SHE'S 25, HE'S 85 (Polish actor Andrzej Łapicki) -- ANY FUTURE?

I don't know these people, but I do know what's wrong with the picture.


How and where do you think she met this man? Tell me that and I'll answer your question.


The fact that there are plenty of handsome, nice looking, well-mannered, honest, decent, hard-working guys of her own age out there who have to remain single because it's fashionable for rich old men to buy themselves another working-class trophy. (Not speaking for myself there!) The fact that this man can't even make love to this girl without Viagra. The fact that this man might die tomorrow. The fact that this man can't expect to be there for this girl. The fact that this girl is still very young and needs to be active, she should socialize with guys and girls around her age, because it's natural and healthy to be active at the age of twenty five. This man can't be as active as a young man. Girls her age usually look for a healthy, strong man who can be expected to take care of things and look after her when she needs him to.


I'm sure you're clever enough to know that there's a world of difference between things you can, and can't expect? At the time she has met this old man, she could not have expected to live a life with him. The situations you describe are possibilities, but I'm talking about simple expectations. (Which are so totally ******* obvious if you'd ask me!)


No, because that's different. Anything could happen, and nothing is certain, we all know that. But you can't honestly tell me that this girl could've expected to be with this guy for a few years at the time she met him.


I'm not going to marry someone who could've been my grandmother for money anyway. Not even if she had millions.

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Exactly, Arien. Principles are principles and no amount of money would make me marry sb who is likely close to their death bed and old enough to be my grandma.

Please remind me the ethic of marriage, shush.

Well, not really, when they were going to marry they already knew she was dying of cancer.


He was her tutor at university.


It doesnt change the fact that if she loves him she would not want to be with anyone else regardless his age and position. I see your point but why it is always woman's fault? She may be genuinely in love with him, there are lots of cases when girls fall in love with their teachers, more if the girl had bad relationship with the father so why always it is woman who is bad and nasty, i just dont get it.


It would be funny if u met someone much older than u and fall in love with her lol Never say never :P I m not talking about marrying for money though.

Already knew she was dying? Even better, one step closer to their greedy objective.

Who is talking about the woman being at fault? If a man of 25 did the same then I'm sure Arien would speak out against it too. It just so happens that women tend to sniff around more for men with special paper ;0

Can you show me where it says that she is dying of cancer? And even if she is dying of cancer, there are many young guys who are dying of cancer aswell, and they're probably more attractive and active than this old man.


She would not have met this man while actively socializing with people around her age.


Oh really? Well, why is it that these old guys always are wealthy then? Why do I never see a young woman with an old guy who's poor?


Well, I'm glad you see my point. It's better than defending old men who use young girls, because if you thought it's only the girl I was having a dig at, then you're mistaken. Oh, and where did I say it's always the woman's fault?


Where did I say women are always bad and nasty?

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True. I don't mind being with a girl who's like ten years older, and I don't mind a guy being with a girl who's like ten years younger either, but a gap of sixty years is just taking the **** and you all know it.

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Excuse my Dutch.

I was not talking about the Lapicki's wife dying of cancer. It was my other example when i was sayin that sometimes people marry even if they know they wont be together for long. The argument that people should not be together if they know one of them will die soon is not convincing, thats all.


I dont know why - maybe one of reasons is that if you have money you can socialize and then u can meet more different people, even younger than urself?


You were not saying it's woman's fault but Seanus was, he even called her "dziwka".

Being rich doesn't mean you can buy reincarnation ;)

Shush, many Poles are sociable and they are either students or have very little money. That's not an excuse at all and you know it.

Good try, but I wasn't. Read above and you will see that I wasn't blaming just the woman. I called her 'dziwka' with two wink marks which meant I was joking.

I said "each to their own, but yes, dziwka". Each to their own means she is free to make that choice as it is legal and everyone is different. Arien had written dziwka above and we were both tongue-in-cheek.

You are clutching at straws, shush, Arien and I are not against the woman's right to do it, just to say that her motives are dubious and very few lower themselves in that way.

Yes but not everyone is that wise to fall in love only in suitable persons. I dont think he is that rich and marrying him she lost a lot - perhaps friends and family who now will think she is a dziwka. So altogether i think there had to be something more to that than just money.

But i find it sad that people always think a person is worthless if she or he did something different. That's all.

We didn't say she was worthless at all. Look at the thread, any future? What future do you see them as having, shush? Any kids? OK, that isn't her priority, fine. An experienced guy to discuss life with? That's great! :) A mortgage paid off? Oops, money again ;) ;)

Freedom of association is a major part of democracy and I'm all for it within reason. It is not our business to choose for others how they live their lives, provided that they stay within certain boundaries accepted by the majority.

Defending your position, maybe he is a Clint Eastwood or Sean Connery :) However, why risk falling ever deeper in love when he will likely die in the near future?

Then why bring it into this? It's like comparing apples with strawberries.


If they both had health problems I'd understand. If your partner suddenly fell ill I'd understand. If you're going to date an old man who could've been your grandfather, and he's wealthy aswell, I'm going to call you a dziwka. (Which doesn't mean I'm going to treat you as a horrible person mind you! Just calling a peach a peach here!)


My argument was that it is unnatural. Which it is. (I gave you a full explanation as to why it's unnatural, so be my guest to say that it's natural for twenty five year old girls to marry eighty five year old men who can't even be active anymore.)


I'm going to die next year. I'm poor aswell. Will you marry me? Anyone? No? Thanks for illustrating my point!

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You can meet and socialize with people without having much money aswell you know, especially when you're a student.

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Always!

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I never said she was worthless. (If you've read all my posts, you would've seen I've defended prostitutes very often!)

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Maybe his love really is blind when he takes off his glasses? Maybe she just thinks it's cute to change his diapers? Or maybe she thinks his dentures sound funny when he talks? Maybe she thinks it's cool to tell her friends that her boyfriend used to know famous actresses like Beata Tyszkiewicz? Alright, alright, I'll admit that's too far fetched! It must be his awesome, god-like sexdrive! Right?

Ehh you two having fun, thats nice but i still think there is not necesserily going something bad there. Maybe i m naive but i prefer to think about people in a good way.

Maybe she doesnt like sex that much but she does like intelligent people.

for me it's a kind of sexual deviation ;) or pragmacy? maybe she'll be in the will? who knows? ;)

Yes there is future: his money will become hers... just another usual polish woman golddigger... no surprise here

i say well done and to hell with what alicja says about it , hope he lives til hes 200 adrianl

Yes maybe. His intelligence, resume, experience, his knowledge. But of course money makes him even more attractive.
She must really like him, after all she spends her young years with him.

And not to forget, when he was young he was a very attractive man!

Every woman has nothing against intelligent, well-paid men ;-).
But for me only those who have worked hard for it. Somehow that makes them male. The pampered, wannabe sons with the legacy of their wealthy parents leaves me completely cold.

Incidentally, for 85 years he looks very fit and his mind seems to have not lost youthfulness.

But I also can't imagine to have a 85 years old husband, that's really pretty crazy. But if she is happy with it, everyone has to decide for himself.

As I said, she must be happy with it. No one forced her to marry him, everyone has to decide for himself.

The fact remains that she has free will to enter into that relationship. 85 is too old, but still....

still what?


Demi Moor is with Ashton Kutcher.

Its her choice. Not like she is being forced at gun-point.

WHAT???!!!! OMFG GROSS!!! Yes they have a future because nobody is going to want to marry her after they've known she's been with an 85 y/o man.

she is with him just for sex.

The question was posted on 21st of July 2009, exactly two years before his death.

Andrzej £apicki can well be a study in human adaptation, maleability and personal development. He started out as a lector for regimite newsreels which tried to brainwash Poles into believing thatt communism was good and those who opposed it were wrong if not downright criminal. But like much of the cultural community he joined a boycott of official communist culture after the martial-law crackdown of 1981 and later joined Wałęsa's Citizens Committee and was elected to the Sejm on the Solidarity ballot.

Incidentally, he was Daniel Olbrychski's father-in-law.