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Polish people and racism.


johnny reb 48 | 7,120
15 Sep 2016 #871
A racist despises all races different from his own

And in Poland and America that would be ONLY White people excluding Jews that are racists according to the bigots as you describe below.

bigot tolerates all races different from his or hers, they merely don't wish to be in their company, yet will endure the experience and hold their noses

Thanks for clearing that up for us Lyzko.
Whites are racists and minorities are bigots in America and Poland.
przyjacielPL
15 Sep 2016 #872
Hi there,

I would like to say that Poles are right to be racists and scare foreigners especially muslims/africans.
They are fine in small numbers but when they take over distric, then cities : criminality increase, rape, murder burglary increase.
Also islamic people make demand : special swimming pool hours for women, halal at schools, prayer room in airport , etc ...

Multi culturalism societies are becoming slowly a living hell .
Poles hold the fort like you did against the Turks in Vienna !
jon357 74 | 22,051
15 Sep 2016 #873
I would like to say that Poles are right to be racists

No, you are wrong on that point. And people here, the educated ones and the decent people, aren't generally as primitive as you would like them to be.
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
16 Sep 2016 #874
generally as primitive as you

Just the opposite of 'primitive' jon, Poland is hip and very wise to multi cultures.
There is nothing 'primitive' about seeing what is happening in other countries of the world where 'forced' multi culture is destroying cultures and causing problems.

Poland is hip to this and want no part of destroying their culture so as far as YOU being a Brit in Poland trying to speak for the Poles with your b.s. is just that, a personal fantasy.
jon357 74 | 22,051
16 Sep 2016 #875
Poland is hip and very wise to multi cultures.

How would you know?

forced' multi culture is destroying cultures

Don't be so silly.

Very sad to see you advocating racism, but not really a surprise.
Wulkan - | 3,187
16 Sep 2016 #876
Very sad to see you advocating racism

Whenever he was doing it, it was not in the sentence you have quoted.
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
16 Sep 2016 #877
Although multi-culturalism clearly hasn't worked as planned, the fact is that civilized ADULT humans are often forced to make the best out of a less than favorable situation, and torching asylum shelters, beating up foreigners in frustration (or for sport!!), daubing hate messages on all media etc. is not something which mature, thinking people should ever be encouraged to do:-)

Always put oneself in the uncomfortable position of the minority aka migrant foreigner. They're usually just an unwitting pawn in international money games which governments have always played, among them "Here's mine, this is yours.....NOW LET'S FIGHT FOR IT!!!"

lol
mafketis 37 | 10,906
16 Sep 2016 #878
Although multi-culturalism clearly hasn't worked as planned, the fact is that civilized ADULT humans are often forced to make the best out of a less than favorable situation

So even though this philosophy has not worked anywhere at anytime people are just supposed to go along with it?

How should people let governments know that their actions are unacceptable (don't say elections - they are useless when all the major parties agree on a particular issue).

Always put oneself in the uncomfortable position of the minority aka migrant foreigner

Why? What good will that do (besides facilitating their predations against the indigenous populations)?

They're usually just an unwitting pawn in international money games

The plain fact is that Europeans have built a pretty nice continent to live in. Now, more people want to live in it than can be let in without ruining everything that makes Europe a nice place to live.

The tragedy is that many of those who want in are carrying cultural habits and values that cannot build a nice place to live. And the failed policy of multi-culturalism insists that they keep those dysfunctional values instead of adopting European ones.

They have made it very, very clear that nothing less than force will stop them in greater and greater numbers. If European govenments won't apply that force then it's going to be the indigenous populations that do.

I'm not advocating violence against migrants, just pointing out that it is the natural consequence of the current dysfunctional dynamic created by moralising idiots like Merkel and Juncker. Anyone who can't see that is either stupid or playing stupid.
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
16 Sep 2016 #879
Then it's simply being human to want to live somewhere which has been made so damnably attractive that the rest of the poorer countries, as with us plainer folks oogling at some drop-dead gorgeous female, are expected to merely gape in awe and realize that it's hands-off except for the deserving few??

Wow Maf, you sure expect a lot of restraint out there! Maybe the emerging nations should be given a forced frontal lobotomy so that their brains will be in permanent "off" mode and they won't ever have to strive for anything because they'll never know the difference, right?

Ludicrous??! Naturally! But following your arguments to their ineluctable conclusion, there's no other choice, is there?
mafketis 37 | 10,906
16 Sep 2016 #880
it's simply being human to want to live somewhere which has been made so damnably attractive that the rest of the poorer countries,..., are expected to merely gape in awe and realize that it's hands-off except for the deserving few??

I had no idea you were that cruel.

Most of Europe is not very good at creating the kinds of jobs that migrants who don't know the local language or culture very well can do. And Europe is very good at trapping third world migrants in welfare dependency so that generation after generation stagnates under the burden of being completely dependent on their hosts to not starve to death (creating bitter resentment among those trapped in welfare).

Wanting to continue this dysfunctional cycle is morally abhorrent.

You haven't given one example of how to break that terrible cycle. Unless you have real productive suggestions beyond "take them all in and support them forever" there's no point in listening to you. You're part of the problem.

But following your arguments to their ineluctable conclusion, there's no other choice, is there?

Prevention is everything. If European ships dropped migrants back on the closes non-European shore then the exodus would dry up in a hurry and maybe those trying to get to Europe would expend their efforts on improving their own countries rather than dream of living on European welfare.
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
16 Sep 2016 #881
In what way am I being cruel?

I'm merely trying to put myself, coming from the wealthy United States, in the meager position of a semi-literate Syrian migrant whose heard half their life about "beautiful Germany", then finally arrives there and is told "GO HOME"!!

Again, the real cruelty are the games that big government play by using these migrants as bargaining chips, much as with the Jews during the Middle Ages; welcome when we need ya, **** off when we don't!

It's a sick message, don't you agree?
Crow 154 | 8,996
16 Sep 2016 #882
Poles aren`t enough racist, in positive sense of that word. If they are, they would abandon EU.
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
16 Sep 2016 #883
Crow, you're talking isolationist foolishness! Remember in this global world, you can run, but you CAN'T hide.
mafketis 37 | 10,906
16 Sep 2016 #884
In what way am I being cruel?

In enabling dysfunctional patterns of behavior!

a semi-literate Syrian migrant whose heard half their life about "beautiful Germany", then finally arrives there and is told "GO HOME"!!

And what possible economic role (besides economic ward of the state) can a semi-literate Syrian fill in Germany?

I've heard about how nice the Belaggio hotel is and their promotional material clearly is inviting me to go there! If I show up and expect them to house and feed me for life they should agree to, no?
Crow 154 | 8,996
16 Sep 2016 #885
Crow, you're talking isolationist foolishness! Remember in this global world, you can run, but you CAN'T hide.

Much better to stand and defend values of own civilization, not run.
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
16 Sep 2016 #886
As an American and not a European, if said Syrian migrant were dead-set willing, ready, and able to sacrifice for their new homeland, learn the language like hell, work their tail off to acculturate and assimilate wholeheartedly, then why oughtn't the German, Polish or Swedish population be as ready, willing, and able to accept this fellow human into their fold?!

The obvious answer is that conservative, traditional societies are often too hidebound to accept change, even if the person willing to change will be a bene- not a malefactor in their midst.

As everywhere, some bad apples aka those who attacked women in Cologne last year have spoiled the entire batch and THAT, sir, is the crying shame here!!!!
przyjacielPL
16 Sep 2016 #887
to jon357 :

What does it mean racism today ?
In Western Europe if you say that you don't like indian food it can be interpreted as racism(in Uk it is the case).

If you mock non european foreign accents it is racism too.If you mock foreign european accent it is not racism.
If you say to a black person he is a primitive man because he is talking loud and using foul language in the metro, it is racism. If you say the same to a polish knacker in a bus it is fine ! You see the difference ?

In multi cultural society you can not treat the same different people. If you see a gang of polish teenagers making ruckus you can tell them to behave. But it is not the case in multi cultural society. If you see a gang of black or islamic people behaving badly in the street, will you dare to say anything ? You might get punched or knifed. Besides these gangs are in logic of intimidation of other europeans people. They are in street to prove they are superior to europeans.

In UK, gang of pakistanis were raping hundred of british girls for 10 years. Nobody say anything because accusing minorities it is racism !

Therefore polish people if you let thousands of africans/muslims in your country you will have to let you daughters being raped, you sons being scared of ethnic gangs. Protect your country now before it is too late. Protect your country from invasion.

Besides Sweden has the highest rape in the world . Do you know why ? It is because of mass immigration from Africa and Middle East. But of course it is racism to say the truth !
NoNeedForMuslim
16 Sep 2016 #888
if you know that 5 apples out of every 100 apples are poisoned with deadly substances, would you eat them?
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
16 Sep 2016 #889
Regrettable perhaps, multicultural globalization is immanent and will simply have to be absorbed by whatever enlightened, civilized means possible.

While I on occasion will condone violence, violence for example done in clear self defense, those who advocate the brutal expulsion of migrants are giving in to their basest instincts, from which we supposedly evolved!

Not every incident is either clear cut or weighed equally, you people.
przyjacielPL
16 Sep 2016 #890
Lyzko : maybe US can absorbed all muslim immigrants from Syria ?
If US is so enlightened and civilised i bet they will do. Trump seems to love them :).
Would like to be surrounded in you own neighborhood by angry muslims ?
Would like to change your way of life , tell your daughter to cover because it can provoke angy muslim ?
This is already reality for some zestern europeans (mostly poor who cannot move out).
Europe should do like Australia : send them back where they come from. Plain and simple.
mafketis 37 | 10,906
16 Sep 2016 #891
if

I had quoted more but the stupid quote limit is way too short.

The problem is that never happens in Europe (it did at one time, but no longer). Instead, that migrant is going to be encouraged to make weird demands on any German institution they come into contact with about acceptable dress and diet and then some.

those who advocate the brutal expulsion of migrants are giving in to their basest instincts, from which we supposedly evolved!

To be clear, I'm more in favor of keeping migrants out rather than expulsion. And then maybe passive expulsion by making conditions more..... European for them. No special religious-based diets (which are mostly fiction). No special clothing rules. No special holidays. No welfare for those unwilling to work (and no subsidies for children) etc.
przyjacielPL
16 Sep 2016 #892
I will give a very recent example(two days ago) about a muslim gang raping an european woman.

Three muslims algerians gang raped a french 18 years old girl near the Eiffel tower :
dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3793472/Woman-allegedly-lured-FB-gang-raped-near-Eiffel-Tower.html

Is it what you want for Poland ?
Lyzko 45 | 9,438
16 Sep 2016 #893
I actually agree, Maf! Don't even allow them in unless they pass muster. If they honestly do, then any resistance to their entry, simply because they don't "look" Nordic etc. is just plain ol' prejudice.
NowyPoster
17 Sep 2016 #894
Crow: Poles aren`t enough racist, in positive sense of that word. If they are, they would abandon EU.

Why do you tolerate such an idiot? The question is directed only at moderators.
johnny reb 48 | 7,120
17 Sep 2016 #895
Very intelligent post przyjacielPl.

Therefore polish people if you let thousands of africans/muslims in your country you will have to let you daughters being raped, you sons being scared of ethnic gangs.

And how does przyjacielPl come to this Politically Incorrect conclusion ?
Be cause he/she sees it happening in every other White country in the world where africans/muslims have immigrated to.

Is it what you want for Poland ?

Hell no, that is why I have repeatedly posted to 'Keep Poland Polish".

But of course it is racism to say the truth !

Right on the money przyjacielPL, you can't say the truth because they now call the truth being Politically Incorrect which makes you one of their guilt words like "racist" or "bigot".

Sweden will be the first country to fall, mark my word.
Good post przyjacielPL.
Dreamergirl 4 | 273
17 Sep 2016 #896
And reverse your argument Johnny and see what's happening in England now, people are taking that out against the poles
Crow 154 | 8,996
17 Sep 2016 #897
Why do you tolerate such an idiot? The question is directed only at moderators.

Considering that question isn`t directed at me, i don`t have comment.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
17 Sep 2016 #898
Crow "Considering that question isn`t directed at me, i don`t have comment."

But I do , Just ignore him Brat, you do make a contribution, more so than some of he other idiots on here. as a non pole but a very friendly a close neighbor you have every right to join the debate.
Crow 154 | 8,996
17 Sep 2016 #899
i know. As a Serbian i am 300% Polish. Its all proved in history.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
17 Sep 2016 #900
" i am 300% Polish. Its all proved in history."

200% more than me that;s cool.


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