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Best inexpensive new car?


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
17 Aug 2012 #1
If you had a rich uncle who offerred to buy you one of the cheaper new cars available in Poland would you choose a Fiat Panda, Chevrolet Spark, Suzuki Alto or Dacia Logan and why?

Persoanlly, you might prefer to get the money and invest in an upper-shelf, several-year-old Audi, Peugeot or Alfa Romeo, but he insisted on a brand-new low-price make -- take it or leave it!
rygar - | 40
18 Aug 2012 #2
Fiat

produced locally- so huge aftermarket (also cheaper spares, service etc), pretty good quality

best bang for bucks

also, Skodas are very popular here.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
18 Aug 2012 #3
But only Skoda's Citigo (minicar) would fit the cheapest new car category. There still aren't that many of that model on the road in Poland although they retail for under 29,000 zł.

skoda-auto.pl/models/Citigo3-drzwiowy/
Wroclaw Boy
18 Aug 2012 #4
cant go far wrong with Opel Astras.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
18 Aug 2012 #5
Polonius3
You also cna't go wrong with an Audi or Volvo, but this was about really inexpensive new cars. The Astra is not in that class nor is the Corsa. I was hoping dor a review and comparison of cars in or around 30,000 złotys and those would include Fiat Panda, Chevrolet Spark, Suzuki Alto and Dacia Logan. Although tiny, the Toyota Aygo and Citroen C1 are already in the 35,000+ price range.
Forfour44 9 | 94
18 Aug 2012 #6
kia.pl/Models/Picanto

30,000zl They are getting better. Plus 7 year warranty.

hyundai.pl/Samochody/Osobowe/i10/Ogolnie/

32,000zl. Not a bad car too for 30k.

I would go for the Chevrolet Spark+. It's 29,990zl. Best around for the 30k mark.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
18 Aug 2012 #7
Skoda Fabia. Been driving mine for nearly 4 years now, very few problems (it helps if you keep a spare ignition coil though). Tough as old boots - first day I bought it, I put it into 1st and not reverse, put my foot down, and went straight into the back of a lorry. Shattered number plate, damaged pride, but nothing else. I've lost count of the number of times I've reversed into things since then, but you would never guess. Passed its 4th MOT with not one failure. Cheap to run, OK on fuel, starts first time when it's -12, and it's full of Audi parts :)
Forfour44 9 | 94
18 Aug 2012 #8
Fabia is 35k to buy one new. He only has 30k.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
18 Aug 2012 #9
If you like Skodas, then the Citigo at around 29,000 zł might be a good bet.

skoda.co.uk/gbr/newcars/citigo/prices/Pages/pricing_list.aspx
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
18 Aug 2012 #10
I only read post #1, so I thought it was a hypothetical question :) Besides, if the uncle's rich, I'm sure he can find the extra 5K :D
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
18 Aug 2012 #11
Maybe he wants to see how value-minded his nephew is. If the passes the test, the uncle may will him his entire estate!
pantsless 1 | 267
18 Aug 2012 #12
Maybe he wants to see how value-minded his nephew is.

Not quite. Buying a new car for 30k is an f'ing joke. You're just not in on it. What are you, 17? Yo yo yo, wujek zbigniew gonna hooks me up with mad tyte wheels yo

50k minimum for a new car, and then I'd recommend a Citroen C3, Kia Ceed or Hyundai i30, they go for around 60k+ but you might be able to find one that got damaged while in transit. If you dont plan on keeping it for a long time then also look at former test drive cars.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
19 Aug 2012 #13
and then I'd recommend a Citroen C3

A French car...in Poland?

Not something I'd recommend, personally...
pantsless 1 | 267
19 Aug 2012 #14
Not something I'd recommend, personally...

Whys that? I used to hate French cars but the newest offerings by Citroen, Renault and Peugeot are not bad at all, if we're talking about Citroen (and I have the most experience with them) the new C3 surprised me (although Kia and Hyundai hands down beat it in terms of options, service, warranty), and the C5 was wow with that special suspension and 2.0L diesel. Im going out on a liimb here but I'd recommend them over anything any German or Japanese manufacturer is putting out in this price range.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
19 Aug 2012 #15
At least in Poland - the build quality has always seen as being suspect. I've known a few people to own them, and the consensus is that they're simply not good enough to handle what Poland throws at them. I don't know about where you are, but Citroen don't have much of a presence here too - I'd be wary about being able to get any professional work done at a reasonable price.

Having said that, I'm very tempted to buy a new C1 for city runs...
Richfilth 6 | 415
19 Aug 2012 #16
Hyundai i30

Hateful, gutless, insipid little units with the turning circle of a river barge. Fine if you're over 60 and are buying one little car to last you until you die, but for anyone who needs a car for practical reasons, stay the hell away. Especially considering you can get excellent bargains on last-model (pre-facelift) Skoda Octavias this year with better equipment for less money.

Similarly, avoid the feeble Chevrolet Spark and plasticky Dacia. From the original list, only the Fiat Panda and Suzuki Alto are viable options on the sub-30k market, but it all really depends what you're planning to do with the car. I get asked for new car recommendations all the time "just for something small to get to work and do the shopping in", and the current market of small hatchbacks are equally fine for that sort of thing. It's when the buyer adds "and the occasional drive to Croatia" that changes everything, and that's where you need the 50k zl+ models.

But I still think buying a brand new car is a waste of money.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
19 Aug 2012 #17
So buying somebody else's often hidden headaches is better than brand new?
Richfilth 6 | 415
19 Aug 2012 #18
Presuming used cars are automatically flawed is as daft as believing all new cars are perfect.
Buggsy 8 | 98
19 Aug 2012 #19
30,000zl They are getting better. Plus 7 year warrenty.

Never been the gullible type but what does the small print say about this 7 year warranty on these Kia cars?
Richfilth 6 | 415
19 Aug 2012 #20
Has to be yearly serviced by a KIA dealer. 7 years or 100,000 miles, whichever is sooner. Does not included "limited life" components including clutch, brakes, audio equipment, wiper blades and bulbs (and therefore most engine components too). Paint is only warranted for 5 years, so doesn't cover rust.

So effectively the 7 year warranty is for the seats, bumpers and wing mirrors.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
19 Aug 2012 #21
Does not included "limited life" components including clutch

The question is - how easy is it to replace these "limited life" components?
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
19 Aug 2012 #22
The tiny VW Up is in the same size class as the Hyundai i10 or Chevy Spark but costs 10,000 zł more. I wonder if it is 10,000 zł better? Its Czech VW group opposite number is the more reasonably priced Skoda Citigo, but for some reason one doesn't see many on the road. Also there's the Ford Ka just a tad over 30,000 zł.
Buggsy 8 | 98
19 Aug 2012 #23
So effectively the 7 year warranty is for the seats, bumpers and wing mirrors.

Voila! And u have yourself another sales pitch. Just wonder what else they will come up with.


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