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Why are Muslims seen as a deterrent to Poland?


Joker 1 | 1,057
12 Nov 2017  #451
If he is a US citizen than he can.

I asked him before why he didn't vote in the last election and he gave me a lame excuse.

With all his belly aching about American policies on this forum one would think he would take the time to go vote.

I doubt he's even legal to vote, if he is, then it`s a shame that he didn't and should put a sock in it and spare us from the ultra liberal diatribe.
OP johnny reb 17 | 3,676
12 Nov 2017  #452
Watching the British expats on here squirm trying to reconcile their left wing neo-liberalism nonsense

Beautiful, absolutely beautiful as I have tried for two years telling them that only to be ganged up on by them and their denial.
Notice how they have slowly been disappearing now that they no longer can deny the truth to promote their propaganda.
jon357 even posted how this migration would "enrich" the Polish culture ! Oh yi yi

I want to emigrate to Poland precisely because of their stance on these issues

And this is what makes Poland so appealing to me.
The people stand their ground and refuse to be pushed around by the Lefts Political Correctness Guilt.

extol the virtues of 'tolerance' and living amongst barbarians that they themselves will never have to experience.

Exactly and the Polish people are neither dumb or blind to this.
When I posted a year ago that Poland will be the only safe haven in the EU in the near future for the EU Liberal Elites that caused their own mess I was met with denial by the ex-pats that already enjoy the safety that Poland offers them.

As long as Poland stands their ground on these issues the more sought after the diamond in the ruff will become.
The big money (EU elites) will start pouring into Poland to escape these barbarians that the commie neo-liberals invited into the EU to destroy their cultures with Islam.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,495
12 Nov 2017  #453
The big money (EU elites) will start pouring into Poland to escape these barbarians that the commie neo-liberals invited into the EU to destroy their cultures with Islam.

Many people from western Europe especially seniors vacation in Poland and an increasing amount are buying homes to retire because they don't have to deal with the BS and crime/terror and its much cheaper.
Dougpol1 30 | 2,956
12 Nov 2017  #454
they don't have to deal with the BS

That's almost funny Dirk. Except that under PIS, it's far from amusing. For myself, I am going to retire to the UK so that I don't have to deal with "the BS", as you call it.

It's called ridiculous bureaucracy, and only offends more, and makes the person's life unnecessarily more difficult, as they grow older.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,495
12 Nov 2017  #455
@Dougpol1

Still better than Islamic terror

That's fine a ton of poles from uk and us, ukranians, educated Indians esp in it, Chinese and koreans, as well as other Europeans keep coming in.

The courts weren't that much different before 2015 for ordinary ppl so plz spare me the bs it was the same bureaucracy
Dougpol1 30 | 2,956
12 Nov 2017  #456
But terror attacks don't faze the average person. We are of course far more likely to die choking on a Big Mac. A decent health service, and a bit of respect for pensioners, not shifting them from pillar to post, in needless bureaucracy, which is designed to create jobs in small towns for pointless positions, is what I'm aiming for. Not to mention an escape from these bitter winds:))
SigSauer 4 | 413
12 Nov 2017  #457
@Dougpol1

Big Macs are already in Poland. People who want to destroy the culture, kill gays, and subjugate women are not. Ergo, Poland can put its own citizens first, and not add new potential dangers to the country. I previously did not support Trump's travel ban, and my position has since changed. No one has a right to emigrate or seek refuge in America, and if even 1 in 20,000 of them are radicals who will harm Americans, then I don't give two flying F's about the other 19,999 American dream, tough ****, American's first.
Joker 1 | 1,057
12 Nov 2017  #458
@Lyzko
If the Germans feel this great need to apologize then it should be towards the Jewish ppl, not Islamic terrorists. How many Muslims died at Auschwitz?

This theory doesn't hold water and has nothing to do with WWII and everything that pertains to PCness, which is destroying Europe.
TheOther 5 | 3,721
12 Nov 2017  #459
America's multicultural efforts were ORGANIC, and they formed what is today a uniquely American culture

I agree, but then ... every group of new arrivals was the target of hatred and xenophobia. The Irish, the Italians, the Polish, the Germans, the Japanese ... and now it's the Hispanics. Not even talking about how the blacks were treated in this country until the 1960's (and beyond). It's the fear of the unknown and new that drives this behavior, and the politicians take advantage of this human trait, as Kondzior correctly called it. In one hand they hold the Bible and talk about sin, with the other hand they grab the P of some underage girl while cheating and lying and waiting for their third divorce to go through. Exactly these hypocrites - copies of the crazies of pre-WW2 times - are on the rise everywhere and people are yet again following the Pied Piper. Just look at what happened in Warsaw today, or read the comment section of the Daily Fail and how the posters there blame the Poles for "taking away the jobs of good British people".

I am generally against an uncontrolled influx of people from Third World countries into Europe, I've said that on various occasions already, but that doesn't mean that I am okay with the resurrection of a nightmare that was buried in 1945.

you're not an American, you do not have a right to an opinion on our domestic matters

Do you really believe you're a "real" American just because you are second generation? Ha ha ha. Ask the nutters in the South what they think about a catholic Polack (see above)...
SigSauer 4 | 413
12 Nov 2017  #460
@TheOther

Yes, I am a "real" American, as I've only visited Portugal twice, I don't speak the language, and I've never visited Ireland. I'm writing this right this very moment, in harms way, to advance the foreign policy interests of this country. I believe in preserving American hegemony.

Yes, you as a foreigner have no right to an opinion on domestic US affairs. You emigrated to my country knowing full well the country, and if you agree with our positions you are more than welcome to participate in discourse, but how dare you openly mock with disdain our culture, how dare you. I would never presume to emigrate to Australia, and mock you people for requiring a white board be called a "presentation board," or that you call black coffe as "regular coffe," as my Australian friends have told me you do (and correct me if I'm wrong). As absolutely absurd and cucked as I think you'd have to be to change the name in common usage for something so as not to offend .1% of people who might take offense to it, Australia is a sovereign nation, and I ever chose to try to emigrate there, I'd do so knowing what their cultural norms are, and I would RESPECT them.

You are very welcome to go back to that country from whence you came if you don't like how we do things in America. You may be naturalized, but your opinion is most unwelcome. You have nerve.
cms 9 | 1,272
12 Nov 2017  #461
I think when you come here and want to earn your six figures that will mean mixing with the most educated and worldly Poles who have what you would refer to as radical leftist cucked views; but are in fact the norm for modern Europeans.

The anti immigration stuff is for the consumption of the old and the gullible - as Doug says most normal people know they are more at risk on Polands roads and under-developed hospitals than from terrorism. If you spout off your spiel about 7th century barbarians you will not find it falling on receptive ears.

Never seen traffic in Warsaw like on Friday night with everyone fleeing the march of the bigoted idiots yesterday.
OP johnny reb 17 | 3,676
12 Nov 2017  #462
The anti immigration stuff is for the consumption of the old and the gullible -

No, for the old and WISE.

people know they are more at risk on Polands roads and under-developed hospitals than from terrorism.

At this point you mean.
What happens after two or three generations of them breeding their three wives to have six or eight children each ?
What happens when the Islamic out numbers the Catholics in a couple of generations ?
They are already demanding pork fee school lunches at the public schools and that is just a start,
Want to see the end results of Muslim culture in the EU then go to Marseille France and see how they have taken over and destroyed that city to a point that they have their own laws and YOU are not welcomed there.

The French city of Marseille has an estimated 30 to 40 percent Muslim population and has been ranked as the most dangerous city in Europe.
My prediction is that London will be the same way in the next generation.
Why are you people so damn blind to what their motivation is and that is making your culture their culture ya stupe butts.
cms 9 | 1,272
12 Nov 2017  #463
I have been to Marseille many times both for work and pleasure Johnny and felt safer there than I did in a comparable size US town, say Cincinnati or Charlotte. Without looking up I suspect there are at least 50 towns in the US with higher crime rates.

Have you ever been there ?
Ironside 48 | 9,721
12 Nov 2017  #464
mixing with the most educated and worldly Poles

Name two!

Never seen traffic in Warsaw like on Friday night with everyone fleeing the march of the bigoted idiots yesterday.@ cms

Seem to be a regular weekend traffic. Out of the city break for Warsowians. You wouldn't confabulate somewhat here would you?
SigSauer 4 | 413
12 Nov 2017  #465
@cms

Ohhh boy. The arrogance of assuming that all top income earners subscribe to your version of left wing progressive social justice radicalism. It's precisely the dismissive attitude to the concerns of the working class that is pushing so many rational centrists like myself to the right, and so many already right wingers to the far right in Europe. This attitude, and open borders policies is directly responsible. Thousands of people did not suddenly wake up one day and decide to be xenophobes as you describe them, I mention as you describe them because their fears are far from irrational.

How high does the death toll need to get for you to admit there is a problem? I mean, how many innocent Europeans need to be run down in the street like dogs? To their families, to the peoples lives who have been irrevocably changed by the policies that have been enacted by the left in Europe, they care. Certainly to the 1,400 children who were groomed and exploited in Rotherham by Pakistanis, and whose abuse was virtually ignored for years at the risk of the police appearing racist, they certainly care. And most recently, to the 16 year old girl who was charged with a hate crime for using a racial slur against her 29 year old Turkish rapist, she certainly cares. You however, don't seem to give a **** about them.
OP johnny reb 17 | 3,676
12 Nov 2017  #466
I have been to Marseille many times both for work and pleasure Johnny and felt safer there than I did in a comparable size US town, say Cincinnati or Charlotte.

Really, maybe you should google Marseille's crime index (65%) and look at the pictures of the Muslim neighborhoods.
The French police will not even enter them.
The hard drug trade there alone is atrocious.
Over 2300 reports of thieves in just a three month period.
Have you ever been to Cincinnati or Charlotte ?
I have and felt very safe.

I suspect there are at least 50 towns in the US with higher crime rates.

You wouldn't confabulate somewhat here would you ? lol
If not, name them.
cms 9 | 1,272
12 Nov 2017  #467
Yes I have been to Cincinnati- it has a murder rate 4x higher than Marseille. Yes I have visited Charlotte many times - it's where I normally fly into when visiting the US. Its 67 murders last year is far higher than Marseille.

sSigSauer you seem like a decent guy but you will find that out for yourself when you come here and start looking for a job - logistics if I remember ? . Go for a few recruitment meetings and if you get the chance raise your views over a bottle of wine and see the reaction you get.
Lyzko 22 | 6,544
12 Nov 2017  #468
@Sig and Joker,

You both have a point and clearly Merkel's making a tough call. What alternative does she have? The AfD??! Heaven help us all!! She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.
SigSauer 4 | 413
12 Nov 2017  #469
@cms

Yes, as much as I would like to disagree with you CMS, my experience working with Brits during my time in Europe made it pretty clear that they've all drunk the kool-aid. My first work function around Christmas time ended with a heated debate over healthcare being a 'right,' and my use of the word 'Paki' sent one British woman into a meltdown.
Lyzko 22 | 6,544
12 Nov 2017  #470
Well, uhh, Pakistanis certainly would resent being referred to in that way, much as Russians don't enjoy being called "Russkies".
Joker 1 | 1,057
12 Nov 2017  #471
@Lyzko
The term " paki" is offensive to Brits, yet it perfectly fine in America.

Don't pretend you don't understand this
Lyzko 22 | 6,544
12 Nov 2017  #472
Who's pretending? I find it offensive also, albeit I'm an American, and NOT of Pakistani origin either:-)
SigSauer 4 | 413
12 Nov 2017  #473
I find it to be perfectly acceptable since Pakistan means Paki - Land. The same way I'd call someone from Afghanistan an Afghani. Just because Brits want to white knight and pretend to be offended at every turn, and police language, does not mean that I have to get on board with it. I'll rank that somewhere in the neighborhood of thinking that I'm ever going to use someones preferred gender pronoun and participate in their mental illness.
Lyzko 22 | 6,544
12 Nov 2017  #474
Once heard someone ask a Pakistani whether they spoke PakistaniLOL
Apparently, they didn't realize that their language is called "Pangla"
:-)
SigSauer 4 | 413
12 Nov 2017  #475
@Lyzko

Was under the impression they spoke Urdu.
G (undercover)
12 Nov 2017  #476
I think when you come here and want to earn your six figures that will mean mixing with the most educated and worldly Poles who have what you would refer to as radical leftist cucked views; The anti immigration stuff

You "expats" and your "views". Funny. Again and again and again, even if you lefties repeat it a million times, the whole story about "well educated, tolerant, modern lefties" vs. backward, uneducated "racists" have nothing to do with reality. The best jokes about ciapaks I hear from my CEO and I'm not a blue collar dude either. The only difference in this department is that you folks THNK that you are some sort of "elites". You teach friggin English for a living and think you are successful and modern while people you don't agree with, are "uneducated peasants from Poland B", doesn't matter If they own a business or have a corpo job you wouldn't be even invited for an interview If you try to get it.
Lyzko 22 | 6,544
12 Nov 2017  #477
Whoops, guess I was confusing it with the language spoken in Bangladesh!!LOL

Yes of course, in Pakistan they speak Urdu. At least I never thought it was Pakistani.
Thanks for the heads up:-)
Wulkan - | 3,251
12 Nov 2017  #478
Go for a few recruitment meetings and if you get the chance raise your views over a bottle of wine and see the reaction you get.

You mean the recruitment meetings would look like this?


SigSauer 4 | 413
12 Nov 2017  #479
@G (undercover)

Damn bro that was savage af......def heard the *MIC DROP* on that one! hahaha
Chemikiem 6 | 1,950
12 Nov 2017  #480
How high does the death toll need to get for you to admit there is a problem? I mean, how many innocent Europeans need to be run down in the street like dogs?

I could say exactly the same about gun deaths in the US, over 8000 gun homicides per year according to FBI reports, but it would fall on deaf ears. I mean, how many innocent Americans need to be gunned down in the street like dogs? I'm not trying to make light of terrorist incidents, but in the scheme of things, Americans are more likely to die from being shot than from a terrorist incident carried out by a Muslim,which is why I cannot understand the way that you ( and the other Americans on this forum ), go on and on and on and on about the Muslim problem. Hypocrisy much?Those gun deaths can always be justified though can't they, and it doesn't matter how many more innocent people die as a result from the right to bear arms.Perhaps Trump would do better to look at cleaning up his own back yard before imposing travel bans. Wonder why Saudi isn't on that list. Hmm.


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