Poles are not racist

We're not the same race If you didn't notice.


Not at all.

what does it mean?


is that because you are a doggie?

Really, you mean your not Polish?

I'm white.

Black woman.

Im slightly tanned but that may have something to do with spending time in the sun !

I am. You aren't.

Sorry Grzegorz, not used to the forum, this is my first go. But no, I'm not non-white.


Yeah, I'm slightly tanned too, nice to see you have a sense of humour. I assume you realise my mistake.

so whats offensive about that then

Direct translation of Murzyn (Negro) and Murzynka (Negress) have been the subject of discussion in Poland. There is an argument for finding new words due to the associations with slavery and an be viewed as derogatory.

I believe there is even an academic book been published in Poland on the historical usage of the words Murzyn/Murzynek and the need for finding alternative words.

Just found what I was talking about! Sorry, it isn't a book but a published academic paper called 'The History and Future of the word 'Murzyn in the Polish language'' by M. Lazinski. The Linguistics Guide, issue 4/2007 Warsaw Uni Press.

Nothing.

Was African slavery so widespread in Polish history? And if so, how many Polish speaking black people are these Polish phrases associated with slavery going to offend?

That's something I was gonna suggest myself.
By the time I left Poland at the in 1987 I saw in person maybe 5 person of African descend.

The word "murzyn" was taught to Polish kids in grade one in Elementarz

Murzynek Bambo w Afryce mieszka,
Czarną ma skórę ten nasz koleżka.
Uczy się pilnie przez całe ranki
Ze swej murzyńskiej pierwszej czytanki.
A gdy do domu ze szkoły wraca,
Psoci, figluje - to jego praca.
Aż mama krzyczy: "Bambo łobuzie!",
A Bambo czarną nadyma buzię.
Mama powiada: "Napij się mleka",
A on na drzewo mamie ucieka.
Mama powiada: "Chodź do kąpieli",
A on się boi, że się wybieli.
Lecz mama kocha swojego synka,
Bo dobry chłopiec z tego Murzynka.
Szkoda, że Bambo czarny wesoły,
Nie chodzi razem z nami do szkoły.

The lst two lines of this little poeam can be roughly translated as:
It's a pity that Bambo, black and cheerful
Doesn't attend school with us.

Murzyn is a normal word to describe a black person.

getting sentimental?
another one: Pawel i Gawel

Pink! Pink!

Nobody is white...

And very few people are black..

So remember in future..

Brown or Pink..


"teenagers"


Making a semantic/Freudian translation of Black to African is a fair indication of an internalised race based judgment/value system. Or just plain old stupidity..

You decide!

p.s. Pink people dont all come from one place, neither do "Africans"

Who are pink ppl? Do you mean Albinos?

Why bother when you can do it in London..

Thats what I find so funny about the situation. There are plenty of "yardies" in London who will only be too happy to 1. engage you and 2. show you the error of your ways.

Quite funny really, as we all know who will lose that one..

The 'Elementarz' going on about 'Bambo', is that word not now altered to 'Bambus' and used in a derogatory way in Poland?

I'd say I'm more peach/creamy coloured than anything.

White if I'm ill.

No. I mean most Europeans are either Pink, Grey or Brown.. The vast majority have a Pink/Grayish hue..

I think Pink sounds better than Grey.. What do you think?


Only the dead are truly near to white "pale".. *

Our fearless ex-leader is more Pink than White for example..

blog.kir.com/archives/images/Tony%20Blair.jpg

* here are two notable exceptions..

blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/marilyn_manson_154.jpg

Neither sound correct :/ I've never seen a pink person unless they're albino. The only grey person i've ever seen was an alien.


Ahh I see. You're looking at it this in the literal sense. What does this have to do with anything?

Of course we aren't literally white. Perhaps you're just trolling......

carry on

Not trolling..

Look at this for example..

img.radio.cz/pictures/networkeurope/060721-queen_elisabeth_IIl.jpg

"Our" great leader is not "white". Her dress is white.

The other funny thing that I like about the Poles on this board is the high level of sophistry.. Poles, on this board, dont like to lose an argument. They like to have the final word.

One can learn a lot online. Praise be to the Internet

You're not striking up a good arguement here. Of course nobody is pure white. What is your point with all of this. All you're doing is posting poics of people and commenting on their literal skin color.

Gotta go soon but here a quick explanation..

Black and White carry connotations which are quite distinct from their use as descriptive. With teh advance of science and the discovery of true "White" I personally feel that is is outmoded and scientifically inaccurate to label "Europeans" as "Whites"

I appreciate that it is difficult to ascribe an accurate colour to a range of people who possess a range of skin tones. But, given the ability that industrialization has afforded science, we should IMHO pick a descriptive colour which more accurately approximates that of the group being described. IMHO Pink is the best candidate.

The funny thing, which also demonstrates the power of colour semantics, is that I doubt "white" people would be too happy with the label "Pink". Do you? Imagine all those hundreds of years of marketing, bias and propaganda wasted.

Note I am taling about the colour label and NOT people.


Much as I luv this actor (dahlings..)

This man, sans tan, is Pink..

imdb.com/name/nm0929489

Murzynka means "black lady/woman". Negro would be "Czarnuch" and not "Murzyn".

Nothing wrong with "Negro"..

Did you meant to say "N*gger"? Or even "*****"??

I think if Maty wanted to say it he would've. It really does look like you're here to stir things up.

That's incorrect.
Any altering was not so recent. The word "bambo" and "bambus" have existed in parallel for decades, even when I was in grade 1. Kinda like niqqer and Niger/Nigeria

Not trying to..

I cant see though how the term "Negro" in itself could be considered offensive

But anyhow.. I dont speak a word of Polish so..