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If you lose your job in Poland is it easy to claim welfare?


rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #1
How does someone go about it and how much do you get a week?
Cheers!
pip 10 | 1,659
31 Jan 2012 #2
yikes- this is a loaded question, no?
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #3
Essentially as a foreigner(EU) what chances do you have of getting it?
Wroclaw Boy
31 Jan 2012 #4
nada
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #5
Why though? I'm from the British Isles, why can't I get anything is legal for them to do this?
modafinil - | 418
31 Jan 2012 #6
I'm from the British Isles

Not one of our brightest, are you.
kondzior 12 | 1,242
31 Jan 2012 #7
Not sure about foreingners.
The walefare is about 500 zl/month. There is a catch, though. After 6 month, the walefare is canceled, no matter what.
Also, you need to have been employed for 12 month during the last one and half a year (or something like that) to get the walefare in the first place.
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #8
That's crazy so despite a 12% unemployment rate it's just flat out cancelled??Do you know any where I can get info on this in English?
Chris1977 1 | 6
31 Jan 2012 #9
Your rights to claim benefits, tax credits or other financial support are protected by social security arrangements between the UK and other countries in the European Economic Area (EEA). This means you may be able to get UK benefits while living abroad in certain countries.

For most benefits provided by other countries under these arrangements, you will have to have paid National Insurance (NI) contributions in the UK. Form E301 is a record of UK National Insurance contributions which may help a claim for unemployment benefit in another EU country. You can download an application form for this and other related forms using the link below.

gov.uk/moving-or-retiring-abroad
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #10
Cheers Chris, but I'm interested now in how the hell Polish people live on nada! I found this but its old:

oecd.org/dataoecd/10/25/29736037.PDF

it says:

1) No housing benefit
2) Unemployed for 6 months
3) Can only claim for a year

I also found online that the average payment is 147 euros a month....

Can anyone confirm if its still the case?
hythorn 3 | 580
31 Jan 2012 #11
1) No housing benefit
yep
2) Unemployed for 6 months
nope
3) Can only claim for a year
nope
3 months if you jack, 6 months if you were canned

I also found online that the average payment is 147 euros a month....

maybe

what do you do?
get an old pram, convert it to an all purpose scrap metal collecting buggy and join all the other unemployed monkeys
an ability to fight may come in handy otherwise you will be robbed blind by other pikeys
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #12
Crazy so just to confirm if you quit you can only get unemployment for 3 months? Mental!
Don't think I'll quite resort to that...but it does sound fun!
Cheers!
BTW did you find that info online? Was it English?
hythorn 3 | 580
31 Jan 2012 #13
Crazy so just to confirm if you quit you can only get unemployment for 3 months?

bingo

no I talked to the natives. I can do that by being based in God's own country and possessing a knowledge of the lingo
kondzior 12 | 1,242
31 Jan 2012 #14
And who, in his right mind, quits, without having a new job within his grasp?
hythorn 3 | 580
31 Jan 2012 #15
it is rare in Poland but I know a lot of people in the UK and The States who quit their jobs without anything lined up

I knew a few people who did the same thing in Warsaw as they could not stand working where they were

this would lead us to a great new thread as some Poles put up with working conditions that are abominal - McCain french fries salesmen

for example. No one in Europe would put up with the manipulation that their salesmen had to put up with

it is not the wisest course of action perhaps

I just posted the same link but a moment ago

great minds... do you speak Polish?
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #16
No I'm here for work for a few months, trying to pick up bits but it's difficult!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
31 Jan 2012 #17
but I'm interested now in how the hell Polish people live on nada!

It encourages them to take jobs, rather than living nicely on a life of benefits.
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #18
delphiandomine
Yea, they can always go abroad to do that
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,846
31 Jan 2012 #19
It encourages them to take jobs, rather than living nicely on a life of benefits.

encourages them to leave the country more like.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
31 Jan 2012 #20
Win win situation for everyone. Got a problem with work shy people? No problemo, send them off abroad.

I'd say the European Union must have solved much of the unemployment problem in Eastern Poland overnight.
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #21
You need to develop rational arguments, you cannot on the one hand imply Polish people are hardworking as they don't get handouts, and the go on to say eastern Poland is full of work-shy freeloaders.....
a.k.
31 Jan 2012 #22
work-shy freeloaders

"Work-shy freeloaders"? May I ask what planet you live on?
He didn't say:

work-shy freeloaders

. You know, people sometimes have no opportunity to find any job and they live in horrid conditions, but it's probably beyond your imagiation that actually someone jobless might not be lazy-bones.
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #23
Ok and clearly you don't read full threads...or cant....either or....
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
31 Jan 2012 #24
You need to develop rational arguments, you cannot on the one hand imply Polish people are hardworking as they don't get handouts, and the go on to say eastern Poland is full of work-shy freeloaders.....

Where did I say that they were freeloaders?

You know, people sometimes have no opportunity to find any job and they live in horrid conditions, but it's probably beyond your imagiation that actually someone jobless might not be lazy-bones.

It's definitely true of those living in those horrible ex-PGR settlements - perhaps less so now, but there's still plenty of people who were 30-something when the system changed, living in such a place and having absolutely no opportunity to work.
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #25
Jesus are you actually thinking before you post??? Read your message about eastern Poland.....
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
31 Jan 2012 #26
Being work shy doesn't mean you're a freeloader in Poland. There's little to "freeload".

Anyway, aren't you the one struggling to find work?
OP rant2012 4 | 16
31 Jan 2012 #27
Or so you believe..... but seriously, if you're going to take a baton to something, make sure you know how to use it xxxxx
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
31 Jan 2012 #28
No I'm here for work for a few months, trying to pick up bits but it's difficult!

I understand. You moved to Poland, expecting to be treated as a queen, and now you've realised that there's nothing for you in Krakow (common problem).

Anyway, the rules in Poland are simple - you're entitled to benefits on the same basis as a Polish citizen provided you're legally resident here.
hythorn 3 | 580
31 Jan 2012 #29
Being work shy doesn't mean you're a freeloader in Poland. There's little to "freeload".

that just about sums it up

6 months pittance on the rock and roll and then 'hustling just to survive' (excuse the 1970s ghetto parlance)
kondzior 12 | 1,242
31 Jan 2012 #30
Come to think about it, every EU country should have exactly the same welfare system. Especially if they expect us to adopt euro currency.
After all, it would be nice to quit a job, for a year or two...


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