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POLISH MYTHS - let's debunk or prove them!


zetigrek
3 Aug 2010 #31
but they haven't really experienced others enough yet

Seanus I was always wondering how many hours kids spend in school in your country?
When I was in liceum I found it nearly imposible to be good at all of 14 subject I was obligated to attent... 14!

List of subject in my liceum:
1 polish
2 english
3 german
4 maths
5 phisics
6 chemistry
7 biology
8 history
9 knowledge about society (WOS)
10 geography
11 computer science (informatyka)
12 cultural knowledge (WOK)
13 phisical education (W-F)
14 business basics (podstawy przedsiębiorczości)
15 civil defence course (przysposobienie obronne)
16 latin language (this one was obligatory in my school, but other schools dont offer such classes)
17 religion/ethics (this one is not obligatory)

Of course not every of those subject is lectured in every year of school. But averagely there are 14 subject to pass each year. Every day lessons last 7-8 hours! (e.g. from 7.25 - 14.50 or 8.15 - 15.35) If I'd like to learn really thoroughly every subject... I would have no life! Its for genius only. And the teachers know that, that's why they are not strict if they know that a student don't need a subject for finishing exams...
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
3 Aug 2010 #32
continual Polish German antipathy.-Myth

it was not always in existence, disregarding the 20th century there was a bit of amenity during some historical periods between the two. Poles were more often in conflict with the Russians.

take German settlement fro example, the other day i came across this group, the Walddeutsche, who settled in what is now the Subcarpathian Voivodeship.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walddeutsche
zetigrek
3 Aug 2010 #33
continual Polish German antipathy.-Myth

Do you know the legend about Wanda who didn't want to marry a German knight? Heh, the is from XII century...
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
3 Aug 2010 #34
Yes i do, when did this myth come about?

Because during the period in question nationality was very weak, and amongst the nobility practically nonexistent, they all spoke Latin in any case.

clip about Germans in Poland.

youtube.com/watch?v=stLdXx4HqCI

Mind you i do recall some king executing people, mostly Germans who did not speak the language at one stage because he taught them to be spies.
Stu 12 | 515
3 Aug 2010 #35
Highly contentious, but I'll give it a try anyway (at the peril of being cursed at):

Fact:

Polish drivers are among the worst drivers in Europe.

** ducking my head **
OP FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
3 Aug 2010 #36
zetigrek wrote:

actually I have never seen hear any critics of polish education on PF besides me... Who else critisize it?

well, that's surprising.

i'm not going to start running through PF and posting names (several reasons for that) but i see it constantly.

Seanus wrote:

Besides, it's not much use when there are bills to be paid and you can't find a suitable job with what you have.

which has to make you question the educational system itself.

there is also a matter of perspective that needs to be considered here as well. educated, ok, intelligent/clever/smart......maybe a different story.

how "educated" is a native born Pole with a Ph.D. in "Polish Philology".....
convex 20 | 3,928
3 Aug 2010 #37
Polish drivers are among the worst drivers in Europe.

Nothing contentious about that. 99% of Poles will probably agree with you right off the bat, about half of those with a look of pride.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
3 Aug 2010 #38
How many hours? Hard to say, maybe 40 hours a week. We don't believe in cramming way too much into people. Give the foundations and give them the skills necessary for them to flourish at university.
Stu 12 | 515
3 Aug 2010 #39
with a look of pride

How can you be proud when over 5.400 people get killed on the roads every year (that amounts to about 15 per day!)? 180.000 drivers a year get caught for drink driving (I drive quite a lot on PL-roads and I've never been stopped, so I shudder to think about the real figure)?

Strange to be proud of that ... :-S
convex 20 | 3,928
3 Aug 2010 #40
Number 1 in traffic fatalities
focus on the first half, ignore the second...
Ironside 53 | 12,422
3 Aug 2010 #41
Every nation have myths - and I mean every even glorious USA is built on myths big time - fuzzy!
Harry
3 Aug 2010 #42
how "educated" is a native born Pole with a Ph.D. in "Polish Philology".....

Overly.
OP FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
3 Aug 2010 #43
a savvy Executive Vice President once sat in front of a job candidate and saw on his resume that he "had 10 years' experience", whereas the VP then went on to ask, "so, do you have 10 years' experience, or 1 years' experience ten times...?"

I've also seen carpenters that can hammer a 3 inch nail clean into a 2x4 in one stroke, yet another carpenter do it in 5 strokes....

Harry wrote:

Overly.

let's remember the way i framed that question......but with that said, if they are "Overly" educated, exactly what are they qualified to do? i don't know about you, but a Polish person being "Overly" educated in........Polish.......tits on a turtle.

Ironside wrote:

Every nation have myths - and I mean every even glorious USA is built on myths big time - fuzzy!

i'd love to hear some Ironside, ole' buddy ole' pal!
POLENGGGs 2 | 150
3 Aug 2010 #44
Polish is all a victim nation, maybe even the Chosen nation

ooo wait, this is the myths section?

Polish people never steal
Ironside 53 | 12,422
3 Aug 2010 #45
i'd love to hear some Ironside, ole' buddy ole' pal!

well, its not right thread isn't it?

But Founding Fathers - they role and real people behind mystical masks !
- oppression by the British
- reasons of the American Revolution
Generally misty down of the glorious republic !
there - have some ....

Polish is all a victim nation,

huh ? what does it mean ?
Harry
3 Aug 2010 #46
if they are "Overly" educated, exactly what are they qualified to do?

Perpetuate the existence of their kind.
pgtx 29 | 3,145
3 Aug 2010 #47
i'd love to hear some Ironside, ole' buddy ole' pal!

lets stay on topic... ;)
POLENGGGs 2 | 150
3 Aug 2010 #48
huh ? what does it mean ?

you get shat on by the british when you're in need, then you go help them like idiotic indians fighting for the liberation of india from the british on hitlers side , you get flattened by the might of the Blitzkrieg with your inferior 'army' , you then roll along with the Russians, after which you betray them

all the while complaining that its ALL THEIR fault, never a Pole to blame.....

no wonder there's such a thing as Polack jokes
OP FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
3 Aug 2010 #49
Ironside wrote:

But Founding Fathers - they role and real people behind mystical masks !
- oppression by the British
- reasons of the American Revolution
Generally misty down of the glorious republic !
there - have some ....

i do not understand a single word of that.

Harry wrote:

Perpetuate the existence of their kind.

i'd file that one under, "non-answer". par for PF.
zetigrek
3 Aug 2010 #50
a savvy Executive Vice President once sat in front of a job candidate and saw on his resume that he "had 10 years' experience", whereas the VP then went on to ask, "so, do you have 10 years' experience, or 1 years' experience ten times...?"

I've also seen carpenters that can hammer a 3 inch nail clean into a 2x4 in one stroke, yet another carpenter do it in 5 strokes....

so?

let's remember the way i framed that question......but with that said, if they are "Overly" educated, exactly what are they qualified to do? i don't know about you, but a Polish person being "Overly" educated in........Polish.......tits on a turtle.

If you know polish I have very funny video which would be the best answer for your comment. Its really clever, as i heard many times "why do I have to learn all that stuff? I won't need it in my future work!"

youtu.be/DWuM9s4_wN4
southern 74 | 7,074
3 Aug 2010 #51
Another common myth is that Jesus came from Poland.
zetigrek
3 Aug 2010 #52
No its true! I knew Jesus he was attending with me to school! ;)
OP FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
3 Aug 2010 #53
Zetigrek wrote:

so?

give me a minute, i know a great video to explain all this......

southern wrote:

Another common myth is that Jesus came from Poland.

why yes, Jesus is a common myth.
Ironside 53 | 12,422
3 Aug 2010 #54
i do not understand a single word of that.

I'm not surprised! To make is simple - most stories about American Revolution are myths !
zetigrek
3 Aug 2010 #55
give me a minute, i know a great video to explain all this......

i'm still waiting...
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,437
3 Aug 2010 #56
most stories about American Revolution are myths !

which ones? Is it because you consider historical facts as myths?;)
Ironside 53 | 12,422
3 Aug 2010 #57
which ones?

find out yourself - you can do it !
For example the reason for it !
The role of the FF !
OP FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
8 Aug 2010 #58
rodziceradza.pl/Rodzice/Zabobony,q,181575.html

new list of polish myths/superstitions. after the article, other posters go on to list more.
zetigrek
8 Aug 2010 #59
Those in this links are from the same branch as black cat crossing your path or go through under the ladder... you don't have to debunk anythink in things like that

PS do you also have general superstition about "krakać"/"zapeszać"? If you say something bad might happen you have to knock in unpainted wooden surface or spit what you have just said (by saying "tfu tfu")
Ironside 53 | 12,422
8 Aug 2010 #60
myths are myths, every country has its myths ...

you mean touch the wood?


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