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Unable to get a work permit for Poland (not EU-citizen)


delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
3 Sep 2013 #31
You were the one implying that none should ever be allowed to come to live to Europe specially to Poland if they are not EU citizens.

It doesn't matter. The French have quite a restrictive policy towards non-EU migrants, partially because of how many Arabs ended up with French citizenship due to their colonial days. You might be able to get a visa that allows you a working holiday, but the French (regardless of language spoken) make it pretty difficult to obtain work permits.

Now that you mention it, I know non-EU citizens who have immigrated recently to France and the UK for working, having at least a master degree, they got their respective work permits without issues.

Yes, and I know plenty of non-EU citizens who emigrated to Poland and who got work permits without problems too.

It could be they found a cheaper one. Poles work for low wages. However that doesn't mean their work is better or at least the same. Pay peanuts, get monkeys !

Or perhaps they found a better one for the same money. Let's be serious here - what you do cannot be anything particularly great, given the salary range posted in previous threads.

No, I am not implying that. I am only suggesting that it should be an efficient system to deal with it.

There is an efficient system. In fact, it's quite an easy system as it's all dealt with at the local level rather than nationally. The fact that you seem to think that you have a God-given right to stay in Poland is another question.

But I realize Poles do not accept any criticism to their red system.

You just can't stop with the personal attacks, can you?

Let's be honest - the only reason you wanted to stay in Poland was so you could get laid.
polforeigner
3 Sep 2013 #32
I would expect a French speaking Canadian to have priority over a non French speaking for instance Pole (or Greek...) in the French labor market. Without (close to perfect) French, there is no way to get a job in France and that's why French speaking Canadians are easily granted work/residence permits and besides their French origin counts. Countries with colonial heritages (Britain, France, Spain, Portugal) accept people of their former colonies very easily and it makes sense.
OP random2099 2 | 16
3 Sep 2013 #33
i'm from a latin american country, single and with a master degree in a Germany university.

Which latin american country? , say it loudly to the Poles in here and you will get attacks to you based on your background!

No. I have both a master and a phd. Both obtained in western Europe, so what you say is nonsense.

I did post something concerning the purchasing power in a previous thread. However that is not related to the job offer. That thread was posted long after I left Poland, as a result of a conversation with some friends comparing purchasing powers and living conditions in different countries. One polish guy told me that if he would be able to earn 1100 euros in Poland, he wouldn't emigrate.

The fact that you seem to think that you have a God-given right to stay in Poland is another question.

Ok, please tell that to the hordes of poles who have emigrated

If you don't think Canadians should need to get any paperwork done in order to live and work in Poland.

Poles can emigrate to Canada without problems as long as they have a certain education, language skills, job offer, etc. So don't play the 'US Card -Visa Requirements for Poles' on me
Harry
3 Sep 2013 #34
I have both a master and a phd. Both obtained in western Europe, so what you say is nonsense.

You wish to assert that because you claim to have qualifications I cannot know appropriately skilled Canadians, Americans, Australians, South Africans, etc who are happily living and working in Poland? Oh dear....
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
3 Sep 2013 #35
It does rather seem as if there's more to the story than meets the eye.
OP random2099 2 | 16
3 Sep 2013 #36
I would expect a French speaking Canadian to have priority over a non French speaking for instance Pole (or Greek...) in the French labor market.

Thumbs up! It makes even more sense that those countries (Britain, France, Spain, Portugal) accept people from their former colonies who are descendants of those who left Europe.

However, even though a person from a former colony gets a job in the country where their ancestors and language come from (Britain, France, Spain, Portugal), another EU-citizen with no connection to that country whatsoever has preference over the non-EU citizen.
polforeigner
3 Sep 2013 #37
@Random2099: regarding your last paragraph, in theory a UE citizen may get priority but when mastering the local language is a must, then for instance a Brazilian would have priority in Portugal, a French-speaking Canadian in France/Belgium, an Argentinian in Spain ..... Let's say a Portuguese or a Spanish employer for inst will prefer hiring someone from Brazil or from Uruguay rather than someone from for instance Poland or Slovenia with poor knowledge of the local language and culture. The UE may write anything they like, this remains theory.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
3 Sep 2013 #38
They can prefer all they like, but they can't hire someone from Brazil over a Pole with a C2 level of Portuguese if the Pole is equal in other respects.

For what it's worth, the work permit process is annoying enough for most employers to prefer EU citizens.
ufo973 10 | 88
3 Sep 2013 #39
If you care so much about Poland and her, why not marry? That means you are not serious and just use her for s*x or something. Poland is doing better than your poor country that is why you came looking for job here. Don't like it, GET OUT!!!

He said he already left Poland, that means Poland is not doing better even then his poor country :(
Those 5-7 zloty per hour jobs are available in all poor countries...your country is not an exception.
udarkness 1 | 9
17 Nov 2013 #40
Merged: Information on the Polish work permit required ( successful and non-successful applications )

Hello again,This is question that I have, and I am sure a lot of readers have too. I think it will be a good idea to make a compendium of information about this on this forum.

migrant, they explained many reasons for being refused. Mainly due to fake information, or in the case of regulated profession due to lack of qualification requirements.

In my case, we got the prove that no polish nationals want my position (just 1 week and the document was delivered), I am programmer (not regulated profession), we submitted all documents about me(passport, and extra documents like university diploma and courses taken) and about the company. and we have been waiting 2 weeks (max time 30 days).

Then, I would like to know about your previous cases ( Please share successful cases or refused( with reasons they gave ), voivodeship and number of days it took ). Thank you, I am sure this will be useful for me and for many others.

( This information can be really useful for taking decisions about visa(abroad)/residence permit(in poland) )


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