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Poland needs more immigrants and their children - which nationalities are the best?


PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
23 Mar 2012 #31
Once Poland needs workers, immigration can help fill that void.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
23 Mar 2012 #32
by importing western european immigrants, especially pro's in their 40's with kids the government must be prepared to give incentives for wealthy individuals to come here and create jobs..

Good luck with that, because all European nations (not to forget the USA, Canada and Australia) want these people and Poland has to face a keen competition. The difficult language and the reputation of ex-communist countries in the west are also not very helpful in this respect. Poland is heading in the right direction, but I believe that the country needs a few more decades of development before it can seriously think about competing for highly skilled immigrants.
EM_Wave 9 | 310
23 Mar 2012 #33
but I believe that the country needs a few more decades of development before it can seriously think about competing for highly skilled immigrants.

This is true. I'm American but if I had to move to Europe, it would definitely be western Europe.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
23 Mar 2012 #34
Currently, a typical Polish class looks like that:

I don't see a thing wrong with that, beautiful northern European looking children. You're forgeting that people who look like that are a minority in this world and should be preserved lol.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
23 Mar 2012 #35
Amen brother.

Only us white fools give others minority status, when we only represent 8% of the overall global population!

We are the minority!
martiiiiiina - | 2
23 Mar 2012 #36
RevokeNice:
Not only is your comment racist, but also it roes not really correspond to reality.
Check out all the people of different skin-color at Wall Str. or anywhere in the more developed countries.. I'm curious how you would turn out born in one of poorer African countries.
pip 10 | 1,658
23 Mar 2012 #37
you guys are disgusting.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
23 Mar 2012 #38
I'm curious how you would turn out born in one of poorer African countries.

I am white. My ancestors built a great nation for me to live in. God bless them.

African countries.

Their ancestors didnt.

Sucks, but this is life.

Wall Str

In a nation built by whites.
ShawnH 8 | 1,491
23 Mar 2012 #39
In a nation built by whites.

Not in all cases. Slave labour and all. That and Wall Street doesn't really represent the "Best of America".
ReservoirDog - | 132
23 Mar 2012 #40
Their ancestors didnt.

What about Egypt??
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
23 Mar 2012 #41
Egypt. The great civilzation built on the silt of the upper Nile. Gone but never forgotten!
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
23 Mar 2012 #42
Amen brother.

Only us white fools give others minority status, when we only represent 8% of the overall global population!

We are the minority!

I'm not a white supremacist, but I do think white people are the best looking, (everyone wants a white girl) and mixing will ruin everything. We'd have no more blue, green eyes, or blond, red hair, fair skin. They say diversity is good, exactly, if we all mix it wont be diverse we'd be the same, boring.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
23 Mar 2012 #43
What about Egypt??

Whites.

Unless you think blacks built the pyramids, went back to sub saharan Africa and continue to live in mudhuts to this very day?
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
23 Mar 2012 #44
Africans have never invented anything worthwhile. They have made no positive contributions to mankind. Why import them?

This man begs to differ:
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7n36qV4Lk94
I'm against today's expression of "Multi-culturalism" because it ignores the root problem of native people's BEING FORCED TO LEAVE THEIR HOMELAND in search of a better life. The problem is that they have No Options at Home and that's the real problem. Importing the problem is not the solution-it's a band aid.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
23 Mar 2012 #45
The only whites appeared in Egypt after the Ptolemys invaded and began ruling. Egyptians were African, although not dark skinned negroes. They were definitely not northern European looking!
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
23 Mar 2012 #46
Not in all cases. Slave labour and all. That and Wall Street doesn't really represent the "Best of America".

Were the slaves and indentured servants not "owned" by private owners, i.e not the American state?

Where they involved in state sponsored construction?

If not, then they didnt build the cities and shape America.
EM_Wave 9 | 310
23 Mar 2012 #47
RevokeNice, you talk about how advanced your civilization is yet you haven't revealed what you do. Unless you're a physicist, engineer, doctor, or something else that's respectable and contributes to advancing civilization, you should shut up.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
23 Mar 2012 #48
RevokeNice, you talk about how advanced your civilization is yet you haven't revealed what you do

I buy for a euro and sell for two.

iPhone in my pocket, invented by a white man.

TV, same.

Laptop, same.

Car, same.

Electricity I am using, same.

You get the picture.
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
23 Mar 2012 #49
iPhone in my pocket, invented by a white man.

with very precious minerals mined by exploited Africans, in exploited Africa

TV, same.

Laptop, same.

And that's the problem, when so many people are exploited, they're going to want to get out. The solution is to do what's right and improve life for people there not just pretend colour is the deciding issue- it isn't.

Who profits the most from their sh*tastic existence? Well white people do mainly.
Was it my decision to rape Africans of their history and land? No, but some people did make those decisions, however they haven't had to deal with any problems and pains that come with a multicultural society, the common person does. Meanwhile those same people keep getting richer and people in poor countries still keep getting treated worse than most people's dogs in the west.

How are going to change that?
First thing you've got to do is identify the real source of the problem.

Food for thought:
Where did Algebra originate?
Where would our butts be now without that invention?
Does that mean we go around bowing down to every Iranian or Iraqi we meet because "they" invented it?
Or does it mean we try to remember how unspecial we are simply due to where we were born and our skin colour?
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
23 Mar 2012 #50
The Stats speak for themselves, whites and east Asian on top .. sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
23 Mar 2012 #51
George Washington Carver who invented many products for cosmetic and food industries is an African American. So there's your answer.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
23 Mar 2012 #52
No we don't. We don't want become another UK with a lot oriental restaurants and pubs but no hardware shops.
Where buying a door lock is pain in the @$$ in the city with 200k inhabitants.

Don't worry Peter, I doubt Olsztyn will get many. Olsztyn now has an international reputation as a place full of racists thanks to pizza boy.
OP pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Mar 2012 #53
That's easy. Filipinos, Koreans, Chinese are hard-working and family-oriented. They also make great neighbors.

Don`t forget the Vietnamese. I suppose they make the biggest Asian minority in Poland.

Maybe better child benefit rates, better childcare facilities provided by the state and more stringent maternity leave law etc. would encourage more births.

That is simple to say but hard to introduce. Poland is already hugely indebted, you wanna make it bigger?

No we don't. We don't want become another UK with a lot oriental restaurants and pubs but no hardware shops.

What about chain DIY stores?

Consider Greeks, they're buggered for the next couple of decades and some will want out.

Yes, there were already a few waves of Greek immigration to Poland: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Poland

It not that Poles don't want to breed they simply can't afford it in this sad,anti citizen,opressive country..

It isn`t true. Quite the opposite. Never in their history have Poles been as prosperous as today. I claim it is prosperity that halted reproduction - people prefer comfortable lives to family duties.

You already have a half germanic population, then a high percentage is genealogically Scottish, Irish, English, etc.

Really? :):):) I didn`t know about it.
EM_Wave 9 | 310
23 Mar 2012 #54
It isn`t true. Quite the opposite. Never in their history have Poles been as prosperous as today. I claim it is prosperity that halted reproduction - people prefer comfortable lives to family duties.

This is very true. You'll have to excuse grubas as he's very ignorant.

Here in America, the middle class have less children than the poor.
OP pawian 224 | 24,465
23 Mar 2012 #55
but I believe that the country needs a few more decades of development before it can seriously think about competing for highly skilled immigrants.

Come on, Poland doesn`t need spoiled highly skilled immigrants from the West who will always remain doubtful about their choice and will leave the very moment they get a better salary somewhere else, be it Fiji Islands or Belarus.

Poles are skilled enough. I just talked to an ex-student of mine who is studying biotechnology at the Jagiellonian University in Krakow. She told me that Western Erasmus exchange students are amazed at the high quality of biotech faculty in Poland, e.g., lab classes in German universities start in the third year, while Polish students have them in the first year.

What we need is poor but persevering immigrants who are ambitious enough to have a better life than they had in their native countries. Even if they don`t become highly skilled professionals, their children will one day. And they will feel Polish.

They only thing they need is a warm welcome in Poland.
BBman - | 343
23 Mar 2012 #56
What can Poland offer new immigrants?

Poland is actually an attractive place for people in the former eastern block and 3rd world countries. It may not be a perfect country but at least it is safe and finding clean drinking water is not a problem. I read an article in a polish newspaper about the increasing number of ukrainian students who choose to study in a polish uni and look forward to remaining in Poland post grad.

Their relatively small populations, with high numbers of minorities, will see them be bred out of existence.

This is a serious problem, unfortunately multi-culti fanatics can't understand this and dont seem to care about their heritage.

Good luck with that, because all European nations (not to forget the USA, Canada and Australia) want these people and Poland has to face a keen competition.

These countries are more interested in bringing more non-visible minorities.

RevokeNice, you talk about how advanced your civilization is yet you haven't revealed what you do. Unless you're a physicist, engineer, doctor, or something else that's respectable and contributes to advancing civilization, you should shut up.

You're a prn producer, right? If so then YOU should shut up.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
23 Mar 2012 #57
Poles are skilled enough.

I don't doubt that. The question was what to do about a shrinking population in Poland.

What we need is poor but persevering immigrants who are ambitious enough to have a better life than they had in their native countries.

Whom do you have in mind?
OP pawian 224 | 24,465
24 Mar 2012 #58
I'm against today's expression of "Multi-culturalism" because it ignores the root problem of native people's BEING FORCED TO LEAVE THEIR HOMELAND in search of a better life. The problem is that they have No Options at Home and that's the real problem. Importing the problem is not the solution-it's a band aid.

Sorry, we have a rat race and the law of the jungle.

Poland is losing its elites to better developed countries.

If Poland sucks in elites from less developed countries, it will be balanced.
Wedle 15 | 490
24 Mar 2012 #59
This is true. I'm American but if I had to move to Europe, it would definitely be western Europe.

That is the problem Americans have absolutely no concept of Europe. They just don't get reality here...
OP pawian 224 | 24,465
24 Mar 2012 #60
Poland is actually an attractive place for people in the former eastern block and 3rd world countries. It may not be a perfect country but at least it is safe and finding clean drinking water is not a problem.

Yes, safety is important. I feel safer in Poland today than I felt in US in 1990s.
As for water, ooops, it is a problematic issue as Poland isn`t abundant in water supplies and we pay a lot for it.

pawian:
What we need is poor but persevering immigrants who are ambitious enough to have a better life than they had in their native countries.

Whom do you have in mind?

E.g.,

I read an article in a polish newspaper about the increasing number of ukrainian students who choose to study in a polish uni and look forward to remaining in poland post grad.


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