Do you think that Polish people are rude?

Take a seat / sit down - imperative in English as well. You can pair it with "please", both in English and Polish - "siadaj, proszę". We would use the infinitive if we wanted to sound rude in Polish - "Siadać!"

In Scotland, you shouldn't say 'take a seat' as you may quickly find yourself without any chairs ;) ;)

Joking aside, I completely agree with you, Magda. I only meant what I said in the sense of the function of the imperative but, as we both know, it doesn't paint the whole picture by a long stretch.

Rude? In sport, I see a lot of sportsmanship and apologies for fouling. Obviously, there are clowns who choose not to be so but I've had very positive experiences when it comes to fair play and decency when playing sport.

Sure, understood :-)
I just wanted to point out that there are a lot of "imperative-type requests", if you will, in English as well, but because it's your native language, it's "transparent" to you, while Polish sticks out like a sore thumb ;-)

Would it sound rude in English to say e.g.: "I'm so glad you're here! Come in quick, sit down and tell me all about your new boyfriend. Have some tea and cake - I baked it just for you!"

Hi Seanus. Nice to ''see'' you indeed... :)

No, I don't think Polish people are rude...

They may be ignorant of manners sometimes but that is something we can all be blamed for...

There are different ways to express courtesy.

I was thinking about this characteristic of English language. Compared to German who's cousin it is, it is less clear. But for me with basic education in Russian (later Spanish a bit too), English sometimes seems like encrypted. After understanding the meaning of the sentence, I need to perform another procedure, what did the author really want to say :)) (verbal abilities are not my strong side)

So, this could be an interesting question, why did English develop in that direction ? That had to have some purpose, maybe early development of parliamentary life? ( guessing..)

Or people get more easily insulted, something to do with the mentality?
:)

Well, English has steadily evolved on all fronts so it's hard to pinpoint any one factor as the main cause for its course. Some languages force you to guess the speaker from the context but English often requires you to guess the meaning from a general context.

Back to the issue of rudeness, some dislike the aloofness found in some individuals. However, people are complicated and their lack of engagement could be due to many things. We should always remember to be tolerant and think, at the end of the day, does it really matter? If they aren't harming us, so what?

English, perhaps due to the Danish and Norman conquests of England, has a larger vocabulary than most languages. An English writer, whose name escapes me, in order to demonstrate this linguistic abundance once described all the dishes offered at a huge banquet and then redescribed them all without repeating a single word. this plethora of words does indeed allow for alot of obfuscation.

I don’t find Poles rude, oftentimes they can be very courteous and gallant.
With Koreans and Russian however I sometimes find myself disrupting my blissful ignorance with ‘what a rude cvnt’ flare-ups. Then I just laugh really loud in a very rude and condescending manner….

Acknowledged :)

But it still doesn't explain the tendency for that excessive use if phrases, euphemisms from English native speakers....

Other languages also have lexical funds large enough to use synonyms, idioms and slightly alter the meanings, but still don't use that possibility that frequently.

Idea behind that manner of speech is different. Here it is disrespectful to talk like that to the interlocutor, it is usually interpreted as a way to mislead or deceive.

English, the idea is not to offend the person, as far as I understood the intention of that practice, right?

Yes I think that the frequent use of euphemisms ostensibly stems from the British aversion for confrontation. Although in many cases the English speaker doesn't really care if they offend but they keep to the practice because of cultural conditioning.


Indeed as E.M. Forster wrote "Suspicion is the sin of the East and Hypocrisy is the sin of the West."

Nice

I agree.When I use english I have difficulties expressing correctly what I want to say because the english language drives to indirect implications while I want to be direct.So I use more a kind of grecisized english I bend it to sound like greek.

With German on the other hand you are obliged to get into a frustrating combo of details because without them the sentence is sitting on the air as we say here.So again the imposed rationality gets me far from the Balkan roots but in the german case everything is so fixed that you can't really improvize.

As for the imperative it is not annoying because it used here as well with more heavy expressions like ''go on malakas,hit that souvlaki or ''go Lord to beach to hit some hot babes'' etc.

We all do it to some extent. It's like eating foreign food in that we all adjust it to our own palate. Language is elastic and we all use what we feel fits our purpose. Nothing rude in that :)

How do you think language came into being? was it a case of manifested grunts, groans and gestures which became words?

"Do you want" in a primal state would have been something like "oohhh ahh da di".

I think you know the answers without me having to enter into a treatise on it :)

Rudeness is a benchmark/yardstick issue :)

Indeed but i want your opinion, you are/were the language dude right?

WB, I don't go in for labels. There are those better qualified and those worse qualified than myself to comment. The question is one of rudeness. We have both experienced it here but have likely experienced it elsewhere too. If you know yourself and what you want to do then you can ignore most of the rudeness no problem. There's not much sense in consuming yourself with it. Far better emotions exist :) :)

It couldn't have been said better or more accurate than this :)
(I knew about the hypocrisy,I tried to avoid that label, but as it is usually the case, my people flaws were blurred for me :)))

Suspicion it is. (but justified naturally) ;)


Learning German was an act of violence for typically chaotic Slavic mind. Horror. How can I wait for the damn verb that comes at the end of the sentence, not having a clue what the speaker wants to say until he finishes it? It forces one to really listen :))

They have largely copied the ancient greek grammar and syntax but they omitted the grace.It is painful to learn while I learned ancient greek with joy.

The Germans have one specific word for every meaning.If you don't write this word you don't say anything.Contrary to that in english one word can have lots of meanings(for example run etc).And in german you have to put everything in the right order in terms of syntax and correct in terms of grammar so you need to apply rules and pay attention to detail.This attention to detail is what gives Germans an edge in mechanics and several other stuff sometimes you just want to express a general idea and it is impossible because you get challenged in details you have to describe everything analytically and in order too mind consuming and painful for the mediteranean.

I've noticed those problems with grace in various domains. It's irrelevant for them. It doesn't have a function.

Please get back to the topic of this thread

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Polish people are as rude/polite as any other nation out there. I think this thread is silly.

not enough

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I think Polish people are honest. If you're a clown, they will tell you're a clown.

So if I were a contortionist, would they tell me that..?

You'd be in too much pain to field questions?

Polish people are very rude. There is a polish boy in my school who does nothing but yell.

Does he usually do that when he sees your face?

Well if he has to be around 1st graders that dont know how to zip their pants I guess I would
be yellin too.

Actually no hes not really a first grader hes an 8th grader and hes, Rasict, Rude, and impolite to others and he has mentle problems like he want to kill others and other what nots....


Haha No he does not do that to my friend in class he just personally yells at others for no apperent reason lol.....

No he does it to everyone