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Polish people and racism.


Lyzko 45 | 9,346
19 Aug 2016 #751
In truth, there is no collective guilt! However, historical precedent is the determining factor here, and the Holocaust is considered a sui genre, a singular event, both ideologically as well as physically, of such cataclysmic proportions that heretofore established guidelines of criminality must momentarily be suspended, as must any or all LEGAL considerations of what may be deemed "just" retribution:-)
Ironside 53 | 12,363
19 Aug 2016 #752
@Lyzko that BS!
Law into itself, privileges, unique position based on assumed righteousness, victimhood and so forth. WTF? That is plain and simple immoral, unlawful extortion based on self-justification, self-centered arrogance of demands that every robber assumes masking his real motivation - greed.

Phew!
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
19 Aug 2016 #753
Who's talking "victimhood"? You use a lot of words, but do you understand what they mean? Use simpler language:-) You meant to say, "many Jews feel perhaps a need for victim status." This is something different from victimhood, implying to an English native speaker, that the Jews or others CHOSE their ultimate and tragic status, instead of it being foisted upon them.

Go and look up some of the more difficult vocabulary in your dictionary before you seek to criticize my postsLOL

Furthermore, there's nothing false about any of my above statements, that is, if you choose to know the history of Europe! Since when is there a statue of limitations on mass murder?! The Armenians also are contesting this, even today, almost one-hundred years hence.
Ironside 53 | 12,363
19 Aug 2016 #754
Who's talking "victimhood"?

You!
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You use a lot of words, but do you understand what they mean?

No, I'm groping in darkness and chose random words. In fact I'm only hitting random letters on my keyboard without being quite aware what the hell I'm doing. If those random letters coincidently form words and sentences that make any sense at all. That I tell you brother is a bloody miracle!

Is it too much to ask to stop that idiocy of yours? I don't care if you mock me for my English in every second post addressed to me. However asking me if I understand meaning of words I'm using is such a low pettiness that is outright stupid. I understand that you are a petty, resentful, envious, little, self-hating man who is not that smart...but...

enough is enough! Bud, grow up!
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the Jews or others CHOSE their ultimate and tragic status

Are you implying that status of the Jews nowadays is TRAGIC? Maybe you're talking about history? If you do, I need to remind you that people who in 1939 have been ten years old, are 97 today if they're still alive. Not many of them left anyway. What are you talking about? Are you talking about generation born after the war in their 70', 60' and 50'. Pry tell what tragic status have been bestowed upon them?

Not to mention all those whose people whose grandparents or parents never left America.
Maybe you are talking about those Jews created Israel. Is existence of Israel such a tragedy?
Grow up!
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Since when is there a statue of limitations on mass murder?!

Falsehood dear Lzyko are your claims. Your shameless or ignorant digs at Poland as alleged perpetrator are nothing but lies and slander.
I have told you many time if you have facts, data and proof bring it on. If not shut your trap!
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
20 Aug 2016 #755
It's always easy to attack other, rather than look at the truth:-)

A final thought, Ironside. If what I posted was so ludicrous, as you and several others have suggested, why become so exercised over it? Methinks thou protesteth too much:-) It looks to me from what you've written that maybe, just maybe, you're projecting a little, huh?
Ironside 53 | 12,363
23 Aug 2016 #756
It's always easy to attack other, rather than look at the truth:-)

Am I attacking you? No at all. I have asked you to present facts, data many times. How asking for facts and data is attacking anyone?

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Methinks thou protesteth too much:-)

Kudos to you and your thought process. I understand that if someone talks crap about you to your face. Would repeat it many time, you would just smile.

Do you try to sell me that nigga?
nothanks - | 633
23 Aug 2016 #757
meanwhile in Multicultural land


  • ESPN.com

  • Poor Germans
Wulkan - | 3,203
23 Aug 2016 #758
How asking for facts and data is attacking anyone?

If you're progressive liberal you're always a victim of some sort of attack, get used to it.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
23 Aug 2016 #759
Ironside,

Your messages to me are so full of inaccuracies, misstatements, and missunderstandings, I don't even know where to begin!

If you have something intelligent and grammatically correct to post, by all means do so:-) Other than that, please SPARE US!!
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
23 Aug 2016 #761
How right you are, Dreamergirl!

The problem with the entire thread is that there appear to be those here who willingly, if not gladly, fess up to Poland's problem with xenophobia, while too many others do not, and don't even try:-)

After I assert that while Poland doesn't have a monopoly on racism, it nonetheless has though a serious problem dealing with it, to throw back in my face "Oh, you Jews are always complaining!!! What about what your country did to their Native Americans??!", is unacceptable. The two situations are apple and oranges.
Wulkan - | 3,203
23 Aug 2016 #762
Your messages to me are so full of inaccuracies, misstatements, and missunderstandings, I don't even know where to begin!

More like you don't have any valid argument to say so all you do is your "I too" English trying to look intelligent but we all know you're not so why bother?
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
23 Aug 2016 #763
There you go projecting again:-)

Racism is a two-way street, in Poland as elsewhere! Nonetheless, it's NOT justifiable by anyone who calls him or herself a Christian. It's a most regrettable manifestation of the all too human spirit!!

Guess that's why there are so many churches out there; people need to pray a lot for forgiveness. I hope you do.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone! When d'ya wanna start throwin'?
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
23 Aug 2016 #765
If so, a sad commentary indeed!
Dreamergirl 4 | 273
23 Aug 2016 #766
People on here are nasty to each other too
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
23 Aug 2016 #767
...But that's for other reasons:-)
nothanks - | 633
24 Aug 2016 #768
> Institutionalized racism by our ally

The State University of New York at Binghamton (SUNY-Binghamton) is offering a training class titled "StopWhitePeople2k16," to instruct residential assistants (RAs) on how to deal with "uneducated" people who don't believe in ideas like white privilege.

Read more: dailycaller.com/2016/08/23/taxpayer-backed-school-holds-lesson-on-how-to-stop-white-people/#ixzz4ICWbxxDm
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
24 Aug 2016 #769
I read the article and fail to see its relevance to our discussion. Slow-witted as I may well be, the article looks as though there is allusion to some double standard regarding ignorant white people who believe themselves to be privileged.

While I can't speak for Poland, I can speak for the US, where race is above all very much tied to class distinctions, perhaps a great deal more than in socialist-leaning countries such as Germany, France, or Sweden etc.

For every poor, disenfranchised, white Trump supporter (usually lumped into one category), there are just as many rich, frustrated white Trump supporters who feel equal frustration with the perceived failures of liberalism, only for very different reasons:-)

It seems to me that the article is polarizing groups by stigmatizing "poor whites" (in the South, "poor white trash") as necessarily all racists or bigots, whereas bigotry and racism extend beyond every social class and ethnicity.

Seems as though you're trying to provoke a hypocritical counter-argument, nothanks.

Moreover, education in itself is not always a condition for tolerance or enlightenment! Look once again at Nazi Germany, where it was the educated "elite" who supervised the extermination process, initiated the sinister campaign of propaganda, and lent their perverse skills to the highest levels of the regime etc.
Wulkan - | 3,203
24 Aug 2016 #770
there are just as many rich, frustrated white Trump supporters

What about black Trump supporter? don't be racist and don't discriminate them.
mafketis 36 | 10,694
24 Aug 2016 #771
don't discriminate them.

"don't discriminate against them."

"discriminate someone" is incorrect.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
24 Aug 2016 #772
Spot on, Maf:-)

@Wulky,

In today's New York Times, according to the article I read, blacks are ever wary of Trump's supposed "minority outreach" attempts!!

Most informative.
Wulkan - | 3,203
24 Aug 2016 #773
In today's New York Times, according to the article I read

Why do you think we care what biased news paper writes?
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
24 Aug 2016 #774
And, Mr. Expert on US newspapers, I'm almost afraid to inquire as to what YOU'D recommend in its place?? "USA-Today", "The New York (Com-)Post" or perhaps even one of countless free newspapers for the semi-schooled masses???!

Seriously, what have you against literate reporting? I see, because it's reported from a left-wing perspective, it therefore must be bad??

Although "educated" doesn't necessarily mean "enlightened" (as I posted the other day), at least it's a start:-)))
Try it some time, Wulky, you might be in danger of learning something! LOL
johnny reb 47 | 6,795
24 Aug 2016 #775
what biased news paper writes

it's reported from a left-wing perspective, it therefore must be bad

He didn't say that it was bad, he said that the N.Y.T. is a bias newspaper in which it is.
It is bias in support for Progressive Left Liberal Jew reporting.
Wulkan - | 3,203
25 Aug 2016 #777
And, Mr. Expert on US newspapers, I'm almost afraid to inquire as to what YOU'D recommend in its place?? "USA-Today", "The New York (Com-)Post"

Neither of those, if you only know biased information sources then you indeed have nothing to choose from. In this case, keep on reading NYT, if you're unable to think on your own, they will help you with it.

Seriously, what have you against literate reporting?

I have nothing against it, what that has to do with NYT though?

I see, because it's reported from a left-wing perspective, it therefore must be bad??

Biased is the word.

Try it some time, Wulky, you might be in danger of learning something!

You're certainly not in danger of learning anything when sitting in your progressive bubble.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
25 Aug 2016 #778
Johnny's anti-Semitism is surfacing once again:-)

What if I were to say I don't like your W.A.S.P. thinking? By the definition of prejudice, wouldn't that be equally "biased" thinking??!

You don't make sense (..except to yourself).
johnny reb 47 | 6,795
25 Aug 2016 #779
anti-Semitism is surfacing

Not at all, it is used by you Liberals for a cop out just like the words bigot and racism is by you.
You have worn them out so no one even pays attention to them anymore.

I don't like your W.A.S.P. thinking

That is obvious however you are entitled to your opinion.

You don't make sense

Oh I make more sense then you can handle.
At least I don't keep repeating myself like you do with your shallow retorts.
You can't handle the truth is what your problem is.
Lyzko 45 | 9,346
25 Aug 2016 #780
Referring to a newspaper such as the Times as "Jewish" is by ANY definition, labeling and bigotted:-)

By admitting you have a deficit, in this case, with seeing the truth, is the first step on the (long!!!) road to recovery and self-analysis.

You and several others here are truly in danger of learning something and improving your badly warped world view.

The difference between America and a country such as Germany, is that America today picks and chooses which of her citizen she decides to save, money being the unabashed criteria. Germany continues to view ALL of her citizens as worthy of saving, rich or not (since in a socialist democracy, the gap, although there, is never as great as in the US, Russia, or China).

Voting for Trump is not the death of business as usual, but the death of everyone who's not like Trump or his kind. The naive electorate still doesn't get that, even at this late date.

Well, at least Hill's comfortably ahead in the polls.


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