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The rising costs of food and fuel in Poland and the effects on disposable income/economy


poland_
17 Jan 2011 #31
It's per capita income that relates to this topic more than the list of most expensive cities. If people don't have enough income it doesn't matter how expensive the city is or isn't.

Why not just take the per capita income, adjusted by the CPI-U, then you would get the real per capita income, which you could then use to compute the percentage growth (or shrinkage) in real per capita from 2009 to 2010 .

Easier said than done.

Sometimes the obvious is the most difficult.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
17 Jan 2011 #32
then you would get the real per capita income,

A lot of times the real per capita income is lower. It's like that with unemployment. The figures in the media are conservative. In reality, the rate is higher.

If people are complaining about the price of gas that's all the evidence you need. If they aren't able to do what they need to because of it, that's even more.

People are generally willing to pay a fair price they can fit nicely into their budget.
poland_
17 Jan 2011 #33
People are generally willing to pay a fair price they can fit nicely into their budget.

Recent events in Algeria are proof of that.
OP milky 13 | 1,657
17 Jan 2011 #35
Sometimes the obvious is the most difficult.

Maybe people will be forced to live in those horrible blocks,due to something as simple as fuel prices..
poland_
17 Jan 2011 #36
It is always easier to go back to the place that you know...

Algeria's a different case...

A different case to what?
OP milky 13 | 1,657
17 Jan 2011 #37
It is always easier to go back to the place that you know...

you lost me there man..............?????????????????
Marek11111 9 | 816
17 Jan 2011 #38
the food prices around the world will go up it is good time to start a garden.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
17 Jan 2011 #39
A different case to what?

It's not the same as this circumstance...

Start a garden and learn how to can vegetables, Marek. It's worth considering.
OP milky 13 | 1,657
17 Jan 2011 #40
the food prices around the world will go up it is good time to start a garden

people with large garden usually live in the country side,so the petrol prices will cancel out the logic in this.
poland_
17 Jan 2011 #41
you lost me there man..............?????????????????

Most of the Poles came out of the post communist buildings, so at least they know what they would have to go back to, in worst case scenario.
Marek11111 9 | 816
17 Jan 2011 #42
everything is dependent on price of oil, all production will get more expensive all prices will go up
so even small garden like a tomato plant in a pot will help.
poland_
17 Jan 2011 #43
It's not the same as this circumstance...

That depends on if you class oil/petrol as staple or not...
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
17 Jan 2011 #44
It depends on other factors, like infrastructure. Petrol could very well be a staple in some areas. It definitely is where I live but the price keeps going up.
OP milky 13 | 1,657
17 Jan 2011 #45
True,but what about those tiny eastern farms, that are dying out rapidly due to the free-market(so called),and these people are from the country;travel will be an issue for them and their children.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
17 Jan 2011 #46
travel will be an issue for them and their children.

Not if you return to the days when people used horses for transportation. There's always bikes as well. One day, we might all be riding motor scooters that take less fuel.
Marek11111 9 | 816
17 Jan 2011 #47
driving car powered by compress air.
poland_
17 Jan 2011 #48
One day, we might all be riding motor scooters that take less fuel.

That could be closer than you think in some areas, a good friend of mine imports and distributes, fuel cell scooters in Spain and Portugal and the business is booming.
OP milky 13 | 1,657
17 Jan 2011 #49
40 km a day would be hard with a horse,and horse parking space and the sh1t all over the place and on your shoes..but it could be the solution..Maybe a 6 hour work day to deal with the delays due to a regressive yet progressive transport system.
valpomike 11 | 197
17 Jan 2011 #50
What is the price of petrol in Poland now? Here in the USA it is over three dollars and going to four soon, I am told.

Mike
Wroclaw Boy
17 Jan 2011 #51
It has gotten expensive lately, i think its around 4.85 PLN for a liter of 95, i know this because i looked at the price recently and i was a little surprised. Especially when one converts this to GBP its virtually the same as UK prices.

LPG is very common, i could have saved a small fortune had i known i would have driven 40,000 Miles in Poland.
poland_
17 Jan 2011 #52
LPG is very common, i could have saved a small fortune had i known i would have driven 40,000 Miles in Poland.

What's the cost of a conversion these days?
Wroclaw Boy
17 Jan 2011 #53
My brother in law paid 1800 PLN for a 1996 escort, not sure of the difference depending on car models. i have a friend actually who converted an old Bentley i'll ask him.
Wroclaw Boy
17 Jan 2011 #55
yeh 4.3 V8 Mercedes, i dont even what to think about how much i would have saved over 40,000 Miles. Problem is im always thinking i'll leave Poland and i dont want an LPG vehicle in the UK. Damn it.
peterweg 37 | 2,321
17 Jan 2011 #56
Unless you live in the Gulf, where a litre of water is much more expensive than a litre of petrol, Petrol prices are a global issue - not just Poland!

Is water cheaper than petrol in Poland? Not by much, surely. Milk is probably the same price.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
17 Jan 2011 #57
i dont even what to think about how much i would have saved over 40,000 Miles. Problem is im always thinking i'll leave Poland

Ha! I have the exact same issue.

I have to face it, for the foreseeable future I will be in Poland, at least until the world crises gets better.

Hmmm... will I convert to gas... I will give it some thought.
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
17 Jan 2011 #58
How! can Polish people afford to put petrol in their cars

What can I help it. I'm not going to bomb an Orlen head office ;)
If the fuel price goes up I ask more for my services.
guesswho 4 | 1,289
17 Jan 2011 #59
1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liters = $3.01 today where I live, how much is it in Poland right now?
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
17 Jan 2011 #60
4.85 PLN for a liter

is $1.66 per litre or $6.29 per US gallon

(1 Polish zloty = 0.343336 U.S. dollars)


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