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St Patrick's day in Poland


Lyzko 30 | 7,376
17 Mar 2020 #121
Still, just hoist a few frosties and enjoy the day!
Slante:-)
johnny reb 29 | 5,405
17 Mar 2020 #122
St. Patrick was actually British.
His real name was Maewyn Succat.
Maewyn Succat was his name until he changed it to Patrick when he became a bishop.
March 17 is not Saint Patrick's birthday.
St. Patrick's Day observers who might have thought they were celebrating the saint's birthday will be surprised to learn that March 17, 461 AD is actually the day he died.
Joker 2 | 1,780
18 Mar 2020 #123
All the bars are closed down for St.Patricks Days due to the ChinaVirus, really bad timing for all the business owners as well.

They canceled the 2 Parades and the dying of the Chicago River. A long tradition attended by huge crowds.

Are the bars closed in Ireland? Poland??





jon357 67 | 16,907
18 Mar 2020 #124
Poland??

Yes. All closed.
Joker 2 | 1,780
18 Mar 2020 #125
Lets hope for better times next year......Slainte!
pawian 176 | 15,325
18 Mar 2020 #127
Are the bars closed in Ireland? Poland??

In Ireland too. Their Health Minister closed them down after seeing how people partied in one of them despite warnings. He got immensely pissed off and ordered the closure of all of them.
Lyzko 30 | 7,376
18 Mar 2020 #128
Quite right, Johnny!
For those with a death wish, I dare 'em to walk into any Irish pub, anywhere in the world, proclaiming, "GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, SAINT PADDY WAS AN ENGLISHMAN!"

lol
pawian 176 | 15,325
18 Mar 2020 #129
St. Patrick was actually British.

What? Incredible. It is as if John Paul II had been Russian.
Lyzko 30 | 7,376
18 Mar 2020 #130
True though.
He was in point of fact a slave of the Romans, taken to Ireland as an adult.
jon357 67 | 16,907
18 Mar 2020 #131
True though.

Yes. Born in Somerset to a family wealthy enough to have him educated.

It is as if John Paul II had been Russian.

It's quite likely that some of his distant ancestors were. One of his surviving family members is a Protestant married to a Jewish lady.
Joker 2 | 1,780
18 Mar 2020 #133
"GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, SAINT PADDY WAS AN ENGLISHMAN!"

I hope you have a good pair of sneakers, you will need to do the 50 yard dash! lol
jon357 67 | 16,907
18 Mar 2020 #134
It should be said that in his famous Confessio, he doesn't always speak especially highly about the people of Ireland. He was more concerned about their souls than anything else.
mafketis 25 | 9,320
18 Mar 2020 #135
he doesn't always speak especially highly about the people of Ireland

who does? (ducking whatever Atch is about to throw)
pawian 176 | 15,325
19 Mar 2020 #136
One of his surviving family members is a Protestant married to a Jewish lady.

But it is still quite far from Russian. I mean ethnic Russians, not Russian Jews or Russian Germans. :)
jon357 67 | 16,907
19 Mar 2020 #137
St Patrick though was a great traveller. I wonder if he was truly celibate or whether his genes continue to today.

It is as if John Paul II had been Russian.

The Tsar of All the Russias had a lot of Russias under his wing, from Łódż to Vladivostok. Never got as far as Ireland though (although the Cap of Monomakh spent 20 years in a cardboard box in someone's attic in Dublin)...
mafketis 25 | 9,320
20 Mar 2021 #138
A few days late, but here's a recipe for Irish Stew from an American historical cooking channel. The recipe comes from an Irish language cookbook from 1900...

He talks a lot about Irish history and the famine so there will be lots of things for Atch to complain about, too!

youtube.com/watch?v=S8KpFs1CHgw
Novichok 1 | 2,740
20 Mar 2021 #139
Quoting Wikipedia:

The historian Cecil Woodham-Smith wrote in The Great Hunger: Ireland 1845-1849 that no issue has provoked so much anger and embittered relations between England and Ireland "as the indisputable fact that huge quantities of food were exported from Ireland to England throughout the period when the people of Ireland were dying of starvation"

Somehow, I knew before I googled "Irish famine" that sooner or later I will see the evil hand of the ruling English scum as the reason why so many starved and died.
Atch 16 | 3,298
20 Mar 2021 #140
who does?

I do! Ha, ha! :))

there will be lots of things for Atch to complain about, too!

You can't knock the recipe, it's authentic :) And we still have contact with the Choctaw. The Irish people sent them donations last year during the first wave of Covid 19. There's a lovely sculpture dedicated to them in Co Cork.

the evil hand of the ruling English scum

Not that simple.

A Polish nobleman, Paweł Edmund Strzelecki is also honoured in Ireland for his efforts to provide relief during the Famine. He was actually distributing funds on behalf of a private British charity - that's an example of understanding the difference between the British government and 'the British'.
mafketis 25 | 9,320
20 Mar 2021 #141
we still have contact with the Choctaw

Halito!

There's a non-trivial chance (70 or so per cent) that I have some Choctaw ancestry (on my father's side so it doesn't count).

Lots of Americans have family lore about American Indian ancestry and most of it is... not true. But my father did have some of the look (including jet black hair and he had a fair resemblance to a famous leader) and he came from an area where there were Choctaw (and he knew a bunch of Choctaw lore supposedly from his grandmother). My mother used to occasionally pester me about joining the tribe but they only do descent matrilineally so I never bothered.

I would be tempted to do a dna test but I don't want that info shared with governments....

I assume this means I would be given a hero's welcome in Ireland and given the run of the place....
Novichok 1 | 2,740
20 Mar 2021 #142
Not that simple.

What is simple is that rotting potatoes alone would not kill millions. That was man-made and the killers were the government.
Just like today with covid.
Atch 16 | 3,298
21 Mar 2021 #143
My mother used to occasionally pester me about joining the tribe but they only do descent matrilineally so I never bothered.

I just checked and they don't specify matrilineal descent, just lineal descent. Could it have changed? My sister's husband is a member of the Blackfeet tribe by adoption. He lived with them for two years in Montana and they gave him membership after that. He has the feathers and the whole kit and caboodle :) It's actually really lovely watching him when he does his offerings and prayers to 'Mother Earth' and 'Father Sky'.

I don't want that info shared with governments....

Why? On a point of principal? Or do you think they'll do something sinister with it? I can't imagine what that could be. Sod them. If you're a Choctaw, you should know about it.

a hero's welcome in Ireland

You'd get that anyway. Just tell them Atch sent you ;)
mafketis 25 | 9,320
21 Mar 2021 #144
On a point of principal?

Basically, there's enough surveillance going on now, no need to contribute. And the companies that do that should not be rewarded.
Atch 16 | 3,298
21 Mar 2021 #145
Are the bars closed in Ireland?

Yes, they've been closed for a year. The ones who serve food ie a full hot dinner, which very few do, were allowed to reopen for a few weeks but what we call the 'wet pubs' have not reopened and there's a real fear that some of them never will. Pubs that have been in the same family for generations will be gone - very sad.
Crow 147 | 9,307
21 Mar 2021 #146
St Patrick was a gentleman, happy to live and work far from Rome. And he loved his people more then he loved Rome. Its seen from his deeds. So, Rome declared St Patrick a Saint so Rome also profit on his name. That`s how they do things. Only question is where are they there, in profit.
Novichok 1 | 2,740
21 Mar 2021 #147
Pubs that have been in the same family for generations will be gone - very sad.

Don't be sad. They will be back in business under new owners. The previous ones, broke and desperate, will be their customers - getting ready to re-elect the covid terrorists who made them "previous".
Poloniusz 4 | 391
21 Mar 2021 #148
Pubs that have been in the same family for generations will be gone - very sad.

Not at all. They are just buildings that will be repurposed to reflect and serve the needs of modern, diverse, and progressive Ireland.
Crow 147 | 9,307
21 Mar 2021 #149
I wont be surprised if Obama become owner of some old pub. That will send clear message to public that progressive changes came to Ireland.
Atch 16 | 3,298
21 Mar 2021 #150
Don't try to do irony/sarcasm, Pollyanna. You're not nearly clever enough to pull that one off :) Actually one of the areas where Ireland has always scored is our ability to Gaelicize people who settle there. It happened with the Vikings, they assimilated completely, as did the Normans and even the Cromwellian settlers either left or just became properly Irish.

Some people worry that by focusing on Inclusion and Diversity we will water down the GAA, making it into something that caters for everything and stands for nothing. This is most definitely not what Inclusion and Diversity are about.

The GAA remains the Gaelic Athletic Association. That means we're proud of and celebrate our Irishness; that we focus on Gaelic Ga mes and activities; that we're community-based; and that we cherish our amateur an d volunteer bases. We don't compromise on those fundamentals. The GAA Club doesn't become a one-size-fits- all organisation. The few ethnic minorities we have in Ireland tend to integrate well. They're welcome to identify as Irish, simple as that. The Gaelic Athletic Association puts it very well:

Some people worry that by focusing on Inclusion and Diversity we will water down the GAA, making it into something that caters for everything and stands for nothing. This is most definitely not what Inclusion and Diversity are about.

The GAA remains the Gaelic Athletic Association. That means we're proud of and celebrate our Irishness; that we focus on Gaelic Games and activities; that we're community-based; and that we cherish our amateur an d volunteer bases. We don't compromise on those fundamentals. The GAA Club doesn't become a one-size-fits- all organisation.

We remain and are proud of what we are but in doing so and in remaining true to all that, we should be open and welcoming to others.



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