Or unless you wage a Vladimir Vladimirovich style war.
Indeed.
If we could have a war, like WW2, in which 6 million Polish citizens would die, but then - after the war - we had similar baby boom as we did after WW2 (under horrible Soviet occupation), it would actually be much better for Polish demographics than if the current nonsense continued.
F Immigrants, they are getting older too, and their children will also have fewer kids unless you put them on generous welfare, which defiles the point, doesn't it? Many countries have been in this situation, and the result is evident. The only solution is to have a system that incentivizes people to have children, and that is the crux of the discussion. We can debate which system could work best. --
We're not white, we're Slavs. You're not talking to enough Americans online, apparently.
Look, I know what I'm, maybe you are lost ****** in the country, if that's the case, I understand, otherwise, why are you such a woman? They say? Who? Some Americans? They are, for the most part, the biggest mix of everything. That's really funny, some mongrels have an opinion on racial purity. lol! Be more assertive, Torq. ---
Christian-my-arse... 57% of Poles aged 18-40 have no children at all
Because our society is not Christian, but rather influenced by liberal blasphemy. We should return society to Christians.
those experiences working with Indians working in offices in India or in Poland
These are experiences from Germany. I recently had an Indian deputy for three years. Now I have a German one, and things are even worse at the moment. So, as you can see, everything depends on the person and the situation.
An interesting article published just before Fond of Lying's major India speech (where, if you watched the video I linked on x.com, she proudly announced "the first EU Legal Gateway Office in India to facilitate Indian talent moving to Europe" - not the other way around):
- Russia is focusing on India because they aim to limit the number of muslims entering the country, expecting that most migrants will be hindus.
- Indians in Russia face significant language barriers, as most Russians do not speak English.
- The influx mainly consists of unskilled Indian workers, rather than skilled professionals.
- Indians are already participating in Russia's military efforts in Ukraine.
Many of these points serve as a portent for Poland.
And demographics are destiny, after all.
Perhaps the emphasis on India points to a larger, underlying agenda.
With the same source for demographic replacement, Indo-Poles and Indo-Russians of the future might finally stop fighting - despite centuries of mistrust when they were once uniquely Slavs.
Indians are enthusiastically pro-israel too, thanks in no small part to their endless internecine hostility with muslim Pakistan. Maybe their philosemitism will finally end centuries of accusations of anti-semitism against all Europeans.
Who knew the solution to European woes was just more Indian migration?
And, of course, the greatest benefit of all - at least for the British trolls on PF - is that it will finally be correct to say that, genetically, culturally, and over time, even linguistically, Polish-Americans and Indo-Poles have absolutely nothing in common. Night and day, as stark as it gets.
But the biggest questions will be: will the British trolls on PF regard Indo-Poles as Plastic Poles - merely Indians with Polish surnames (assuming that usage persists) - and not truly Polish? Will they acknowledge that it is Polish-Americans who will carry on preserving the Polish language, culture, and traditions - even through Poland's darkest eras of occupation and near erasure? In that case, Indo-Poles and other pretend Poles can only envy that enduring legacy, which British trolls will no doubt remain vexed by as they observe Polish-Americans safeguarding all things Polish.
The actual way to fix this is to provide an incentive for people to get married younger. Average age of marriage in the west as a whole is low 30s, but fertility peaks in the mid 20s. Obviously some immigration but mainly from dying countries like Russia, but people want to have careers instead of families now in the west. Some sort of incentive could be the government subsidising your electricity bills if you marry under 30 and will last forever but end if you get divorced.
There's no way to "fix" processes that are directed subconsciously...
A few factors...
At the infrastructural level:
At present the world runs on a system (capitalism) that requires endless growth.
Those in decision making positions tend to variety of capitalism (neoliberalism) that views adult humans, not as complex organisms formed by genetics, culture, uprbringing and language but more or less like a normal person views potatoes - interchangeable and fungible.
Population fluctuations are not unnatural, but rather a normal part of the life cycle of species.
This completely normal process contradicts the idea of endless growth so they think: We need more potatoes in this bos (let's say the UK)... I know! we can take some potatoes from that big box over there! (ie Pakistan) and it will be really, cool...
Since they fundamentally misunderstand human nature, they tend to not perceive that Pakistanis in the UK act.... like they do in Pakistan and remain: extremely clannish, inbred, violent, unhealthily fixated on sex and very intolerant towards anyone who isn't them.
Pakistani results in the UK are known... and aren't good. No reason to keep a failed experiment going.
Mexicans in the US face some of the same issues but with very different specifics and kind of uniquely the second and third generations in the US don't do any better than the first.
So, rather than 'fix' the problem, moving people around like potatoes just deepens the problem and/or creates new ones.
Average age of marriage in the west as a whole is low 30s
Since laissez-faire capitalism sucks money out of communities along with resources access to non-landlordist housing, jobs that pay more than employers can get away with etc, etc, that would need a whole systemic shift.
A good idea though.
end if you get divorced.
Best just to keep bills low wotjought unnecessary profit made from energy supply.
Neoliberalism is by no means "laissez-faire" according to everybody that's ever analysed how it functions. It's always about prioritizing some econcomice sectors/actors to the detriment of others.
At present, it prioritizes tech and liquid capital.
In the US there is move toward prioritizing gambling (another way to fleece the poor).
always about prioritizing some econcomice sectors/actors to the detriment of others.
Which is of course essentially what always happens with laissez-faire capitalism. Wealth is extracted from communities and flows to those best places to get it and keep it.
One problem with the trickle down theory of monetarism is that all it ever does is trickle.
What a "pregnant mother" is doing on these rallies. She probably meant "Ukrainian immigration" when she spoke of "mass immigration" in Poland. Still, why would they single out her:
The District Court in Zamość found Oliwia Olejniczak guilty of "inciting hatred" and slapped her with a 3,000 PLN fine (roughly $800-$1,000) for remarks she made at a completely legal and peaceful "Stop Immigration" rally on July 19, 2025.
probably meant "Ukrainian immigration" when she spoke of "mass immigration" in Poland
"Nie pozwólmy na to, żeby do naszego pięknego Zamościa sprowadzić murzyństwo, sprowadzić islamistów, którzy będą mordować nas i nasze dzieci"
Let's not allow our beautiful Zamość to be the destination of blackness or Islamists who will murder us and our children
"Po prostu się boję, że przyjdzie jakiś Murzyn, gdy będę z dzieckiem na spacerze i zrobi nam krzywdę. Nie pozwólmy, by Murzyni, islamiści, kolonizowali nasz piękny Zamość."
I'm simply afraid that some Black man will approach while I'm walking with my child and harm us. Let's not allow Blacks and/or Islamists colonize our beautiful Zamość.
As a free speech near-absolutist I don't think the above, as poorly expressed as they are, should be prosecuted.
Worth mentioning that her speech wouldn't be illegal where I'm from (though it would be scandalous) and probably the same where you're from, however in PL evidently yes.
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