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Immigration in Poland and being surrounded by a monoculture?


jon357 70 | 19,612
9 Jul 2013 #61
Hence it doesn't matter what she is - she's still British.

Very well said. Where one's forebears came from is an irrelevance.
Nacjonalista 4 | 96
9 Jul 2013 #62
Doesn't exist.

So you don't exist. Assuming you're a real Brit not a punjab or negro.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
9 Jul 2013 #63
I know I can't expect much in the way of history from you, but you do realise that "Britain" is an artificial construct?

Very well said. Where one's forebears came from is an irrelevance.

Absolutely. Doesn't surprise me that our racist friends from across the pond are far more bothered about it than we are.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #64
Doesn't surprise me that our racist friends from across the pond are far more bothered about it than we are.

Well, if a person has nothing about themself or their achievements that they can take pride in because they are an utter failure, they might just try to take pride in things that are in no way whatsoever under their control, such as their skin colour or place of birth. It's like taking pride in the fact that one was born on a Saturday or that one has green eyes, i.e. completely retarded. One of the very few things even more retarded are the people who think that they are somehow special because of where their parents were born, the kind of utter twats who come out with things like 'Yeah! I'm awesome and better than all of you, even though I live in my parents' basement, because my father was born on a Thursday!'
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
9 Jul 2013 #65
Its nothing about supremacy. Its about survival of our people and wanting to see our children grow up surrounded by their kin. Its about love and loyality to our people and our homelands.

If I asked a South Korean if he would be happy with foreigners becoming a majority in Seoul, he would laugh in my mick face. If I asked a Chinaman if he would be happy with Chinese people becoming a minority in Beijing he would walk.away shaking is head. If I asked a Nigerian if he would be coola boola with foreigners becoming the majority in Lagos he would probably knock me out. If I asked an Israeli..... ah,you tulips get the.picture.

Outside of the western worl ethnonationalism is the norm. But if whitey says that he wants his nation and continent to remain predominantly homogenous he is a waaaaycist.

And being called a racist is up there with rodgering kids and murdering people, in the western world.
Nacjonalista 4 | 96
9 Jul 2013 #66
I know I can't expect much in the way of history from you, but you do realise that "Britain" is an artificial construct?

The people who are natives of those isles are not an "artificial construct." They are Celtic and Anglo-Saxon. Heck I'm not even a Briton and know more about your history than you.
Nile 1 | 154
9 Jul 2013 #67
Well, if a person has nothing about themself or their achievements that they can take pride in because they are an utter failure, they might just try to take pride in things that are in no way whatsoever under their control, such as their skin

There is nothing wrong with pride,it is to me simply the attitude of gratitude for the hard work and sacrifice of my ancestors. It can be used as a motivational tool to inspire people to reach beyond what they think themselves capable of.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #68
it is to me simply the attitude of gratitude for the hard work and sacrifice of my ancestors.

I assume that you also regularly cry yourself to sleep due to the shame you feel for the bad things your ancestors did.

The people who are natives of those isles are not an "artificial construct." They are Celtic and Anglo-Saxon.

Doesn't the name Anglo-Saxon suggest anything to you?
And your version of the 'natives' of GB somehow overlooks the Vikings, who've been there since the ninth century, and the Normans, who've been there for nearly a thousand years.
BBman - | 344
9 Jul 2013 #69
Firstly no one is advocating a take over by any particular race, unlimited immigration doesn't benefit anyone.

The flooding of predominantly white countries is happening! Just look at the statistics. Take the US for instance. It was more than 90% white in the 60s, in the next couple of decades whites are predicated to become the minority!

Thirdly Canada has no truck with the sort of positive discrimination you are suggesting, non whites don't like positive discrimination, it's patronising and unnecessary!

ummm what do you mean by "positive discrimination"? Are you referring to Affirmative Action? It sounds like you are. Please don't call the forced hiring of non-whites in predominantly white countries/workplaces as being POSITIVE. It's discrimination.

Affirmative Action does exist in Canada, like it does in many countries. It is not an official policy but it is happening. One only needs to work and live in this country to see for oneself who is being hired over who. It is painfully obvious.

it's not unusual to find that Asians/Chinese/Japanese/Koreans etc have better qualifications than white Canadians though.

This is true unfortunately most are not and sadly these less qualified individuals get brought into the workforce.

Finally, both Canada and the USA would collapse without the input of the various non white ethnic groups!

LOL you are delusional.

I'm still waiting for you to explain the

rather unpleasant attitudes of the white ruling class

....
goofy_the_dog
9 Jul 2013 #70
Patriotism is a lost cause in the western europe.
I am very proud of my ancestors and my fatherland.
It is good that my country is poor so the illegals are treating as a buffer zone to the uk ;-).
sobieski 107 | 2,128
9 Jul 2013 #71
I am very proud of my ancestors and my fatherland.

Is that why you live in the UK ?
goofy_the_dog
9 Jul 2013 #72
I dont see a link just a bit of trolling.
Do u think that patriots should only live in their countries? Hoe very tolerant of you Oo
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #73
It is good that my country is poor so the illegals are treating as a buffer zone to the uk

Poland isn't poor (as you might know if you'd actually been to Poland) and it's a damn sight harder to get into (and stay in) than the UK is.
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
9 Jul 2013 #74
And being called a racist is up there with rodgering kids and murdering people, in the western world.

You stated that all rather well in my opinion.
Nacjonalista 4 | 96
9 Jul 2013 #75
Doesn't the name Anglo-Saxon suggest anything to you?
And your version of the 'natives' of GB somehow overlooks the Vikings, who've been there since the ninth century, and the Normans, who've been there for nearly a thousand years.

So? They are all European.
goofy_the_dog
9 Jul 2013 #76
Harry, my english friend i am a pole born and raised.
Live in the land of shakespeare temporarily.
U dont know a lot about pl tho it seems
Nile 1 | 154
9 Jul 2013 #77
I assume that you also regularly cry yourself to sleep due to the shame you feel for the bad things your ancestors did.

There is nothing wrong in the affirmation of good values and your ancestors.
goofy_the_dog
9 Jul 2013 #78
Who cares about our ancestors all those litres of the Polish blood spilled for us to speak Polish today... It doesnt matter for Harry...

Sad
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #79
There is nothing wrong in the affirmation of good values and your ancestors.

Taking pride in achievements which are not one's own but failing to feel shame for deeds which were not one's own is as sensible as feeling pride in being born on a Saturday or having green eyes.

Who cares about our ancestors all those litres of the Polish blood spilled for us to speak Polish today.

Any Poles from years gone by who so much as stubbed their toe 'for you' would feel exceedingly hard done by. In fact, if any of the Poles who'd spilt their blood for Poland could meet the likes of you and Nacjonalista and see the shame that you bring on Poland and Poles, further blood would be spilt: yours.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
9 Jul 2013 #80
The people who are natives of those isles are not an "artificial construct." They are Celtic and Anglo-Saxon. Heck I'm not even a Briton and know more about your history than you.

Oh dear.

1. Anglo-Saxons didn't have much influence in Scotland by nature of who they actually are.
2. Modern day Scots are seen as an ethnic mix of Celts, Norwegians and Picts.
3. The concept of being "British" certainly is an artificial construct - where were they before 1603?

So? They are all European.

But being European is also artificial. Where do you draw the line at Europe, given that no-one agrees on what is European anyway?

For what it's worth, people in the UK tend to associate more to the constituent country anyway. No-one is claiming to be ethnically British except morons who didn't go to school.
Nile 1 | 154
9 Jul 2013 #81
Taking pride in achievements which are not one's own but failing to feel shame for deeds which were not one's own is as sensible as feeling pride in being born on a Saturday or having green eyes.

In your opinion.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #82
Those of us who have ever achieved anything to feel proud of tend to very much understand the stupidity of taking pride in other people's achievements.

By the way, do you take great pride in which day you were born on? You probably should, given that you at least had a tiny amount of control over that, whereas you had no control at all over what race or nationality you are.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
9 Jul 2013 #83
Europeans are a dying breed. Our birthrate is below replacement levels. Recent migrants have much more children than us. Granted by second or third generation it becomes similar to.the native birthrate. But when you have a steady stream of new immigrants having 4+ kids per family, that doesnt count for much.

When I finished school in the mid 00s there were 900 pupils. Circa 20 of them were not of native background. Now,less than a decade natives are a minority in the school. In parts of my city, natives are a minority. Its some change around and happened super quick.

Scoff all you want, but parts of Poland will go the same way. Living conditions, opportunities and the welfare state in the west are going south. If Poland keeps growing economically it shall start to look very attractive to our third world friends. And remember - your birth rate is dangerously low and a lot of young people headed off to.pastures new. You will be told the usual bolloxology - didnt Poles emigrate too. Our birthrate is too low. They will pay the pensions. Multiculturalism makes us modern. They do.the jobs the natives wont do.

You are ripe for a bit of multikulti, enrichment, vibrancy and diversity. Its what the EUnuchs want.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
9 Jul 2013 #84
They do.the jobs the natives wont do.

There's one difference : Poland has a steady stream of Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians to do those jobs.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
9 Jul 2013 #85
So what? The more the merrier for business owners. Ive heard of accession 8 nationals ,in Ireland and the UK,complaining about Romanians and Bulgarians undercutting them when they joined the EU.

Business wants a massive pool of cheap labour, one group undercutting another. Its a race to the bottom and the left cheerlead it. The left are all over the shop on immigration. They are nothing more than lapdogs for big business, slum landlords and the politicians.

There are billions of pwople in this world living on the equivalent of a dollar a day. The quangos and the left would happily fully open up our borders to them all. This is the future.
Harry
9 Jul 2013 #86
So what?

So those nations find it far easier to get residency and work permits and to learn the local language. They've got the immigrant labour market pretty much sown up and that ain't changing for a few decades.
kaz200972 2 | 229
9 Jul 2013 #87
I wasn't asked to differentiate between my nationality and my ethnic origins, legally I am British, end of, deal with it because you cannot refute or alter it!

This is untrue on 2 points..

This is your perception only, you are accusing me of stating untrue facts on purely anecdotal evidence! I hear many stories of the local Polish shop throwing out English people but I've never seen it happen, and I see many English people being served there, the owner is a good business man and wouldn't turn down the chance of present and future custom whatever the person's ethnicity, he's popular because he keeps long hours!

Having been to Canada on several occasions and having white Canadian friends and Asian relatives there, I don't see or hear about much tension. Most people are Canadian first and Jamaican/Indian/Chinese second. There are relatively few racial incidents, and although there have been attacks on ethnic groups throughout Canada's history they've been exceedingly rare in the past 40-50 years. BTW my 'white' friend frequently shops in Surrey's Chinese shops (he loves the food) and is always made welcome!!

The biggest problem with minority groups in Canada is the way the aboriginal groups are treated! Inuits and Native Indians have quite a poor deal!

White immigrants have no God given right to populate Canada. Like the USA, it is a land stolen from the indigenous population. It is totally hypocritical to shout about non white immigration when you are no more than immigrants yourself!!!

So you're telling me that China, Singapore and India have as much ethnic diversity as Canada, UK, USA and France?
Why wouldn't it be obvious to Westerners?

Yes there is a great deal of diversity in China and India, often not obvious to Western travelers, until they have spent a fair bit of time there. It's quite usual for a while at least to miss the subtle physical and cultural differences in the ethnic groups. It works both ways of course to many Indians/Africans/Chinese etc.... all whites look the same until you get used to them!

The flooding of predominantly white countries is happening! Just look at the statistics. Take the US for instance. It was more than 90% white in the 60s, in the next couple of decades whites are predicated to become the minority!

The whites nicked the USA off the aboriginal Indians you have no more right that land than an Afro Caribbean,Chinese,Hispanic,Martian etc... if you can be immigrants so can everyone else! Of course if all the whites left in deference to the true owners of the land, well then the non whites would be honour bound to leave too!

Affirmative Action does exist in Canada, like it does in many countries. It is not an official policy but it is happening. One only needs to work and live in this country to see for oneself who is being hired over who. It is painfully obvious.

I think we are both talking about affirmative action but it isn't policy in Canada. You say it's being carried out unofficially but there are non white ethnic groups who argue that Pro White affirmative action is rife! Can't say I've seen or heard of either types being common place, I have friends and family in the country and visited several times myself.

This is true unfortunately most are not and sadly these less qualified individuals get brought into the workforce.

Not quite sure what you are trying to say here. Poorly qualified people of all races enter Canada, why is a poorly qualified Jamaican more of a liability than a poorly qualified Pole? The ethnic groups I mentioned are usually well educated and by the second generation they are higher achievers than white ethnic groups both academically and technically, quite often economically too

LOL you are delusional.

No I am realistic do you seriously think the WASPS and Rednecks in the USA could run the place by themselves? they'd be too busy fighting over who was going to man the burger bars!!!!

AS for Canada, well if the white settlers could have run the country, they'd have never let the non whites in!

I'm still waiting for you to explain the

Read the History books!!!

!
nunczka 8 | 458
9 Jul 2013 #88
A little information on what could happen to Poland.
blackquillandink.com/?p=7538
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
9 Jul 2013 #89
A little information on what could happen to Poland.

Except the link you posted is pretty much factualy worthless. The unemployment rate in Detroit is around 10%, not "28.9%" as claimed.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
9 Jul 2013 #90
Under Cameron, the Brits have clamped down on welfare tourists, non citizens trying to access social housing, students who wish to study English to circumvent immigration law and those who want to join their British citizen spouse. Merkel has come out and said that she is going to do everything in her power to kerb youth unemployment and the German drawbridge is being closed up. The last time youth unemployment was so high in Germany, we know what happened. So shes going to.throw the centre right a bone, cut down on immigration, get the youth back working and placate the fears.of rising German nationalism. Switzerland, unless you are skiled, is a closed shop. Spain and Greece - Jaysus good luck if you are an obvious ethnic. Ditto for Italy. Marie La Pen and generation identity are making massive gains in Hollaindaise sauces France.

Sweden and Ireland aint doing so well, but both are pussified beyond belief and have loads of empty apartments. They may take a few.

The west of Europe is slowly but surely.closing up shop. The middle east is a mess. A billion or so rural Chinese and people from the Indian subcontinent live on arlund a dollar a day. A few regions in Africa are doing ok. Namely Botswana and Nigeria. The rest is its usual self.

There are an.awful lot of people who may gaze towards eastern and central Europe. Its like one biggy ***** just waiting to get f°cked


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