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Why does Poland not have a repatriation office?


johnny reb 49 | 7,098
23 Jul 2017 #31
Each region has one. Do you want the address of the Warsaw one?

I didn't know that Warsaw was a region but I don't live there like you do so I won't debate you.
Sure, please post it and also the one for the Malopolska region.
jon357 74 | 22,054
23 Jul 2017 #32
I didn't know that Warsaw was a region

It's the administrative centre of a large one.

please post it

Phone or mail here, and you'll find out all you need:
Wydział ds. Repatriacji
tel. (0-22) 515-22-80; fax (0-22) 515-22-81
e-mail repatriacja@mswia.gov.pl
poniedziałek - piątek, godz. 8.15 - 16.15
mafketis 37 | 10,898
23 Jul 2017 #33
's the administrative centre of a large one.

yes, it's a miasto wojewódzkie.

Since in US terms a województwo is somewhere between a county and a state, a miasto wojewódzkie is somewhere between a county seat and a state capital.
johnny reb 49 | 7,098
23 Jul 2017 #34
Phone or mail here,

Thank you jon, I appreciate your help.
I missed you at mass this morning.
OP Curious Jerzy
23 Jul 2017 #35
Repatriation
Repatriation or return to the homeland of persons of Polish origin is one of the ways of acquiring Polish citizenship. This right is granted only to persons who do not have Polish citizenshipand wish to permanently reside in the Republic of Poland.

mswia.gov.pl/pl/bezpieczenstwo/obywatelstwo-i-repatri/169,dok.html

In short, the Polish government will only assist foreigners immigrate to Poland. It does nothing to assist actual Polish citizens establish their rights as citizens with the Polish bureaucrats or access documents hidden in the archives needed to do so.

War is Peace! Immigration is Repatriation! Propaganda is Truth!.
jon357 74 | 22,054
23 Jul 2017 #36
It does nothing to assist actual Polish citizens establish their rights as citizens

Plenty of people descended from those deported to the East have been assisted with this.
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
23 Jul 2017 #37
..however, the similarity between the two cases is that both groups felt themselves entitled to citizenship status in their country of ancestral, rather than actual, origin:-)
OP Curious Jerzy
23 Jul 2017 #38
Right, but it is far easier to document a citizenship right from an ancestor who left partitioned Poland after 1900 than one who left some German state in the 1700's. Documents still exist for the former.

Issues encountered by Poles with legitimate claims to Polish citizenship include:
1) Documents that were destroyed in wars, removed by occupying armies, or now located in lost territories in the East,
2) Inability to find the archive holding needed documents,
3) Refusal of the archives or civil records office to search for needed documents, i.e., a stated requirement for precise dates and places,
4) Inability to search archival records less than 100 years old,
5) archival records over 100 years which have not been indexed, or are still unavailable to the public for other reasons,
6) translation expense for all non-Polish language documents, including documents certified by the Polish archives, and
7) Polish administrators shifting burdens of proof to prove negatives, and demanding proof from claimants of records held in the Polish archives.

The number of people legally entitled to Polish citizenship born in the West is most likely in the millions. These people will get no assistance from the Polish government proving their claims. There is no repatriation office to assist them with the above problems to achieving recognition of their citizenship.

There are now reportedly 1.2 million Ukrainians legally working in Poland. If the number working with questionable visas is included, that number could be as high as 2 million. The elites running Poland want this cheap labor. Claiming that by giving work visas to people from the East with one Polish great-grandparent, or not even that, they are "repatriating" them, is simply dissentious. The policy preference is for cheap labor through immigration. Nothing was done for these people until more cheap labor was desired. Even now, they are not recognized as Polish citizens, but immigrants who might someday become Polish citizens.

The Third Polish Republic is not Second Polish Republic. The Third Republic claims that the Citizenship Act of 1920 is applied to those who left pre-WWII, but in de facto it does not. No one in the London government would have required those deported to the East to return as immigrants on work visas. That is not repatriation. I don't mean to suggest that the rights of those descended from Poles born in the East are antagonistic to the Poles born in the West. There is nothing mutually exclusive about their rights. I do so to point out the logical contradictions in the policy preferences. (Those living the West are far more likely to be culturally Polish than those who were forced to integrate into Soviet society.) The Third Republic is smaller not just in the size of its territory, but also in its mentality. Its elites remain threatened by the Poles from the West.


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