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I want to run a Persian (Iranian) restaurant in Poland!


Asha 1 | -
4 Feb 2011  #1
Greetings

I want to run a Persian ( Iranian) restaurant in Poland, Warsaw. (now I live in Iran)

1. Do Polish people like foriegn food ( like Indian, Turkish , Persian)

2. How much money I need to run this restaurant? about 100 m2 with medium equipments. ( rent or buy)

3. What must I do for legal affairs and How can I get legal papers? Whether must I be citizen?

4. If I need a business partner how can I get her/ him?

Many thanks
Asha
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
4 Feb 2011  #2
1. Do Polish people like foriegn food ( like Indian, Turkish , Persian)

I sure do. I happen to be Polish too ...

All the other info you need to contact the Polish embassy maybe ... you know anyone in Poland? Why did you select Poland anyway?
southern 75 | 7,102
4 Feb 2011  #3
Polish people like polish food basically.They don't like to spend so unless you compete directly on prices with polish there is no way to succeed.
Stu 12 | 522
4 Feb 2011  #4
What do you know about restaurants in Poland?! Ever been there? How can you explain all the crappy pizzerias and shoarma places, huh? Give me a break :-S
southern 75 | 7,102
4 Feb 2011  #5
First of all it is impossible to bring real quality stuff from your country like you can in Germany etc.So a greek salad would not have real oil,greek olives etc and so it would likely have a taste not even reminding of true greek salad.Since you have these natural restrains the only area to compete is the price.
delphiandomine 84 | 17,703
4 Feb 2011  #6
1. Do Polish people like foriegn food ( like Indian, Turkish , Persian)

Turkish wouldn't work, it's associated with kebabs - but Persian would work very well. The only thing that you have to bear in mind is that the food has to be adjusted to the Polish taste - which unfortunately means sacrificing authenticity a bit. I have no idea about Persian cuisine - but expect the need for salt.

2. How much money I need to run this restaurant? about 100 m2 with medium equipments. ( rent or buy)

How long is a piece of string? It's impossible to say - it depends where it's located.

3. What must I do for legal affairs and How can I get legal papers? Whether must I be citizen?

It's not that difficult - you can apply for a visa on the basis of owning a limited company in Poland. Long winded and tedious, but not that difficult.

4. If I need a business partner how can I get her/ him?

If you need someone with experience, that's not a problem - plenty of foreign restaurant owners would help you out. But if you need people to invest money - forget about it.

They don't like to spend so unless you compete directly on prices with polish there is no way to succeed.

Sorry, but that's only true in small towns and villages in backwards parts of Poland. In big cities, people have money to burn - and will happily spend a lot of money on a quality product.

First of all it is impossible to bring real quality stuff from your country like you can in Germany etc.

Anything available anywhere in the EU is by extension available in Poland.
noreenb 7 | 557
4 Feb 2011  #7
Asha
1. Do Polish people like foriegn food ( like Indian, Turkish , Persian)

Yes, many of them do. We like to make "experiments" in the kitchen. We also like to taste foreign food. Italian is very popular among Poles as well as Greek, Chinese, other national cuisines with an emphasis on Mediterranean food.

Indian, Turkish, Persian are not popular in Poland, well, maybe except Turkish. There are some Turkish restaurants in my country.
Generally many Poles like spicy food and everything what looks good and is different then traditional Polish tomatoe soup, "schabowy" or chicken cutlet. We are open to getting to know new dishes form other countries I guess.

A great idea! Good luck for you.
sobieski 107 | 2,129
4 Feb 2011  #8
You mean you would like to get into the EU (even better the Schengen area) by a back door ?
delphiandomine 84 | 17,703
4 Feb 2011  #9
Hey, if he has the money, he's welcome. Not that expensive to start a limited company and apply for a visa on the basis of it.

(however, the talk of "business partners" makes me doubt about the money side)
grubas 12 | 1,392
4 Feb 2011  #10
Hey, if he has the money, he's welcome. Not that expensive to start a limited company and apply for a visa on the basis of it.

Hey it is not HE but SHE.And she's welcomed to PL.I can even send her an invitation if she needs it in order to get a visa.That's the diversity I am talking about.Don't be a racist Sobieski!
NomadatNet 1 | 457
4 Feb 2011  #11
You guys are after money of a woman?

Asha, you can contact gerlach.com.pl - owner of this company is a woman, you can buy your utensils (plates, glasses, spoons, knifes, and so on) from them. They can also help you on other things you asked.
delphiandomine 84 | 17,703
5 Feb 2011  #12
Hey it is not HE but SHE.

Hmm. With clever marketing, a female Persian restaurant owner could make a lot of money here. It would certainly be unique!
Mee - | 11
5 Feb 2011  #13
I love the idea. The best is to start from Warsaw. You could open a self service restaurant. Pay for the entry and eat as much as you want. You could serve a halal meat. It doesn`t make a difference for local people and it would attract muslim socity here.

I really miss this sort of restaurants in Poland....
sobieski 107 | 2,129
6 Feb 2011  #14
What must I do for legal affairs and How can I get legal papers? Whether must I be citizen?

You have to admit this sounds like a cute effort to get into Schengen.
convex 20 | 3,979
6 Feb 2011  #15
If you mean running a successful business for 5 years, learning Polish, and then giving up your old passport...then yea.
George8600 10 | 637
6 Feb 2011  #16
all the crappy pizzerias and shoarma places

the fact that you're calling them crappy insists that Southern has a point
aminzaved
6 Feb 2011  #17
i am Amin from bangladesh but i am polish , i l am living in poland 4 years , i have also idea restaurent but for money reason i am not able to do anything .well polish peapole may not like iranian cusin , if u go for indian also turcky its may work , well when u be in poland ? i live in torun , its nice and torusit city u can cheek in internet about my city , if u like any hand then i can help u fist of all u may need to come poland to find out yourself ,my nummber is 0048508416458

email:anonto90@yahoo
hungkambo
6 Feb 2011  #18
Amin

You're not Polish and you never will be, you're Bangladeshi.
matthev
29 Jul 2011  #19
We are polish-iranian company and we think we can help you with that

Eastland Investment Sp. z o.o, we are based in Warsaw, Poland. you can write to eastlandinvest@gmail or call my Iranian Partner (he is in the UK now) the number is +447591910065 or +447875404028 and speak in persian with him, just say you call from Matthew from Poland.
lei2
28 Jan 2014  #20
Yes actually Polish people prefer to eat not polish food outside home,coz its cheaper and more available here .
I am Persian and live here in Warsaw.
By the way searching for making business also , if interested let me know ;)
interfacemirror 3 | 26
25 Mar 2016  #21
Merged: iranian community

Hi friends

May I know if there is any Iranian community is Warsaw? Any pointer is appreciated.
porky pok 2 | 127
25 Mar 2016  #22
Infact I met an Doctor a GP working for Medicover in Warsaw who was from Iran last year.He had been living in poland for almost 10 years with his family so there must be somewhere.
interfacemirror 3 | 26
25 Mar 2016  #23
Thank you a lot. May I have his information? I am under medicover so most probably I will need a doctor soon.
Ebrahim - | 1
13 Apr 2016  #24
Merged: Run a Persian (Iranian ) restaurant in Warsaw

Hi
I'm planning to run a Persian restaurant in Warsaw with my wife
Do polish people like Arab or afgan foods any way ?
Do they like spices or new experiences in foods life style ?
How much usually people expend for dinning out ?
How do they select their restaurants ( what are the major elements to choose a place ) ?

If any one is interested please let me know for partnership .
JanekP
13 Apr 2016  #25
Welcome Ebrahim!!

In Poland the young educated mid-class of the big cities and urban areas (if it has sense to talk about "urban areas" in Poland) are more and more into ethnic/foreign food, is a huge trend that is continuously growing, as the westernized mid-class is growing and also ethnic cuisine arrived later in Poland if compared to the western neighbors, so is really peaking now.

Mid-class in big cities has even a very good purchasing power and are not scared to spend the right amount of money for something good and exotic.

Prices and location depends also in what kind of restaurant you wanna open, if a big nice restaurant (a bit like most of the Indian restaurants in the city centers), a fast food type (like Kebabs, Burgers, ...) or a cheap small restaurant (like Bar Orientalny, Bar Mleczny, ...)
InPolska 11 | 1,821
13 Apr 2016  #26
@Janek: do you personally know the food business or you are just trying to be "nice"? Believe me, it is a tough business (everywhere) and in Poland (including in Warsaw) a lot of restaurants don't last very long. I've seen numerous restaurants (or other businesses) collapsing afer a few months. Have you carried out a survey to tell us that younger Poles WILL[ eat .. Iranian food. Personally I doubt that such a restaurant will have [b]enough business to last.

Are you an expert in the field? If so, ok, I accept it ;)

In my opinion, such a restaurant would make more sense in a city like London where people are really used to exotic things and where there are people from all over the world. Of course, opening a restaurant in London would cost more but it could last longer...
delphiandomine 84 | 17,703
13 Apr 2016  #27
I'm planning to run a Persian restaurant in Warsaw with my wife

Don't open a restaurant. Open a food truck, and if the idea works, you can move into a proper restaurant.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
13 Apr 2016  #28
How many restaurants do collapse after a few months? I've seen tons of them in Warsaw alone. In order to keep a restaurant running and bringing an income after paying tax, salaries, utiliites, it is necessary to count on big steady clientele. The few Poles who might want to try Iranian food once in a while won't be enough to make a living...
jon357 63 | 14,341
13 Apr 2016  #29
How many restaurants do collapse after a few months?

Almost all of them on Nowy Świat, especially the ones with a "great idea". Some of the premises there really do have a new sign over the door every few months.

The ones that survive are the ones who keep it simple

Even my favourite French/Polish restaurant in Muranow eventually closed. And it was good.

Personally I'd (maybe, but only maybe) go to an Afghan or Arabic restaurant to see what it was like but probably wouldn't go again unless it was brilliant, cheap and had an alcohol licence. And remember I've eaten a lot of Arab food and also some (excellent) Afghan dishes. Most in Warsaw would stick to either what they know or to what was very heavily advertised.

It might not be what Ebrahim wants to hear, but in his position I'd stick to takeaway kebabs, zapiekanka or maybe pizza - and only if I had the perfect location and premises.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
13 Apr 2016  #30
Absolutely, Jon and not only on Nowy Świat but everywhere. I used to live right in Centrum (Hoża) and I can say that I've seen numerous restaurants (and other businesses) closing down after a few months. Poles are rather conservative including in their cuilnary tastes and like you say, they would not be regular at such a place.

In fact, when we travel around, we see numerous places that are almost always empty and I serioulsy wonder how they make a living. I know that there is some money laundering but it does not concern all restaurants. We see a lot of restaurants with 4 or 5 tables and once in a while there are 1 or 2 tables occupied. How do they live????

In places like Warsaw, there are maybe even now too many restaurants and unless something very special and top, not much chance.

Also, now people prefer to eat something easy and quick (without going to McDo ;)) without spending a fortune and that's why Poles go so much to café chains. There are also more and more French bakeries (owned by French or by Poles, like very trendy but unfortunately too crowded Charlotte, facing the famous .... Rainbow protected 24/7 by dogs and "anti-terrorism" forces) in Polish towns and they are good successes (most clients are upper classes because I suppose that "normal Poles" figure that it may be snobbish and expensive, but it is not so ;)). Based upon new trends, I seriously doubt that Poles (even in the upper crust) go for heavy and greasy lamb, rice and weird spices and no wine (Poles when in good restaurants mean to drink good wine).

Opening a food business in Warsaw, YES but it depends upon the kind of food and where and as I know Poles, I doubt that there would be a lot of clients for Iranian (or Afghan or whatever of the same style) cooking.

Yes, the guy may consider opening something in Poland if he has good money but he needs to really know what he is doing and to choose the right product and also the right area. Also, like Dominic (who has disappeared) said, if you are serious about something, don't ask "random clowns" in a random forum. Should the guy 'mean business", I suppose there are other places to get info than PF ;)

Running a business is a serious matter, it is not just a "whim"


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