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Yeah....sorry to hear about such things.....I would cut his balls off if I could....

But, Paulina, such a statement smells like roadkill on a hot summer day, especially coming from someone as generalizing as you. I know there is a limit to shamelessness and arrogance, and I hope you will discover the boundaries before you face the creator.

Why don't you shut your mouth, and avoid compromising yourself further?

For crying out loud, Ptak, read the entire thread before you comment on something.

Important things were said.

I know 5 women sexually abused by family members when kids. And those are only the ones that were close enough to reveal it to others. Not one police report (old times, they were kids)
And countless girls that were smacked on the butt, grabed by their breasts etc by men in everyday life hy strange man.

Btw, I once more have to admire you courage Paulina. You rock girl and I wish I could meet you in real life!

Yes, it does. You have no idea. And it wasn't anything "severe." But once you realise that men in your family (and multiple men at that, which boggles my mind to this day) who knew you since you were born are capable of such things your whole world goes upside down.


And you didn't notice Ironside's comments about marital rape?


I think Ironside will actually double down. He will be having a field day now. I bet he'll claim that I "hate men," because of what happened to me. So to preempt that attack - no, I don't hate men. I'm an intelligent person and I know that many, hopefully majority, of men aren't like that. I'm also attracted to men and I enjoy sex and being in a romantic relationship with a man (I'm guessing it's because the abuse wasn't that "severe"). But what happened to me is probably one of the reasons why I'm going to protect and fight for other girls and women like a lioness.


Thank you. If you have kids, especially daughters, please watch them like a sentinel. Protect them, even from your family. Because, honestly, you never know. Sometimes there are no signs at all or very subtle. So treat my sad story as a cautionary tale...


They're dead, fortunately. I attended their funerals. I attended one of those funerals when I was an adult already. One of those "men" had three daughters and I remember how happy they were at the funeral reception. They were having a great time. And then it hit me - he most probably did it to them too.

....oh **** :(

I think part of the different outlook we have on all this seems to me that the man here think about those man as some kind of alien monsters while in fact they will be their pals, work collegues or family members.

Do you really believe that something like that could naturally exist in a hellish world dominated by monstrous beings known as humans? In that case, the possibility of a man enjoying the women who contribute to the PF pages is virtually nonexistent-zero, nothing at all. The only exceptions might be the lovely Atch and perhaps Rozumie Nic, due to her honesty and commitment to the truth.

Believe me it goes both ways. I would rather stay single my whoke life than find myself in one room with you.

Bobko is right.

A good man can get up, take a shower, eat breakfast, drive to the base, get into a B-29, drop a nuke on Hiroshima, watch the mushroom, smile, fly back, and say, "Honey, I am home. What's for dinner..."

I could. Knowing what these motherfvckers did to my brothers when they were POWs would help, but it would not be necessary.

The next day, I would ask my CO if I could do it again.

Don't worry, Lenka. Besides, I don't recall suggesting sharing a room with you. Not in this life or eternity.

I'm not as courageous as you think... I never told my family. At that time it didn't even cross my mind to tell them - it was that unspeakable for me (and I was around 13-years-old). Noone prepared me for this. No talks about "bad touch."

It's like I got some kind of total "brain freeze." Complete petrification. I wouldn't be physically able to speak about it. I pushed it way down to the bottom of my consciousness and "moved on". I just sometimes hunched my shoulders whenever I was around boys, because I was afraid that they would touch my breasts. It was as if my body automatically assumed that "everyone is like that." The real ramifications of what happened started catching up with me only later when I was an adult already - both psychological and physical (health problems). So, to some extent - it affects your whole life.

And, btw, it was only since the Weinstein scandal and the whole "me too" movement when I finally fully realised what those "men" were and I named them in my head as they should be called: "sexual predators."


Thank you, Lenka. I think you're a great person too! ❤️ But in real life I'm a just a quiet introvert who keeps herself to herself - noone terribly interesting or entertaining :)))


That one looked at my breasts and said: "How have you grown!" with a big, sleazy grin. That was literally the only sign he gave that there's something wrong with him. So I guess beware of men who make comments about bodies of growing girls...


Yes, one of them was a very beloved family member. Everyone loved him. I even drew a portrait of him for the funeral, can you imagine... I wouldn't even know how to break it to my family. Especially that he's dead. I know I probably should, but I can't. Nie na moje siły...

And who made you a God? I suggest you use Google more often, preferably all the time, because if you forget, idiocy as the one above happens.
But, you're the man. Kip, working on your one-handed push-up, eventually it might happen.

Had the same at 14. . At 11 was slapped in the butt by an older boy. When told him to get lost got pushed to the ground and his hand in the pants. Local psycho grabbing breasts of all the girls.... I could go on.

On the upside when my mom was slapped in the butt by her dad's friend when she was 16 the guy was thrown out of the house.


You are talking about it here when you know the backlash you may face.


Nothing wrong with being inteovert. Especially if you can handle few hours of interaction here and there for a coffee or a beer 😄

The Epstein story has Part B that nobody is talking about.

It is about how these teen girls so quickly turned into prostitutes and pimps when they saw three hundred-dollar bills per visit.

The one who killed herself did it for pimping her friends, not for sucking E's dick - an activity that is disgusting enough not to do again.

Also...I never want to hear that shlt how a woman was raped multiple times by her boyfriend...30 years ago...Yes, she stayed with him. No, she didn't report it to the police or tell anyone.

Fricken "kalmuk" is attempting to kill free speech. Boby, this is an American company, Polish Forums, not some enclave for KGB agents with huge mouths.

Torq, are you sure you understand my previous post? I fail to comprehend what was so upsetting. What did I say? Please elaborate and use acceptable language, if possible.

A couple of posts before yours, Paulina made a confession about very painful experiences from her past that still, to some extent, affect her today. And then you barged in with your "shamelessness and arrogance" accusations.

Wrong moment perhaps? No?

I disagree, she said a lot of nonsense, some ideology plus personal bitterness. That's all.

I don't know even one woman or girl who has been abused or sexually harassed in my extended family. I don't know what kind of pathology or ghetto you're hailing from.
As for ass (and not only) grabs, it happened to me in my teens and early 20s, and imagine that - women were doing it. So put it in your pipe and smoke it.
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What about it? Are you even capable of thinking? If you are married, what rape are you talking about? It's BS and illogical as well.
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In this thread you have good examples of "safe" men - men you can tell such stuff and they probably might react in the right way (Bobko, BB, Torq) and "unsafe" men who would blame you, judge you and talk sh1t about you (Novichok) or who would ignore/would be in denial or even would be likely to perpetrate the abuse themselves (Ironside):





I can't express in words what level of disgust I feel towards this Novichok creature.

Yeah, sure, my brother and cousins, for example, could say the same thing lol Because I didn't tell them what happened to me. You don't know if women or girls in your family were abused or sexually harassed. You simply don't know.


I don't understand how an adult man can be this moronic. Don't downplay it and blame it on "pathology" or "ghetto." Sexual predators live in all kinds of environments, social classes and perform all kinds of professions and can be in very high positions in the society. Former prince Andrew and the son of Norway's crown princess are good examples of this. Sexual predators live in big cities, small towns and in the countryside. In ghettos and palaces.


Thank you for writing this for everyone to see. At least I didn't have to waste my time for digging up quotes in case someone didn't believe me.
I hate sick f*cks like you. 🤮


Damn, that's traumatising... Especially for someone as young as 11... How old was that boy? Did you tell anyone?


Well, as long as there's cake or proper pizza involved... xD 🍰🍕😁😅

how would you know if they didn't tell you and why would they tell a person likely to be unsympathetic about it?

Personal EXPERIENCE. There, corrected it for you.
And if she was bitter it wouldn't be surprising.


I would be surprised if you did. For few reasons:
- a girl that would care about you even a bit would be crushed if you responded the way you did to Paulina. She woyld never admit
- judging by your post here you either wouldn't believe her or bellittled her experuence.


I know it would be rasier to believe that was the case but we are talking about 3 differen places, 4 different families with different proffesions.


If any women used force and threat of physical violence to touch your genitals against your will I'm trully sorry and that women is the same kind of sh*tbag.
However the sexual predators are mostly men.


The rape in which your partner doesn't want to have intercourse but you force them to have one.
Not to mention how would one get pleasure fron having sex with soneone who doesn't want it? Boggles my mind

A friend was with me. She got paralyzed in fear. But I managed to yell to her to go for our friends playing nearby. Then they cane in a group with big sticks the guy jumped up and I just run for my life in random direction. I never remembered his face but my friend did. She said he was going to our school. I never reported it to anyone and for years was ashamed of it.

And that's what bugs me so much... There's something wrong with the society if we feel this way and react in this way. It should be rammed into kids' heads that they should tell about such things immediately. Reporting it should be an automatic response for kids. And they should be taught that they're not the ones who should feel ashamed. It should be talked about more, because if it isn't it becomes a taboo and people are ashamed to talk about it, abused kids included...

What kind of malicious BS is that? I told you you're nasty and vicious, slanderous lies and insinuations. I never forced anyone, nor harassed sexually. WTF is wrong with you? Should I post some unsubstantiated guesses about your proclivity for being a *****?---
@Paulina
Who is moronic? People like me talk about societal rules based on moral values and a civilization that provides protection and order. In contrast, you complain that men want to enslave women and deny them their rights.

First, there are no rights other than those granted by society. Second, the unlimited personal freedom you advocate for comes with a price, which can include becoming a victim of sexual abuse. It seems you are confused, trying to have it both ways.
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You don't hate me, you're stupid. I won't hold it against you.
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Well, it is difficult to talk about issues and alleged facts we don't know about.
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I didn't write that you did. Maybe you did, maybe you didn't - I don't know. I wrote that you're "likely" to be or become a perpetrator and I'm basing this opinion of mine on your attitude towards marital rape.


You are.


I have no idea what you're talking about.


I do.


But you do that anyway. You claimed that no woman or girl was abused or sexually harassed in your family, even though you don't know that. So you're talking out of your ass.

See, we are on the same page. You simply want to be more sympathetic towards Paulina.
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I see from your post that you have a fundamental difficulty in gauging what men are like based solely on their posts here. Guess what, you are wrong; I would protect my family. I'm talking to adult strangers on the Internet. I'm not here to provide comfort or emotional support; just to exchange ideas.
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I'm a man. What force are we talking about? Apart from that, Grabs were for real. I guess the difference is, I wasn't intimidated.
Aha, once a man tried that approach on a murderer on parole, I left him crumpled on the floor. See, women are privileged; nothing happened to them.
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That is the couple's problem; why meddle? Marriage is sexual by definition; being in a marital relationship means accommodating each other.
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