Poles - the Nation of Liars?

Nope. Avoiding your posts like a plague at first, and then quitting forum altogether because of people like you boring me to death and making it hostile environment.

She doesn't do that. Care to quite were she stated such statement.


No one? Maybe read the title of the thread fist.

I am agree with you

Where have I ever justified them?


How extremely nice of you to be so insultingly patronising to me and my countrymen.


Well, what is your lordship doing "sitting" in Poland then? You have no arguments whatsoever, so it seems the time has come to trot out the "you're not even in Poland" attack? And, pray, where in this thread have I spoken of my love for Poland or of being nationalistic? I thought we might have a nice chat, but I am very disappointed. You are unable to defend your viewpoint and refuse to see what I'm saying loud and clear.

Poles - the Nation of Liars?

A.K, the title does not read ONLY Poles are - the Nation of Liars. or Poles - the ONE AND ONLY Nation of Liars?

That obviously didnt work out to well then.

Nah, he has already established point of view and it doesn't really matter what you have to say. So you insisted on talking to the wall and then you are surprised that the wall is not listening.

Now you are twisting everyone's point and apply a new suitable for you interpetation because you can't give us an example when you were cheated by a Pole.

Magda is right - you're a never-wrong Wedle and now you've lost your grip.


wrong idiom. I meant you have been lost in your arguments

I could give you plenty, but im not going to, not today anyway.

You mean this:


It's called a "wishfull thinking". A person genuinly wants to believe that he/she will be on time/meet with the expectations/keep their side of bergain when in reality it's impossible. There are hardly bad intentions... maybe it's lying but rather a self-lying.

No, thats nothing.

Well this thread has been gathering steam again.


Simply that as well as having a selective memory you are something of a hyprocrite. Only a few days ago in a bizarre mini outburst you said to me:


I told you you remembered wrongly - but heard no more about it. What you said was simply untrue, a lie.

Yet lo and behold, here you are, the author of a thread about how Polish people lie.

Funny, that.

Well i dont exactly follow you and your threads around but that was my first memory of you posting on here, ok it wasnt food but it was virtually all negative. My (short) Polish expereinces - bad luck?


Oih i may be many things but a hypocrite is not one of them.


Judging by your thread after a few friggen days in Poland i dread to think what you might be capable of you actually lived there.

This has got to be the most ridiculous thread on this forum- no truth to it what so ever.

They built a palace called "the Sejm building" to commemorate this status quo.

Please stop your diatribe a.k, you just don't want to see another point of view, you are now hiding behind Magda's skirt. I have provided plenty of information from other qualified sources, that indicate Poland has a problem with corruption, lying and cheating.

Corruption: Dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.The action of making someone or something morally depraved or the state of being so

Lying: the deliberate act of deviating from the truth
Cheating: To act dishonestly

All three fall into the category of acting dishonestly, now if you prefer I will change my angle to, Dishonesty is rife in Poland.

Here is an example of a lie - Polish People are Idiots

The reason it is a lie.

IQ tests aren't perfect, but if independent IQ studies repeatedly determine that a country has one of the highest average intelligence quotients in Europe, and if you average a bunch of different national IQ tests together and that country does better than your own, it might be time to scale back all the submarine screen door jokes. Yes, Poland handed America its ass in the IQ department, and if Europe was a high school, Poland would be the resident nerd (which might explain why Germany and Russia made such a habit of taking her lunch money.

And I ask for the last time, because there is not much hope you will be able to answer: - what other country does not have the same problem? In other words, why are you so worked up over Poland as opposed to the rest of the world? It's like saying that some Polish women are prostitutes and you have a problem with that specifically. Of course some of them are. And so what? If you cannot stand the level of corruption in Poland, you can always leave, as you so very kindly suggested to me yourself, and be happier and contribute your hard work and taxes elsewhere.

Ok.


Nothing new in there. I've only asked you about your personal experience.

The problem is you foreigners like to point fingers on others when you are not really that better. An example is in the thread about that woman in the tram. Common stereotype says that Poles are racists... but just look on this thread, full of nasty remarks and sweeping generalizations towards miniorities by British people, who as a nation are world-widely recognised as very tolerant.


I'm sorry but I don't understand your sarcasm again.

Notice that I'm a foreigner for you and I don't know English to such an extend to understand your drift. Actually I have no idea what are you talking about in this extract so if you expect any reply please re-write it to a form which will be comprehensible to me.

Yep, it was negative alright. Only my impression after two visits - as I admitted. You will also notice that the tone of the thread wasn't exactly "hammering" anything. I was hoping my experience was down to bad luck/bad companions/whatever. I thought the thread was relatively diplomatic, considering. Apologetic even. A few well-known posters agreed with me too by the way. I notice you didn't have much in the way of contradiction yourself either.

Yet now you evidently have a problem with the thread - but yet see nothing wrong in starting a thread suggesting that Poles are a nation of liars.

Therefore, hyprocrisy on your part.

a.k, what is the use of me giving any examples, all you are going to say is you don't understand Poland or you are not Polish. Standard excuse remarks.


Magda the same countries that have been told by both the EU and worldbank to stamp out corruption.


We are debating Poland on this thread, if I started to bring up other countries I would be generalizing and non specific


I would consider a prostitute of any nationality to have a lack of moral fibre.


Corruption in Poland is an issue for the government to deal with, my only issue is people coming on this thread and trying to hoodwink us into the belief that dishonesty is not rife in Poland.

Well I for one keep saying that if you want to convince me that it's "rife", then, well, you need to actually convince me. I'm not taking your word for it, and from my experience it's far from "rife". All this time, I'm begging you to give me facts instead of glib reports and opinions based on basically nothing. Show me the evidence (i.e. so called hard facts) and I will see the light. Otherwise, stop with the generalisations already.

Magda, just place " corruption Poland" in your google search option, there will be a plethora of articles.reports and facts for you to read. Now enough already.

No I won't. I think no one would dare to argue with you if you were cheated by a Pole. Besides that I ask just out of curiousity.

What about Polish IQ text. I really don't understand it. Could you explain in more simple words what you meant?

Forget it. He was trying to be nice to Poles for a change and paddled back with some positive example.

But Wedle was caught in his own trap … again; these are the numbers for google results for <corruption some-country>, as he advised:
Poland 24,900,000
Britain 46,200,000
Italy 55,500,000
France 108,000,000
Noooooo… :-)
Magdalena, you cannot convince a man, who once created a thread "Does your Polish partner suffer from disposophobia" based on his own singular experience with his wife's packrat behaviour.

And you think you won anything? Check the title of this thread again. Yep, you are Polish: ergo --> you are lying.

I like this game :)

So do I, but it's time consuming.. :-)

Indeed, he was:
corruption Poland 24,900,000
corruption Great Britain - 203,000,000
corruption Italy - 69,400,000
corruption France - 124,000,000

My google is better than yours ;P ;)

Well, yours is Polish Google, so it must be biased. Mine is Canadian. :-)

Your method of using the google number does not stand up you may want t check this link
transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010/results
Canada comes in as the number 6 spot. wow

Backpedaling much? You are hysterical :)))