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Expats in Poland - would you fight for your new country?


Teffle 22 | 1,321
3 Dec 2010 #91
Ashley, if you are either unable or unwilling to answer the question can you stop with the obfuscating?

You don't like war/conflict, right, we get it.

It's not the point. War happens and people sometimes volunteer.
ShortHairThug - | 1,101
3 Dec 2010 #92
Which is why I said "volunteers"

Poles were always itching for a fight, during WWI there were over 3.5 million Polish nationals serving in various armies all of them foreign since Poland was not independent at the time, WWII same story. In most recent history as an example there were more Poles serving in Iraq in foreign uniform then there were Poles send there on the mission from Poland but I assume you have Spain in mind. In Spain Polish volunteers fighting on the side of anti-fascist were only second to the French in numbers.
Ashleys mind 3 | 452
3 Dec 2010 #93
Ashley, if you are either unable or unwilling to answer the question can you stop with the obfuscating?

Au contraire.

I'm simple stating that I don't think there can be any other ideological premise behind fighting another group of people.

What kind of answers you'll get will be based on what happened in the past. So if you want a definitive answer regarding what's likely to happen in the future, you might want to paint a clearer scenario?

Nag.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
3 Dec 2010 #94
I'm simple stating that I don't think there can be any other ideological premise behind fighting another group of people.

To maintain a culture/way of life/religion/political status quo or to start new ones ...plenty of reasons.

You may not think they are valid but other people do.

What kind of answers you'll get will be based on what happened in the past. So if you want a definitive answer regarding what's likely to happen in the future, you might want to paint a clearer scenario?

You're still at it I see.

Very simple hypothetical question, no scenario needed - use your imagination.

Nag.

Belligerent nitpicker.

: )
Ashleys mind 3 | 452
3 Dec 2010 #95
To maintain a culture/way of life/religion/political status quo or to start new ones

So you answered your own question...

Can I go to bed now?

Merry Christmas.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
3 Dec 2010 #96
So you answered your own question...

Nope. Not at all.

The Q was "would Poles..." not "what are the possible reasons that someone might..."

But never mind as you certainly weren't going to answer anyway.

Can I go to bed now?

Whatever you like - you're not much help on this thread anyway!

Merry Christmas.

And to you my darling : )
Trevek 26 | 1,700
3 Dec 2010 #97
you don't like your country enough to live in it but you claim you would go die for it?

Who has said they don't like their country enough to live there? the reasons some of us are abroad are many. Also, you forget that most of us have family there.
ARC 1 | 13
4 Dec 2010 #98
I have lived abroad myself so I get why people move...my point was I think MOST expats would not go back and fight because they have a better life in their new home already or else they wouldn't be there. It's bravado and nothing more in most cases...something expats seem to love to exhibit...they talk more crap about politics and social issues than the people living them every day back home and I find it annoying as hell. If they were truly THAT concerned with things they would go home and effect change...not just moan about it over dinner or on a website.
Wroclaw Boy
4 Dec 2010 #99
Depends on the circumstances.

Poland versus a world full of zombies hell yeh.

Poland versus anybody else, i doubt it just let the politicians start the war and then fight it all - on their own.
Raj_ryder 10 | 106
4 Dec 2010 #100
just let the politicians start the war and then fight it all - on their own.

Amen!!
bimber94 7 | 254
5 Dec 2010 #101
Is this the era to defend any country in wartime? Apart from the fact that modern weapons can annihilate whole cities, why bother fighting for a nation which goes to church on Sundays and nicks from you Monday to Saturday, chainsmokes, votes for lefty scumbags and gets PiSsed much of the time? I sound anti-Polish here but I'd rather see a return to the pre-WW2 integrity the Poles had for each other rather than the bunch of dickheads which abound today.
k98_man
6 Dec 2010 #102
It is called NATO "Ashley's Mind". There are no favors, but I appreciate Polish support.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
6 Dec 2010 #103
my point was I think MOST expats would not go back and fight because they have a better life in their new home already or else they wouldn't be there.

That's better put and explains it more.

Yep, I'd agree a bit more with this. Plenty of ex-pats stayed out of wars by staying put, although they may have done more to help economically or by doing publicity work (like British actors in US during war etc).

I know what you mean about ex-pats moaning. My studes were shocked when I said i wasn't voting in UK elections. I just asked, "Why? I don't live there and haven't lived there for a few years."
Harry
6 Dec 2010 #104
Poland versus a world full of zombies hell yeh.

I shall make sure to have a spare of my 28 inch titanium crowbars on hand for you.
Ashleys mind 3 | 452
6 Dec 2010 #105
It is called NATO "Ashley's Mind". There are no favors, but I appreciate Polish support.

Yes I have heard of Article 5. Not that that matters... NATO was designed to keep America in, and nearly everyone else down...

And for Poland to want to prove themselves as new members of NATO I can see the benefit in trying to gain a foot-hold in a US led war...

"Mr Truman drop the bomb
We can't bear it anymore.."

Who knows, maybe their might will be commemorated in American history books for young Americans to read in the future...?

It's still incredible how much of the NATO budget is consumed by US led security missions that take place nowhere near the North Atlantic region???


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