, to keep getting up again after been knocked down. This is what I've been avoiding in the past, I've had a fear of rejection. It feels weird as I don't think today went particularly well in relation to the girl I am interested in, its not just me being negative which I end to get sometimes but I just felt things weren't right. Sorry its hard to describe but its just a sort of gut instinct. I'm not backing out at all, I'm still going to give it my best shot, but it was probably a realisation that this may not work out. And I felt fine about it. In the past I've worried that 'this might be the one' and I'd become anxious not to mess things up in case I'd never have another opportunity. I've come round to the view that if she doesn't like me its no big deal, I'll just keep on looking for someone who does like me.

Lobo, thanks once again, I was just going back over all the advice you have provided me with. Its great stuff, you have a great pool of wisdom. What's your story?

Success rate with attractive polish girls is between 4-8%.Most attractive have already boyfriends.So you need to talk minimum to 20 polish ladies to get one girlfriend.

I disagree about open qs.I think better are closed qs.For example not what music do you like but do you like Madonna?Not what are your hobbys but do you like to dance?Do you like cooking?

Ken
It is a true fact that it is much easier to chat up (or talk to) a woman if you don't particularly fancy her. So try talking to that kind of girl and that will get you up to speed for when you really need to.

I am just a guy who used to be as shy as you but trained myself to be otherwise. Bit by bit... now I am not shy at all and not that bad with females. Still I get my failures like the next bloke. My friends would however say I was very successful.

Why do you think closed questioned are better suited?

Southern, 4-8% looks a tad low. Remember that all women are attached before they meet you. That is neither here nor there. The last polish girl I went out with broke with her previous lover(s) to go out with me... no judgement performed here.

Yeah, I have found that in the past. It's been frustrating and I've found myself wondering, 'why can't I act like that all the time'

I will make a conscious effort to talk to girls that I'm not that bothered about as a way of training myself to be more confident. I feel a wee bit uneasy about it though, as I fear I'll be giving them the wrong signals and may end up hurting their feelings.

Women have trouble talking to men they have feelings for, too. If a woman likes you, chances are she's just as nervous as you are. I once felt so nervous because a guy that I liked came up and talked to me that I started to feel lightheaded, like I was going to pass out.

Ken
Don'r worry about their feelings, worry about yourself. They can take care of themselves!

Yes, we all need practice with people.
I once had a friend who picked up fights in restaurants, etc just to get some practice for when it was really required. A bit excessive, but hey you get the point.

Closed qs are easier for a girl to answer,she does not need to think so much and also show that you have some general knowledge around,you are not completely ignorant.You should be a little familiar with social and political situation in Poland,know some polish singers,writers,poets,movie directors etc,be interested in the country.Eastern european women value culture.

I mean if you talk to 20 random polish girls 1 is likely to give you her phone number.Random,not known through other people.Rejection by polish girls is not harsh,they never swear or say bad words,they just do not talk or give one word answers and you understand they do not want you.If they want you,it is obvious.

They commonly have boyfriends who they leave,maybe they like playing with men as a polish girl told me once.

I hadn't considered that.

I would concur with that, they like playing! That my friend is both fantastic and devastating. You need a very thick skin because it can be a hell of a ride!

They play a lot.Burn the sensitive western hearts.

I would however not recommend that you try to impress a Polish girl with your knowledge of Poland. After all you can only look foolish as she knows a lot more than you. Impress her with your local knowledge instead as this can be more impressive, convincing a practical. It is also, or course your chance to take her somewhere she does not know!

On the other hand, she might like it and feel flattered because you're so interested in something that is so much a part of her.

Yes, western hearts are weaker... but men are suckers for a bit of a trashing by an amazingly looking girl.
It is not what happens but how it happens. If it happens with style than all is forgiven!
The most potent weapon in the world, with no known defense would be somebody with the body of a gorgeous young woman and the mind of an experienced man... It would be unstoppable as its target (other men who run the world) would be cut like a hot knife on butter!

Thats the thing, when I spoke to this girl today, she seemed totally unfazed by everything I said, totally confident and a bit cold. She didn't seem nervous at all and that is why I have the feeling that she is not keen on me.


By the same token then women must find it easier to talk with men they don't care for.

Yes, I agree a bit of knowledge of Poland can be a good conversation starter. But don't dwell on it for too long as you might spoil the effect...

Did she ever notice you before? The nervousness wouldn't come along until after she has met you and has decided she likes you. Sometimes that doesn't happen right away. As you said, women find it easier to talk to men they don't have feelings for but that changes when they do develop feelings.

It depends.if she comes from province Poland,like a small town she may like you know about Poland.If she comes from a big town she may find it a bit weird.Generally they like you know their country because other people do not take Poland seriously as a country.

I agree western men are suckers and have spoiled western women into feminism.To discover feminity sb has to travel to eastern Europe.
How does your girlfriend look?Typical polish,blond,175 cm or taller with gorgeous breast?
They are so many like this in Poland,I think many people are angry they were born in another country.

Ken, juat for my understanding of this. On a conventional good looks scale of 1 to 10 what number would you say she is?

I think they want to see a picture of her. :)

No, just a number...