Ripped Off in Poland? - Expose here:

It's much more than that. Where I come from is not perfect by any means but all those things I listed as problems in Poland are not major problems in the US. These things are cultural by in large and not just situational. Customer service is bad as a NORM in Poland not just an oddity. The headaches like I experienced in Immigration are COMMON in Poland not just bad situations. THAT is the difference. Some things like nosey neighbors etc are all over irrespective of nationality and some things are not.

Yeah it's not "fair" but it's reality.

well, USA get other problems and I dare to say that Poland's problems are easer to overcome than America problems.

See? You cant do it can you...you cant hear anything about Poland without saying "Yeah But in the USA.....". It's like someone pulls a string in your back and the same 6 phrases keep coming out.

Sorry to burst your bubble but if you reread above posts, you will notice that I wasn't the only one who did come up with idea to compare those country's.

When you talk about Polish culture you compare it to US one without even saying it !
So, its natural that Poles do the same!
Good night I sleeppppp

Buy now the new See and Say Ironside. Only 49.99pln +376% import taxes and fees and a little for the boss's pocket and it can be yours!

Poles develop new skills for any future return and lower their unemployment rate at home base in so doing. How's that not good?

are you using one yourself ? doubt it !


If they come back!
If they develop new skills which can be used in Poland.
Who is going to pay for older generation when **** hits the fan and real state of Polish economy will be exposed with all bad management and international credits - I can see that revel :(

No one and the people that can do something about it wont give a fcuk as they have cash.

You guys should parade in the streets, bring on some anarchy damn it.

As I'm saying put them all against a wall and use AK-47, God will recognize His own!

something should be done but many are in foreign country's and the pressure is down, EU was good for the fekkers for sure!

BIG WARNING: Pergamin Apartments
actually a lie, because there are simple rooms without even a kitchen
hotel in Stare Miasto, renting out rooms per night

pergaminapartments.

Pergamin Apartments is a Kraków hotel on ulica Bracka that rips off and scams tourists.

The scam is new and very dangerous.

My family spent two nights in Pergamin Apartments, convinced by their fake positive ratings and comments on booking.

The Pergamin apartments are on ulica Bracka nr.3-5, 31-005 Kraków

We paid with credit card at the end 500 zl for these 2 nights.
Just after 12 days, when I checked my bank statement, I saw that I had one charge of
5000 zl, followed every day by smaller payments of 500 zl all of them going to a strange polish company that must have link to Pergamin Apartments.

Of course I cancelled my credit card, and we are looking for a way to report this to polish Police, as by us being in Ireland now , it is quite hard.

If you have any ideas, that would be of much help.

Yeh, heres one stop lying.

We'll see how the owners of the apartments feel about him slandering them online - I've e-mailed them the link to the thread, along with his personal details... :)

(more jealousy on his part?)

Exposing the truth is a good thing to do.

And it is good you emailed Pergamin Apartments, they will thin now twice before
scamming and ripping off tourists as they did until now

I checked the Pergamin Apts. link and they do not advertize, or even mention kitchen at all.

Just come back from Carrefour super market they ran out of plastic shopping bags, can you believe that?

Yeah..i can believe that...i worked at a Polish woodyard....that ran out of wood...!

On a humorous note, bimber94 did you buy the batteries from your families shop?

No but I may as well have done. They stole from us in the UK in the 1980s whilst we put them up AND helped them find work on the side. Now they have small businesses only thanks to us, and now wouldn't even bother to crap on my face. Family my butt!! PL PEASANTS.

Hey! Has anyone noticed? The Polish Lotto's bonus ball has quietly disappeared?

OK guys, that's definitely true.

Call me petty, but has anyone noticed the so-called 100% fruit juice in cartons tastes considerably more insipid (that's 'watery') than the equivalent in the UK where it's half the price? Yes I know it sounds small-time and unimportant, but for the drinks companies, even a 1 groszy saving per carton amounts to huge annual profits.

Merged: Anyone got any experience dealing with a Polish company that won't return money to customer that it scammed?

Bit of a long story but the jist of it is this. We ordered windows from a company and paid 70% of the cost up front. The windows didn't arrive and the company owner told us that there had been delays and we would need to wait a further four weeks for delivery. Well this is of course possible so we waited the extra 4 weeks but then when we called on the day that the windows were to arrive the company owner told us that there were further delays because the manufacturer had moved it's production facilities. I called the company and they told us that they had not moved but that there were a lot of orders on-hold because the company that we ordered the windows from owed lots of money. We now need to take action.. We have been to the Police and the UOiKK. Next step I think is the courts...Newspapers? what do you think?

Why did you pay 70% up front ! I would NEVER pay up front for anything. Threaten them with death, I would.

No never pay up front in Poland (Unless its Castorama or another big shed), sorry it will be hard to get your money back..

So companies in Poland can take your money and decide not to deliver the goods and there is nothing that can be done?

Marcus, there are laws in place and things can be done, but many times it can be a long protracted procedure and in many cases the company being pursued just simply goes out of business. In my opinion this kind of happens more in Poland than other countries that I have experience of.

I went to the Police and they took a statement. They mentioned that the company could be done for fraud, they said they would investigate.. I wonder though.

This company has also taken a lot of other peoples money too. We are not the only ones.. they are still doing business and every day they operate they have the opportunity to take other people's money.

Marcus this might sound daft but a neighbor of mine had a dispute with a local company , he made a placard with his complaints on it and stood outside the company premises, he soon got his problem sorted, If they are still in business and have premises then try this, they may pay you back rather than be humiliated in public.

I was thinking of taking the story to the local newspapers.. we have two young kids.. building we live in is exposed, plastic covering the holes where the windows should be. May not get us our money back but would give them some free advertising.

Marcus I'm sorry you are in this situation especially with the young kids getting cold,

I would first go to the offices with the placard and threaten them that you will call the local press if they don't pay up straight away. otherwise if you go straight in with the press they will have nothing to lose by not paying up.

Where are you Marcus ? Do you need somewhere warm for the kids to sleep?
We moved into a raw house 13 years ago - a few days before Christmas with snow blowing in where the front door wasn't. So I feel your pain - and wonder if there's any practical help possible.

/cjj
(and a colleague once suggested the way to reach a workman's cold, hard heart was to talk to his mother after mass ...)