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HIV/AIDS growing in Poland - more fear of pregnancy than STDs


Atch 17 | 2,901
11 Jul 2017 #61
America is such a young country, it's beyond its comprehension how one can survive a crisis, but Europe as a continent has been through all this before in different forms. Europe has always been in turmoil of one sort or another.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,413
11 Jul 2017 #62
America is great if you want to get an education get a good job make money all that. But for cultural or family things ehh I prefer Europe. Our culture and even average incomes have been in decline lately. I love America don't get me wrong but its not the same place as it was 10 20 years ago. Even then when I went to college there was no such thing as banning white people from campus, now there is. Idk maybe I just don't get it. Back then immigrants would treat it as an escape from their land and want to settle down here permanently. Now more and more immigrants have been here a while made their money and now looking to go back home. Hell even some the Indians Columbians etc I know want to go back
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
11 Jul 2017 #63
slow the crumbling of the E.U.

What crumbling? The EU is doing just fine, no matter how jealous Americans get.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
11 Jul 2017 #64
zero chance of you getting HIV,

You are off your chump. Sexual penetration by a HIV carrier is the surest way to contract AIDS. One may contract it occasionally during dental suregry, but only rarely.

What crumbling

It is definitely coming apart at the seams. Brexit, Greece's bankruptcy, migration crisis and inability to deal with it are but a few glaring exmaples. One or two more such debacles and it will be EU IST KAPUT!
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
11 Jul 2017 #65
Sexual penetration by a HIV carrier is the surest way to contract AIDS.

Nope. Surest way to catch it is to share needles with an HIV positive person.

One or two more such debacles and it will be EU IST KAPUT!

Why would you celebrate the death of something that brought unprecedented peace to Europe?

Surely as someone who takes a keen interest in Polish history, you should be delighted that Poland is part of a safe and secure club.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,413
11 Jul 2017 #66
@delphiandomine

Actually blood transfusion followed by anal sex esp with a negative top and positive bottom. The risk for receptive anal was around 1% and apparently can get higher if taking into account only uncircumcised males which have a higher chance of spreading hiv for some reason. Sharing needles was actually in the middle/middle upper section of the list at around .6% There is plenty of articles online that list 'chance of contracting hiv by specific action' which percentage incidence rates. Like for example the chance of catching hiv by having anal sex would be .62% per x acts. The only one that had a high rate was blood transfusion all the other ones had a below 1% chance. It's actually rather hard to contract hiv as it dies in the air.

If you want I can find you that document. I believe it was published by the cdc (center for disease control).
jon357 63 | 14,149
11 Jul 2017 #67
the feather, wig and half-an-inch of makeup on the face of someone who looks like a woodcutter or ditch-digger

Remember I've met your missus

chance of catching hiv

Zero if the person is receiving modern medical treatment which results in an undetectable viral load.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
11 Jul 2017 #68
celebrate the death

Stating a fact is not necessarily its celebration. Only Poland and her Central-East European allies can effectively reform the EU away from the Brussels mega-bueaucracy model towards a voluntary confederation of autonomous national states. The 1968 mad-dog radicals of '68 (Schultz, Cohen-Bandit, etc.) are luckily passing into history. Did you know that a current survey in Poland found 64% support for PiS amongst 18-24 year olds. They are the wave of the future and their Poland is like what Trump described: God, country, family, partiotism and heritage. . Bogu niech będą dzięki!
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,413
11 Jul 2017 #69
@jon357

Very true. There are meds one can take after say having unprotected sex or a nurse who pricked her finger on a needle. Those typically have to be taken right after exposure. The highest incidence rates for hiv tend to be highest for gays in the us especially gay black men. Drug use I.e. sharing needles account for only about 10%

The meds you're referring to for hiv infected people like interferon will actually make a persons viral load basically zero. However if they stop taking it their viral load will go up immediately. Furthermore people on those meds complain that they feel like crap all the time like they have a clue.

I use to work for a medical waste company and i dealt with everyone to the corner dentist to the enormous county hospital. I wasn't responsible for taking it out but more so selling an appropriate sized service level and writing accompanying contract. I can tell you nurses and doctors were way more concerned with hepatitis c because its far more easily spread. It doesn't die after being exposed to oxygen and it can linger on a surface for weeks even a month.!
dolnoslask 5 | 2,413
11 Jul 2017 #70
Pity the meds were not around when freddy mecury got sick.
jon357 63 | 14,149
11 Jul 2017 #71
when freddy mecury got sick.

Yes, and Henry Mancini, Rudolph Nureyev, Rock Hudson, Isaac Asimov, Princess Margaret, Bruce Chatwin, Anthony Perkins, so many good and talented people.

Those who take the meds do feel like crap sometimes, though they're healthy and the meds are improving all the time.
jon357 63 | 14,149
11 Jul 2017 #72
Worth mentioning that in Poland (which had a far higher incidence of HIV than the government have ever admitted) treatment and support is usually very good.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,413
11 Jul 2017 #73
treatment and support is usually very good.

good to know
nothanks - | 640
12 Jul 2017 #74
Only time I've heard of HIV outbreak in Poland is when the African refugee infected 50+ women by claiming condoms are racist
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,413
12 Jul 2017 #75
@jon357

Asimov died from hiv? That I did not know...

Interferon and ribavirin, the most common anti hiv cocktail, makes people feel like they have the flu all the time. But people can exercise eat right etc and feel quite normal. Look at shaq that guys had hiv as long as I've been alive. In the 80s it was a death sentence. 5 10 years and you were done.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,413
12 Jul 2017 #76
@nothanks

That happens in the us quite often. There's regularly news stories about people who kmow they're infected will purposely sleep with others in the hopes of spreading it. When I was in college I remember a guy spread it to over 20 women yet only got like 4 or 8 years for it. Quite sad.
Atch 17 | 2,901
12 Jul 2017 #77
in Poland (which had a far higher incidence of HIV than the government have ever admitted)

Interesting. If you go to the HIV data breakdown on the WHO website you will see that there is column after column with 'no data' for Poland. This either means that successive governments have failed to collect the data which is criminally neglectful or they have the data and don't want to share it.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
12 Jul 2017 #78
treatment and support is usually very good

The voice of experience?
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
12 Jul 2017 #79
Rock Hudson

I had heard of him but not the rest getting AIDS. Also semi-Polonian Liberace. Any idea why so many in showbiz are homosexuals? The rate is much higher than in the overall society. Also hairdressers, fashion designers, ballet dancers and interior decorators. Do those professions attract "that kind" or do they turn normal people into homosexuals? I would presume the former is correct.
jon357 63 | 14,149
12 Jul 2017 #80
failed to collect the data which is criminally neglectful or they have the data and don't want to share it.

I suspect a bit of both.

infected 50+ women

It was fewer than that, and the women in question were aware of his hiv status. Btw, he wasn't a 'refugee'.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,413
13 Jul 2017 #81
@nothanks

Charlie sheen slept with everyone women men trannies hookers etc esp during his coke binges. Actually he paid a hookers apparently 7 figures to shut up when she should his hiv meds... Cat had to come out of the bag eventually
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
13 Jul 2017 #82
Only time I've heard of HIV outbreak in Poland is when the African refugee infected 50+ women by claiming condoms are racist

ergo...if poor nottie hasn't 'heard' of something,this means it's not true. Logical.


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