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Investors/Entrepreneurs.. Steer Clear of Poland.


delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
24 Aug 2010 #61
People who are deeply frustrated with something in their life look to find someone else or something else to blame. It may be Poland or whatever. Their views tell much more about themselves than about the things they hate.

Can't say it better than that.

Also : people never complain when things are going well.
plk123 8 | 4,142
24 Aug 2010 #62
Also : people never complain when things are going well.

you can't be in PL then.. Poles complain all the time and about everything. lol
polishmeknob 5 | 154
10 Sep 2010 #63
[Moved from]: (Poland) got two years until investors get worried about its ability to repay Debt

I just received notice that Poland has about two years until investors get worried about its ability to repay their debt and a Greece-like crisis will happen. The problem is Polish debt outpacing Polish GDP growth.
zetigrek
10 Sep 2010 #64
yeah it will start be not funny in Poland within few next months...
zetigrek
10 Sep 2010 #66
as I said:

not funny

polishmeknob 5 | 154
10 Sep 2010 #67
no, it's never funny.

as I said:
zetigrek:
not funny

I know! It's not going to funny.
pgtx 29 | 3,146
10 Sep 2010 #68
not funny

No, it's never funny.

as I said:
zetigrek:
not funny

I know! It's not going to funny.

hehe... that's funny...

I just received notice that Poland has about two years

in 2012 the world will end so that's OK anyway...
Ashleys mind 3 | 452
9 Nov 2010 #69
From my experience with Poles... they're all bureaucrats, but none are diplomats.

I guess that's where the environment influences them. No can do attitude...
poland_
9 Nov 2010 #70
From my experience with Poles... they're all bureaucrats, but none are diplomats.

There is an element of truth in that.

Also : people never complain when things are going well.

Things can be going well, but they could be going brilliant, if you didn't have to deal with the problems, polish people create out of thin air. Its like the lady in the post office, if I make him/her wait then I am important and my job is safe, if I am too efficient, then they will get rid of me: That is the mindset unfortunately.
Marynka11 4 | 677
9 Nov 2010 #71
I think nauczyciel has a lot of good points. My brother is running a business in Poland and he has the same kind of problems with people, no matter how much he pays. He ended up hiring Ukrainians, at least they are working better. But making a lot of promises and not showing up is the general problem with both nations.

nauczyciel's produce vendor was clearly dishonest. They both agreed to the price and quality of the goods. Defending the vendor is simply stupid. Polish people just are the happiest when they get to rip someone off, and I'm saying that also from my own experience with construction workers. First they agree to a price and how much and what they will do, then they realize, "that would actually be a fair deal, what's there for me?" and they cut corners.

I don't know about the Polish bureaucracy, but it must be outrageous given the fact that regular polish people come to the States and start and run successful businesses and they could never manage that in Poland. Though I think food industry has probably more restrictions than any other business.

BTW, what's the "October surprise"
Ironside 53 | 12,357
9 Nov 2010 #72
Why is everybody attacking him?

who is everybody ?
Ashleys mind 3 | 452
10 Nov 2010 #73
Either the government is running the joint or business is running it. Poland is stuck with the former i fear.
jen23
1 Dec 2010 #74
Thanks, I've really enjoyed reading this from an outside point of view I can see where this all went terribly wrong instead of "nauczyciel" using a more diplomatic approach and asking for help from the other writers who seem to know how all these things are done in Poland, he did the one thing you never do, critise your host country.

What ever is said from then on in will always be clouded with defensive judgement. As someone who wants to do business in Poland as I see it as a good country to invest in for the future and like its people, the way this was handled by the Polish writers was very disappointing, criticism is heathy for business it keeps you on your toes and their is some big businesses who are licking their lips waiting until Poland is just ripe for the picking, I think mafketis said it best with Polish people _love_ complaining, unfortunately they mostly don't want to expend any effort to make things better themselves and they'd rather eat razorblades than agree with a foreigner's criticism of their country. Remember big business doesn't care, they just silently slip in and have the resources to find workers who will work for peanuts or not work at all.

(Remember 9zl is still better than 0zl, and the age old sayings if you going to to a job do it well, because that way you move up and not down, don't hate the players hate the game but don't complain, improve)

Beware of the sleeping giants they are there just hiding in the shadows waiting for the right moment!!
Maybe 12 | 409
1 Dec 2010 #75
6zl an hour is very, very little money. 40 hours a week and you'd earn 240zl a month under 1000zl. Sod that. pay peanuts get monkeys.

I would rather mug a tourist, quicker, less hassle and a better earner.
lenin - | 2
14 Sep 2013 #76
I've been thinking of starting a business in Poland too. After reading this it makes me wonder if it is such a good idea after all.
irishlodz 1 | 135
14 Sep 2013 #77
You would want to be very careful, and certain about what you are doing.

In certain areas you could have an issue with extortion (Petrol stations, restaurants/pubs). In others bureaucracy.

Do a lot of research. I'm not saying don't, just speak to people who can accurately advise.


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