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Rising cost of food across the globe. How much is a weekly shop in Poland now in 2013.


grubas 12 | 1,384
11 Mar 2013 #31
And salaries are low because Poland was always technologically lacking to the most advanced countries.

What does it have to do with anything you retard?Explain why a Polish dude working at FIAT assembly line in Bielsko Biala makes 1/3 of what Italian dude makes working at the exactly same FIAT assembly line in Torino?Or cashiers in supermarkets or even guys working with shovels.Do they have more technologically advanced shovels in the West? ******* retard.
Monitor 14 | 1,818
11 Mar 2013 #32
It's mostly ratio of technology density and wealth created in the past because of that. Now even if Poland gets to technological level of Italy, years must pass until people gather similar wealth, which would let to have same spending as Italians and because of that same salaries.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
11 Mar 2013 #33
Explain why a Polish dude working at FIAT assembly line in Bielsko Biala makes 1/3 of what Italian dude makes working at the exactly same FIAT assembly line in Torino?

Because the company is Italian... Polish "elites" after 1989 sold us the way Negro chiefs used to sell their own people to slave traders. It's nonsense that "capital does not have nationality". If a nation do not have any serious corporations, its role is to provide cheap labour. That's it.
grubas 12 | 1,384
11 Mar 2013 #34
Because the company is Italian... Polish "elites" after 1989 sold us the way Negro chiefs used to sell their own people to slave traders.

I know that,why do you think I ran away?We have been colonized and whole branches of industry destroyed.
pam
11 Mar 2013 #35
Well the vegetables are way over priced. 1 Avocado £1, small pack of blue berries £2,

I agree, fruit and veg in the big 4 supermarkets ( Tesco, Asda, Sainsburys, Morrisons ) is very expensive. Lidl and Aldi are cheaper.
Go to fruit and veg shops instead, much cheaper, and probably fresher too. Who knows how long fruit and veg is kept in cold storage in the supermarkets.

I would look at what you buy as well, £105 for staples? Seems a tad excessive to me.
Try butchers for meat as well, they often do better deals than the supermarkets these days.
milky 13 | 1,656
11 Mar 2013 #36
Because the company is Italian... Polish "elites" after 1989 sold us the way Negro chiefs used to sell their own people to slave traders. It's nonsense that "capital does not have nationality". If a nation do not have any serious corporations, its role is to provide cheap labour. That's it.

exactly
broga 1 | 5
11 Mar 2013 #37
we are shopping for two of us

a 3 bedroom house where i live costs around £1500 a month rent before bills

If you're going to live in one the most expensive parts of the UK, then having one or more spare bedrooms does seem like a bit of an extravagance does it not? Or perhaps you have lodgers, in which case your rent isn't really £1500.

1 Avocado £1, small pack of blue berries £2, chicken to roast £5, 4 btls badoit water £3.50

I don't think you can really count avocado, blueberries, and premium brand bottled water as staple foods. I'm all for being able to choose luxury products, I spend a large percentage of my income (in Poland) on things like wine, quality tea and coffee, but in the end that's all they are - luxuries which I could, and probably should, do without. I hate to think how much an avocado would cost in Poland.
OP Maybe 12 | 409
11 Mar 2013 #38
I remember 2 years ago our weekly shop in Poland never was more than 200zl/ £40 a week.
jump_bunny 5 | 237
11 Mar 2013 #39
I don't think I spend more than 150zł weekly on food for myself. Most of it includes vegetables and not too much meat though. I never really buy any soft drinks either as I drink only water.

A lot depends on where you go for shopping too. Piotr i Paweł as well as Alma are to be avoided if you don't want to pay too much whereas you'll spend less in Lidl and Biedronka. Tescos, Real and Carrefour are somewhere inbetween price-wise.
pip 10 | 1,658
11 Mar 2013 #40
right now blueberries and strawberries from Spain are 8 and 10 pln in the shops. The open air markets don't have them. Last week end I was at the farmers market and bought 3 leeks for 4 pln. In the shops they are way more than that. Apples are .99 per kilo in the market- in the shops I think they are at 1.99 a kilo.

If you shop the open air markets that are literally everywhere- the foods are cheaper than in the shops but the selection is limited to what is seasonal.
jon357 74 | 22,060
11 Mar 2013 #41
If you shop the open air markets that are literally everywhere- the foods are cheaper than in the shops but the selection is limited to what is seasonal.

Agreed. And what is seasonal in a place like Poland is usually what is best.

Except for a few treats to get you through the winter.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,854
12 Mar 2013 #42
but the selection is limited to what is seasonal.

as you have your 'no box' rule when shopping Pip, (good one to bear in mind) my rule is nothing that
has been flown in, nothing unseasonal. It really reduces the bill! so no blueberries, avacados, etc.
my only exception is oranges from Spain.
poland_
10 Apr 2013 #43
I have just returned from Tescos , we are shopping for two of us and the bill came to £105, we did not buy any particularly luxurious goods, 1 bottle of wine and two bottles of beer, the rest was staples meat, milk, yogurt, fruit, pasta etc nothing special. This will last us a week

I travel to the UK twice monthly and I believe it is less expensive in the UK to grocery shop than it is in Poland, the supermarkets in the UK seem to have everything geared to convenience packages ( deal meals) so there is very little waste, while in Poland it is still getting there.

I was shocked that in M&S you could buy a meal to go for four with a bottle of wine 15 GBP that is a snip.

The UK supermarkets buy their international products very well due to purchasing power, anything that is imported to Poland and seems to be less expensive than the UK will be lower quality. Polish products will of course be less expensive here than the UK,thats a given of course.

As a family of four our grocery bill is around 2.5 - 3,000 PLN per month.

Eating out,Theater and weekends away are far more affordable than the UK.
pam
10 Apr 2013 #44
the supermarkets in the UK seem to have everything geared to convenience packages ( deal meals)

Meal deals are getting more popular, especially if you have very little time to cook, but it's still an expensive way to buy food. I wouldn't buy them, and i don't know anybody else that does either.

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I was shocked that in M&S you could buy a meal to go for four with a bottle of wine 15 GBP that is a snip.

I think you'll find that was the Mother's Day meal for 4 offer which was heavily advertised on TV. No way is M&S that cheap normally!
poland_
11 Apr 2013 #45
I think you'll find that was the Mother's Day meal for 4 offer which was heavily advertised on TV. No way is M&S that cheap normally!

M&S in Poland are at least 30% more expensive than in the UK, the choice is very limited here too.

I wouldn't buy them, and i don't know anybody else that does either.

I actually thought the concept was excellent the offer I saw was an Indian menu, I also saw similar types of deals at Asda in Edinburgh. If the menu is to your taste then there is no waste, it would have to be cheaper than buying all the ingredients.
pam
11 Apr 2013 #46
I actually thought the concept was excellent the offer I saw was an Indian menu, I also saw similar types of deals at Asda in Edinburgh. If the menu is to your taste then there is no waste, it would have to be cheaper than buying all the ingredients.

All the major supermarkets do these meal deals now, and i do agree that for some of the meals, it could probably work out cheaper than making it yourself.

Especially the Indian ones, if you don't keep spices at home. But really, you wouldn't want to eat this sort of food every night, and it's still only one meal out of three a day. The portions don't look that big either, so if you're still hungry after, it's not such a good deal.

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I believe it is less expensive in the UK to grocery shop than it is in Poland

I think that very much depends on what you want to eat, and where you buy it.
You can eat very cheaply here if you buy the major supermarket's budget range foods, which include meat ,fruit and veg.
Personally i wouldn't touch it, and i prefer going to Butchers and Greengrocers, rather than supermarkets.
Supermarket fast food, burgers etc is also cheap, but would you really want to eat crap like that all the time? Neigh.
milky 13 | 1,656
11 Apr 2013 #47
I travel to the UK twice monthly and I believe it is less expensive in the UK to grocery shop than it is in Poland, the supermarkets in the UK seem to have everything geared to convenience packages ( deal meals) so there is very little waste, while in Poland it is still getting there.

very true.

As a family of four our grocery bill is around 2.5 - 3,000 PLN per month.

The majority hardly even earn this a month.
pam
11 Apr 2013 #48
As a family of four our grocery bill is around 2.5 - 3,000 PLN per month.

As Milky pointed out, many people don't even earn this much in Poland.
That's the equivalent of spending about £500-£600 a month in UK, which you could easily spend on shopping here,depending on what you put in your trolley.

I'm guessing Poland is probably similar to the UK. It obviously is possible to eat cheaply, given that the average wage is a lot lower than what you're spending on shopping, but it would depend on where and what you buy.
poland_
11 Apr 2013 #49
The majority hardly even earn this a month.

For a family of four in Poland.

We are here to discuss the rising cost of food purchases per month in Poland, not compare salaries. For the record I don't give two hoots how much other people earn, it won't put bread on my table.
milky 13 | 1,656
11 Apr 2013 #50
ok, but context on PF is always lost through blind subjectivity.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
11 Apr 2013 #51
We are here to discuss the rising cost of food purchases per month in Poland

I haven't noticed much difference at all. Chicken has sat around 14zl/kg for breasts, basic things like pasta are actually getting cheaper (Tesco, for instance, has excellent brown rice and pasta for 2zl a bag), vegetables are priced seasonally as always - really not much difference.
poland_
11 Apr 2013 #52
ok, but context on PF is always lost through blind subjectivity.

There lived six blind men in a village, who upon hearing that an elephant was near, and having never seen one, decided they wanted to explore it through touch. So, each of them walked up to the elephant, reached out their hands, and began to describe what they felt.

"Hey, the elephant is a pillar," said the first man who touched his leg.

"Oh, no! It is like a rope," said the second man who touched the tail.

"Oh, no! it is like a thick branch of a tree," said the third man who touched the trunk of the elephant.

"It is like a big fan" said the fourth man who touched the ear of the elephant.

"It is like a huge wall," said the fifth man who touched the belly of the elephant.

"It is like a solid pipe," Said the sixth man who touched the tusk of the elephant.

The six men began to argue about their experiences, each insisting that what they had felt was the true elephant. A bystander saw the six men arguing and offered his perspective expressing that each of the men were correct, only they were describing different parts of the elephant—that in fact, their collective experience represented the elephant as a whole.

As the story depicts, subjectivity is a wonderful phenomenon that allows us to hold the conviction of opinion that a unique perspective so assuredly provides. It is what defines the contours of our life, and yet, it is also the very thing that creates within us blind spots; areas for which we are unable to recognize what others may naturally perceive. If we are unable to see, for example, that the ideas of our colleagues may be a better solution to a current challenge than our own, then it is likely our subjectivity does hold the same idea. Subjectivity is inherently limiting because the amount of perspectives we can hold at any one time is finite. It is like inescapable tunnel vision.

Mods, I know its off topic the story does bring a little humour to today...

As long as the thread stays on topic I will leave this post. After all- lauhgther is healthy :)
milky 13 | 1,656
11 Apr 2013 #53
There is a postmodern version were they are made feel a big lump of cow dung.


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