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Automobiles vs. Pedestrians in Poland


teflcat 5 | 1,032
7 Jan 2012 #61
what do you do if you need to go to the neighbouring village on the same road - go through the mud of the field roads?

I'd suggest wearing a fluorescent jacket and having lights on the bike for a start. I've nearly killed several invisible cyclists and my nightmare is having to stand in a courtroom while relatives scream at me for killing their loved one. The authorities could do a lot more to improve this situation.
Harry
7 Jan 2012 #62
I've nearly killed several invisible cyclists and my nightmare is having to stand in a courtroom while relatives scream at me for killing their loved one.

If they're invisible, who's to know you hit them?
polmed 1 | 216
7 Jan 2012 #63
What the hell do you think it means?

I am waiting for your explanation, what you meant by „less organized„?

I reject your statement on the grounds that it actually doesn't make sense.

Oh dear , you may reject my statement at any time and then, you know , you may appeal LOL .

I will use a phrase "we Poles” whenever I feel I should use it and you will not change my mind by giving some mumbling about the concept of the state . Go on ,actually it is hilarious to read your opinion about jurisprudence in the aspect of theory of the state. Go on, feel free.

This subject needs more explanation , as I see that some posters have no idea about the subject and draw wrong conclusions .

It is very naive to cite a police statement about the causes of road accidents in Poland , because the police ( as you all know ) is financed from a budget ; the same financing takes place in the case of roads ( maintenance and construction ), so they ( the police ) have to obey certain policies and shed all the blame on drivers , but he truth is quite different and reveals the weakness of the state in this matter .

Poland has got the sixth largest road network system in EU , but the ratio of highways included in this system is very low , which means most of the traffic takes place on one lane roads in the same direction . That makes the most dangerous maneuver of overtaking even more dangerous as the driver has to move its car on the other side of the road with opposite traffic movement. This situation is the most dangerous and brings the most deadly consequences if this maneuver was taken wrongly.

Unless we have in Poland a vast highway system the problem of fatal accidents on Polish roads will be bigger and bigger. It is not a problem of Polish drivers but a problem to be solved by the state .

But blaming just drivers is very naïve and is only a proof of ignorance on this topic

Thanks to the very high skills of Polish drivers we have so little accidents on Polish roads.
The lasts stats conducted in 2009 show that we had only slightly over 56 000 road accidents , while Germany had 397 671 accidents . Don`t forget that their traffic is located mainly on safe highways while our on dangerous one lane roads .
Harry
7 Jan 2012 #64
Thanks to the very high skills of Polish drivers we have so little accidents on Polish roads.

Jesus wept: it's Groundhog day.
teflcat 5 | 1,032
7 Jan 2012 #65
This site is better than Benny Hill
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,441
7 Jan 2012 #66
Thanks to the very high skills of Polish drivers we have so little accidents on Polish roads.

wow, you are mad indeed:)
Harry
7 Jan 2012 #67
But blaming just drivers is very naïve and is only a proof of ignorance on this topic

Really Monia? Let's see what the Polish Road and Safety Association say: drogaibezpieczenstwo.org.pl/www/sub,pl,o-stowarzyszeniu.html

Unsafe roads and unsafe vehicles are the cause of only 10% of all accidents or collisions In Poland. The most common causes of accidents are speeding, alcohol, bravado.

Who is to blame for speeding, alcohol and bravado? Drivers.

wow, you are mad indeed:)

Madder than Mad Jack McMad, the winner of this year's Mr Madman competition.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,441
7 Jan 2012 #68
Madder than Mad Jack McMad, the winner of this year's Mr Madman competition.

my Polish friends and relatives admit on the daily basis that there are so many irresponsible and really bad drivers it Poland then comes Monia who claims that it is otherwise. Fekkign Twilight Zone I say;).

Whatever makes you happy Monia, but please never ever discuss, or attempt to discuss anything serious, which has anything to do with the loss of human life in the future.

I feel sorry for all those people who die in car crashes in Poland. Useless.
Harry
7 Jan 2012 #69
my Polish friends and relatives admit on the daily basis that there are so many irresponsible and really bad drivers it Poland then comes Monia who claims that it is otherwise. Fekkign Twilight Zone I say;).

Not that strange really: there are some Poles who always always always defend anything and everything Polish whenever a non-Pole says anything even slightly negative about the Polish thing. You know the kind I mean, the ones who say things like "Samantha Geimer was a prostitute".
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
7 Jan 2012 #70
I am waiting for your explanation, what you meant by „less organized„?

you're not about to get one, look up the term for yourself.
You can write "we Poles" all you want, that's not what I took issue with. At least be consistent with your terms e.g. "we Poles as opposed to you and the citizens of the country where you come from" and even if you did that I wouldn't feel entitled to speak for everyone else in the country where I was born. Doing so would only give your empty statements company; I prefer to leave them alone.

The lasts stats conducted in 2009 show that we had only slightly over 56 000 road accidents , while Germany had 397 671 accidents .

Even if that is true, one must ask if all accidents are reported in both countries and one should defer to accidents causing death as indicators of safety first and foremost and then serious injury and then look at all acccidents to complete the picture.

Up yours teflcat!
*shows single finger salute and drives off*
Harry
7 Jan 2012 #71
Even if that is true, one must ask if all accidents are reported in both countries and one should defer to accidents causing death as indicators of safety first and foremost and then serious injury and then look at all acccidents to complete the picture.

Or we could see what the international experts say:

Five years after Poland Joined the European Union, the country is still undergoing large scale economic and social changes. Economic growth over the past decade and increased trade have led to a rapid increase in motorisation rates and traffic.

As a result, road crash death and injury rates are also much higher than the EU average.
...

Though Poland has undergone rapid motorization in the last decade, concerted efforts of government, civil society and the private sector has led to considerable progress, with the number of road traffic fatalities decreasing by 1/3 in the last decade. In 2006, for example, there were 46,876 crashes resulting in injuries (3,7% less fewer in 2005).

Still, Poland's road crash statistics are high compared to the rest of Europe as road crashes continue to take a huge toll on Polish society and on the economy. Annual costs of road crashes are estimated at PLN 30 billion.

grsproadsafety.org/page-poland-31.html
southern 75 | 7,096
7 Jan 2012 #72
Thanks to the very high skills of Polish drivers we have so little accidents on Polish roads.

Actually I believe that.Probably it is the same with Greece.Any foreigner trying to drive in this kind of roads and these circumstances would find very hard to avoid accident.

In Poland they try to drive rather fast in narrow roads without any space for maneuver they do not slow even at corners.
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
7 Jan 2012 #73
Thanks to the very high skills of Polish drivers we have so little accidents on Polish roads.

One of the silliest and most outrageous lies I've heard in a long time. They are terrible drivers actually. Bad enough for governments to officially warn their citizens when visiting Poland.

The lasts stats conducted in 2009 show that we had only slightly over 56 000 road accidents , while Germany had 397 671 accidents

As you were told (yesterday I believe) on another thread, this is untrue. Poland has one of the highest ratios of accidents in Europe.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,441
8 Jan 2012 #74
Not that strange really: there are some Poles who always always always defend anything and everything Polish whenever a non-Pole says anything even slightly negative about the Polish thing. You know the kind I mean, the ones who say things like "Samantha Geimer was a prostitute".

I deal with such attitude on the daily basis, it is frustrating really.
southern 75 | 7,096
8 Jan 2012 #75
In the battle between automobiles and pedestrians I support the side of pedestrians.
gumishu 12 | 6,103
8 Jan 2012 #76
what do you do if you need to go to the neighbouring village on the same road - go through the mud of the field roads?

yes - this is actually a very good remark an a very good piece of adive (or even advice :)
Strzelec35 36 | 1,254
23 Apr 2021 #77
here is another question: why do they not look at pedestrians when they turn into lanes or care if they run someone over?

Would this work in Poland if one of those drivers actually hits you? what if you dont have insurance? you have to go to the hospital or how do u collect money in Poland? say ur a pedestrian and they never look as youre walking the street?

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-22/take-these-steps-if-you-get-hit-by-a-car-as-a-pedestrian-or-cyclist


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