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Applying for short term visa to Germany while waiting for the decision - possible or not?


pz1 1 | 4
27 Oct 2021 #1
I want to visit a friend in Germany this Christmas for 3-4 weeks.
I applied for EU Blue Card last July, and the decision is "expected" to be given several days ago - but it did not happen as always.

My visa D is already expired 1 month ago (Sep 2021).
Our HR told us (and I also searched) that we are only allowed to travel within Poland once visa expired, but with stamp in the passport.

So is it possible to apply for short term visa to Germany on the basis of my current documents? - stamp in passport, work permit, employment contract, ZUS, etc.

I cannot find answer in polen.diplo.de. All I see there is info for long term visa.
My passport is not entitled for a visa-free visit to Germany
Lyzko 37 | 8,560
29 Oct 2021 #2
It depends on your nationality. Different rules apply to EU vs. non-EU citizens-:)
Lenka 3 | 2,894
29 Oct 2021 #3
No Lyzko. EU Citizens wouldn't have to apply for any of this so your answer is useles
Lyzko 37 | 8,560
29 Oct 2021 #4
Nonetheless, were for instance a Pakístani or, say an Egyptian, to apply to visit Germany, I know for a fact, the German passport authorities are more circumspect in such instances.
mafketis 35 | 11,216
29 Oct 2021 #5
I want to visit a friend in Germany

Don't risk it if your situation isn't settled. If you're discovered the assumption will be that you only went to Poland to go to Germany (which has had all the migrants it wants or needs and will be looking to expell you with all possible speed).
Lyzko 37 | 8,560
29 Oct 2021 #6
Is there a cut off point as to exactly how short a short term visa is?
OP pz1 1 | 4
29 Oct 2021 #7
I'm a PHL citizen

@Lyzko I'm actually not sure if my term is correct, but that's what I have been reading. schengenvisainfo.com/tourist-schengen-visa/ Long-term = national visa, Short term = tourist visa

@mafketis
I'm not sure what do you mean risk? If you mean go to Germany to visit a friend without a valid visa - definitely not. Its not worth it, and we can anyway meet once I got my residence card.

But if you mean in applying for a visa, can you elaborate why would it be a risk?
mafketis 35 | 11,216
29 Oct 2021 #8
If your passport doesn't allow for visa-free travel, why would they approve an application? But don't take my word for it, go to a German consulate (a bunch of them in Poland) and apply.

what do you mean risk?

Open borders... not much checking... But, several years ago, there was a case of a couple of Turkish young women who were doing an Erasmus year in Poland and wanted to visit friends in Germany... it didn't end well.
Lyzko 37 | 8,560
29 Oct 2021 #9
@pz1, your precise natíonality would be?
OP pz1 1 | 4
29 Oct 2021 #10
If your passport doesn't allow

But isn't it the purpose of applying for a visa, so that I can travel to Germany? But yes, I plan to send an email to the consulate in the next weeks to ask about that possibility.

Open borders... not much checking...

I'm assuming they do not have valid visa at that time? Do you have link about this story? So I can read what happened. Because I actually have been to Germany for 3 weeks when my national visa is still valid. Went there by train, and returned back by train as well 1 day before my visa expiration.

I was checked once on my way to Germany by Polish border guard. Did not have problem since visa is still valid. I also brought with me my papers (proof of residence card application, work permit, work contract, etc.) just in case - but it was not asked.

your precise natíonality would be?

Filipino, with Philippine passport.
Lyzko 37 | 8,560
29 Oct 2021 #11
Just curious.
mafketis 35 | 11,216
30 Oct 2021 #12
I'm assuming they do not have valid visa at that time? Do you have link about this story?

The story seems to be behind paywalls now... from what I could find they may have gotten bad information from an official (who didn't realize their visas didn't allow travel across borders) but they weren't deported (which was a possibility for a time)

given the situation on the eastern border (and where those who get into Poland really want to go) there are probably a lot more checks on the German border now, so even if you get a visa there will probably be greater than usual.... scrutiny...
OP pz1 1 | 4
30 Oct 2021 #13
Ok. I thought all visa issued by Poland is valid for all Schengen member state. Anyway, thank you for your replies! If it will not be allowed, then I have no choice but to wait for the residence card.
mafketis 35 | 11,216
30 Oct 2021 #14
I thought all visa issued by Poland is valid for all Schengen member state

Actually, no. It depends. By all means apply for the visa with the closest German consulate and let us know what they say (for future reference).
OP pz1 1 | 4
3 Nov 2021 #15
The reply from them is what I expected - it is not possible. They do not issue short term visa.
So Christmas plans are postponed until I get my residence card


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