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Polish people and racism.


dolnoslask 6 | 2,935
14 Aug 2016 #721
"that what makes us human (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) is most relished:-) A lesson for us all!!"

Yes I would agree, we should remain safe but not turn our backs on those in genuine need no matter their race or creed, Amen
Polonius3 994 | 12,367
14 Aug 2016 #722
our country is 99% mono-racial

That isn't all bad. Especialyl when one considers the race riots taking place in America and open season on white cops. Multi-culti in some countries is a fact of life but it is not some mythical goal that should be striven for in countries where it does not exist. The more consensus, the more things people have in common -- race. nationality, language, religion -- the better chance for peaceful development.
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
15 Aug 2016 #723
Hatred is not nature, but nurture.

Let that be your thought for the day!

Ditto, dolno:-)
jamshaid 2 | 20
15 Aug 2016 #724
Sorry to say I also feel as a foreigner that poles are much recist some time hurt feelings.
Wulkan - | 3,203
15 Aug 2016 #725
Are we? Ok, so why don't you just go to the place where people are not racist and your problem is solved.
johnny reb 49 | 7,098
17 Aug 2016 #726
Polish people are not racists because of White Polish culture or White Christianity.
The problem is that Black culture and Muslim culture has evolved into an unfixable and crime ridden mess.
They do not want to change their culture or society to acclimate and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior.
They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design not because of the racism of others but by their own hatred of Non Blacks and Christians.
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
17 Aug 2016 #727
The basic content of what you state has a sad element of truth, the overall packaging of said content leaves much to be desired:-)

If only to be "fair", would not the Muslims, Asians and other "non-white Christians" react with similar bile if the proverbial tables were turned and White Christians invaded their lands and culture without being willing to adapt both linguistically as well as culturally? Or maybe you feel their feelings are unjustified or unimportant, since "we" are doing them a favor by proselytizing OUR beliefsLOL

Therefore, your premise is based upon a double standard!
johnny reb 49 | 7,098
17 Aug 2016 #728
if the proverbial tables were turned

Do you see White Christians invading Muslim countries demanding their Biblical Law supersede Sharia Law ?
Do you see White people robbing and looting and rioting every time they need a new flat screen t.v. ?
That word "if" of yours is meaningless Lyzko because that "if' never has or ever will happen because White people are civilized.

sad element of truth

That Is the sad element of the truth Buddy.
nothanks - | 633
17 Aug 2016 #729
Why Slovakia won't embrace migration

Unlike Western European democracies with colonial histories, Slovakia has never been exposed to cultural exchanges with the rest of the world. "We are a small and ethnically homogeneous Christian nation," Blaha says. "If multiculturalism is failing in places like Paris and Brussels, why should we try it here?"
mafketis 37 | 10,898
17 Aug 2016 #730
I agree with the rejection of "multiculturalism" but Slovakia is not ethnically homogeneous. Around a quarter or so of the population are ethnic hungarians (and knowledge of the language is still widespread in the south). There's also a couple hundred thousand gypsies (so they already have an economically undeperforming underclass, no need to import a new one). And almost all slovak adults are passive bilinguals who effortlessly understand Czech.

This is not a monocultural place. They know the difficulties of different ethnic groups living together and are not keen on increasing those difficulties.
nothanks - | 633
17 Aug 2016 #731
Hillary last month: "We white Americans need to do a better job of listening when African-Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers you face everyday. We need to recognize our privilege and and practice humility, rather than assume our experiences are everyone's experiences."

Hillary's VP last week: "think the burden is on those of us who are in the majority - Caucasians. We have to put ourselves in a place where we are the minority."
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
17 Aug 2016 #732
Guess the Crusades, the Spanish Conquests of Latin America and the Inquisition were all done by "civilized" white people, eh?

Seems you fail to grasp the meaning of the word, my friend!
Polonius3 994 | 12,367
17 Aug 2016 #733
civilized" white people

Just goes to show what happens to potentially noble ideas like the Crusades (to liberate the Holy Land from pagans) when greedy men put their dirty paws on it and twist everything to justify their greed. The Teutonic Knigths also claimed they were spreading Christianity when they performed genocide on the original Baltic Prussians and even stole their name.
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
17 Aug 2016 #734
What the Teutonic aka "Livonian" Knights and their sort were spreading was fear, violence, and cruelty:-) All done in the name of Christianity. So many of us blindly accept evil without questioning whether or not a better way were possible.

Something wrong here?
Wulkan - | 3,203
17 Aug 2016 #735
apart from you writing off topic nothing wrong here
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
17 Aug 2016 #736
Off topic?? Racism and Poland ARE the topic, pal! If you see nothing wrong with rationalizing plunder and murder in the name of a G_d who supposedly represents love, you have a couple of screws loose aka you're crazy!

You been sniffin' the "funny stuff" or just trying to get my goat like always?
:-)
Polonius3 994 | 12,367
17 Aug 2016 #737
blindly accept evil

Today it is Islam that is beheading, attacking and engaging in mass terror in the name of Allah. Christians are the prime victims in the Middle East, Asia and Africa.
Wulkan - | 3,203
17 Aug 2016 #738
You been sniffin' the "funny stuff" or just trying to get my goat like always?

more off topic craap
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
17 Aug 2016 #739
Pity too more Americans don't recognize the difference between Coptics and Muslims (who came to Egypt AFTER the former).
lol

@Wulky, I can tell. Stay off that junk, will ya? It's affectin' your brain!
johnny reb 49 | 7,098
18 Aug 2016 #740
Hillary's VP last week: "think the burden is on those of us who are in the majority - Caucasians. We have to put ourselves in a place where we are the minority."

Cool, turn the table you mean ?
You mean the Whites should start shooting Black cops and start rioting and burning down stores.
I need a new flat screen and cell phone so just smash the store windows in and go take them.
How do I get my free foodstamp card ?
NO ! the burden is on the Blacks to teach and practice some manners and respect by start following the laws and getting a J.O.B.

Pants Down, Hands Up !
Why do I "have to" put myself in such a place to understand the problem.
This has NOTHING to do with racism.
Racism is just a convenient guilt word for the losers to use for a cop out.

Something wrong here?

apart from you writing off topic nothing wrong here

Thank you Wulkan but you ain't gonna get it through his screw loose head so I just figure if his racist posts aren't going to be binned then I should have an equal chance to post my take on it.

Coptics

What do Zion Etheopian Coptics have to do with American negroes ? LOL
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
18 Aug 2016 #741
In fact, Johnny, the word "Copt" is Ancient Greek for "Egyptian", therefore "Coptic Christian" is like saying "He's an Egyptian Christian."

The plain and simple truth for the zillionth and first time is that racism is NEVER relative, and yet, racism does not exist in a vacuum. If black people had not been brought to America as slaves, but instead had come here out of their own FREE will and decided to settle in the New World, you and I wouldn't be having this discussion, as there wouldn't have been any such issue.

However, to let ourselves as Whites off the hook by rationalizing white police officers mistreatment of blacks as merely acting in self defence, refuses to take into account the fact that for over one-hundred-and-fifty years, black people WERE severely discriminated against, lynched and mistreated shamefully.

Problem remains that the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction. But blacks avenging black deaths on white officers is not the case of one fine morning African-Americans waking up and saying, "Yo, y'all! Let's kill whitey!" The origin of such is sinfully that after the Civil War, all too often, the white man saw any reason to cry out "My brothers, less git the nigguh!!

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
:-)

It was in the end Church teaching which demonized Jews, in Poland, as elsewhere throughout much of Christian Europe!
nothanks - | 633
18 Aug 2016 #742
But blacks avenging black deaths on white officers is not the case of one fine morning African-Americans waking up and saying, "Yo, y'all! Let's kill whitey!"

> the "Knockout Game"

Sometimes targeting the elderly. Some of these individuals died
johnny reb 49 | 7,098
18 Aug 2016 #743
is like saying "He's an Egyptian Christian

I said, ZION Ethiopian Coptic's.
Ethiopian Jews in Israel are immigrants and descendants of the immigrants of the Beta Israel communities of Ethiopia, who now reside in Israel.
Zion Ethiopian Coptic's live in Jamaica.

If black people had not been brought to America as slaves,

You mean if the Black slave traders would not have brought their own people to America to be sold as slaves.

black people WERE severely discriminated against

"Were" is the key word here and SINCE have been given every break in the world only to flush it down the toilet.

They do not want to acclimate as American citizens, they want the world handed to them and vote for a living.

all too often, the white man saw any reason to cry out "My brothers, less git the nigguh!!

Yup, the Democrats started the KKK.
Ironside 53 | 12,424
18 Aug 2016 #744
If black people had not been brought to America as slaves,

I have got solution for that, ?If any black person in America believe that he is entitled to a compensation or a special treatment because of his ancestors being brought to /America as slaves. He should get it. A one way ticket to a country of his choosing in a great continent of Africa.

as Whites off the hook by rationalizing white police officers mistreatment of blacks

What police officers? Name names. Are you suggesting that ALL white police officer are racist? That racist!

for over one-hundred-and-fifty years, black people WERE severely discriminated against, lynched and mistreated shamefully.

Hey, that history. Its gone. Do you suggest that they should have the right to rape, kill and loot because their ancestors where mistreated?
Nobody own us a living. That sense of entitlement is sick. Good there are black people who do not buy into that kind of nonsense.

Problem remains that the pendulum has swung in the opposite directi

No, the problem is that criminal and racist behavior is encouraged by some circles that build their political capital on it. Not to mention votes.

But blacks avenging black deaths on white officers

They are avenging nothing., ~They are thugs and a vile career criminals who are justifying their deeds by BS arguments handed over to them by processional race baiters. Who would have to look for a real job if those criminals would have been dealt with swiftly.

The origin

Of that BS is in the 60' when all civic movements have been taken over by the Democratic party who paid to get black votes. They used affirmative action and other many handouts to ensure that black voters stay with them.
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
18 Aug 2016 #745
Both you and Johnny clearly are unrepenitent ignoramuses who understand neither history nor the principles of cause and effect:-)

The past is ALWAYS present, to EVERYBODY except the ignorant and uninformed!! If you were severely mistreated you wouldn't recover or rebound any too soon, and if you claim the opposite, then you're either a liar or a PR flim-flam artists, 'cuz this idea that everyone is where they are by choice and that the past in behind us is nothing more than advertising bamboozle, nothing more, nothing less.
nothanks - | 633
18 Aug 2016 #746
Yup, the Democrats started the KKK.

I watched 'Hillary's American' a couple weeks ago. Most of the film is explaining the history and evolution of the Democratic Party. I recommend for all to watch

The past is ALWAYS present, to EVERYBODY except the ignorant and uninformed!! If you were severely mistreated

It is one thing to be aware of the past but another to be held captive by it. For example it would be counter-productive for me to mistreat current day Germans because of the past

The bigger problem is integration. For example the term African-American. How many blacks in America
- were born in Africa
- stepped foot on Africa in their lives
- speak an African dialect

Yet they continue to refer to each other as Africans. The term African-American was born out of slavery, so it will always default to slavery. Whether justified or used for pandering. USA will always have this disgruntled population until they decide to personally wise up. USA never had to free the slaves. USA never had to give blacks voting rights. White Americans GAVE blacks these rights. No foreign nation stepped in and forced USA to evoke these changes.

In the West, we have gone way past the stage of coming to grips with our past. It is now used against us. Why are Westeners naive enough to fall for this self-punishment?
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
18 Aug 2016 #747
No one wants to be imprisoned by their past, yet the nature of certain crimes unfortunately is such that eternal imprisonment may be the only "punishment" for both the former perpetrators as well as, regrettably, their offspring (if any), short of physical incarceration or capital punishment.

Eichmann's son Manfred was a child at the time, obviously NOT a perpetrator, yet the latter bears the social responsibility for ensuring that the misdeeds of his father are never repeated and that the cruel lesson from that history never come to pass again:-)

Poland never quite went through the sort of "Vergangenheitsbewaeltigung" during the post-War era as did Germany, particularly the former West Germany! Like Austria, Poland was able for years to almost fob off guilt onto her equally culpable neighbors.

To this day, as we can see from reactions right here on PF, Poland still has a ways to go in internalizing her past anti-Semitism. From the vulgar invective, lashing out at others who call them on their past, this hasn't yet happened...and isn't likely to for quite some time!
TheOther 6 | 3,674
18 Aug 2016 #748
The bigger problem is integration. For example the term African-American.

Well, why are whites called "Caucasian" here?

eternal imprisonment may be the only "punishment" for both the former perpetrators as well as, regrettably, their offspring

Careful! That would imply that there is someone out there who has a keen interest in punishing the offspring of the perpetrators even generations after the crime. You can't hold a young white American responsible for slavery, and you also cannot blame a young German or Austrian for something that happened 70+ years ago. There is no collective guilt.
reiki - | 1
19 Aug 2016 #749
average IQ in europe:

Your IQ map has nothing to do with science. Richard Lynn has been at the forefront of scientific racism. Leon Kamin stated that "Lynn's distortions and misrepresentations of the data constitute a truly venomous racism, combined with the scandalous disregard for scientific objectivity."
mafketis 37 | 10,898
19 Aug 2016 #750
Your IQ map has nothing to do with science

Actually comparative IQ results (esp in first world, it's trickier elsewhere) are about the most enduring and robust scientific findings in the social sciences (that is they are replicable unlike many most social science findings).

The fact that the results do not make for happy fairytales is a separate issues.


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