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RE: Apostillization/Legalization of Documents by Polish national to be used in India


GauravT 1 | 4
29 Sep 2012 #1
Hello/Witam everyone,

I have an unsolved query regarding the procedure for apostillization/legalization of Polish documents that are held by my fiancee who is a Polish national by birth and blood to be used in India for the purpose of getting married with me (an Indian national by birth and blood). Upon investigation and throughly being followed with a law firm in India on the agenda of getting legally married with my fiancee "in India and in accordance to Indian jurisdiction", we have been asked to obtain a "Certificate of Single Status" by her from the local authority in Poland where she indwells. We have obtained the aforementioned certificate; however, since it is scripted in Polish language it has become a confusion for us whether we first need to get the certificate apostilled and then have it translated into English or to first get the certificate translated and then have the certificate apostilled (the later option we have already adopted). Does it make any difference? Also, after having the certificate apostilled and obtained the translated version, do we need to do something with the translated version just as we did with the original Polish certificate like having it pass through the procedure of apostillization or legalization? If there's any further process involved, please do let me know.

Thank you so much.
sobieski 107 | 2,128
29 Sep 2012 #2
Why do you want to come to Poland?
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
29 Sep 2012 #3
None of your fekking business really is it.
Especially when its obvious you presume its to rape all the white women and convert us all to muslimistanism!!!!!!!!!!

What a stupid question sobieski, he is getting married, can you not read English ?
Bieganski 17 | 901
29 Sep 2012 #4
Why do you want to come to Poland?

Why are you questioning why a foreigner wants to come to Poland when you yourself are also a foreigner in Poland?

The only question you should be asking is what time his flight arrives so you can pick him up at the airport and help him with his luggage. Full stop!
OP GauravT 1 | 4
29 Sep 2012 #5
Good evening/Dobry wieczor,

My fair intention is to get married with my half despite of the facts of territorial boundaries and law impositions which are human-made and have to be followed through on paperwork that proves to be an evidence for them for all those unpsoken feelings and emotions we bear for each other with my half. I am not a Muslim but a Hindu if you've questions or doubts about my religion. Besides I have been ready to convert myself into Christian but rituals involved in this takes time. God has made the world in oneness what is later on divided by humans into territories and henceforth called continenets, countries, nations, and so forth. It doesn't matter to me whether I have to leave my birthplace and move to a new home in Poland. I just want to be with her into this strong relationship of marriage what will be the seal for socialism and civilization. I just have queries on these paperwork what I have expected to get some assistance from your experience and some maybe in this field of expertise.

Therefore, please don't rise any hostility inside of yourself and keep the harmony with each other. We're eventually just differentiated as man and woman by nature regardless of race, religion, and all other social factors although left upon us to find your half in opposite sex that completely fits you in respect of all those unspoken beautiful feelings and soulfulness.

I expect your valuable response on my queries as a solution and a step forward to meeting our ambitions.

Thank you/Dziekuje.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
29 Sep 2012 #6
Besides I have been ready to convert myself into Christian

Religion is meaningless for you? God is meaningless.... no firm belief system, no stable identity.... oneday your love for the girl would erode too as you don't really belong to anything, only there till the day your heart doesn't float elsewhere to something of a renewed interest.
OP GauravT 1 | 4
29 Sep 2012 #7
I have not been intending to debate on something that's away from the point of question. Please let's stay on the point than intervening into my personal life and beliefs. If you have something to come up with the subject matter I have posted, you're more than wlecome and be my guest.

Dzieki.
freeosphere - | 6
4 Oct 2012 #8
Gaurav, don't worry about that ignorant. Not everyone here is a Pole, and many are fake ids who just spit their venom on every post. Generally Poles are quite okay. In fact, they love Indian cuisine, yoga and spiritual stuff. Recently they have opened a square by the name of "Dobrego Maharadzy" (the Good Maharaja), as a tribute to the Indian King who saved lives of more than 500 Polish children from the Siberian prison. He not only gave them shelter in his Palace, but also took care of their health and schooling. He even arranged a Christian Priest and Church for them, can you imagine that? It's ironical and yet amazing when neighbours were attacking/betraying Poland, a King from far far place in India offered his help. Like in India we say- Satyamev Jayate (the Truth Prevails).

Anyways, as you might have already guessed, I am an Indian too, and I am living in Warsaw since last three years. I am a programmer and I came here through my company. I share my apartment with my girlfriend but we haven't decided about the marriage yet. We like each other and are very good friends but marriage is a serious matter for both of us. Many people on this forum believe every foreigner wants to marry just to get the citizenship, but I can tell you this is not always true. Maybe most do, but not everybody. And its not about Asians or Europeans, people do this everywhere. But again, not everyone is the same! Every year I renew my VISA, just to not do something that can't be undone. The reason I am telling you all this so you may know this isn't a piece of cake. It's a lifelong commitment and as you know, in Hindus, we don't divorce. So decide carefully!

And if you really decide to marry, your best bet is to get married in India. You can invite her to India and under the Foreign Marriage Act, you both can get married there. This way, you don't need to provide any "Un-married Certificate". Also, in India, we don't have such a certificate. All you can get is an affidavit which is of no use in Poland. Or, you may try submitting this affidavit to the Polish Court and apply for the required document after coming to Poland. But don't take it for granted, it's a long complicated process. You better invite her to India, show her our culture and traditions, and get married there. I am sure it will be lot more fun. :)

And one more thing, no need to change your religion. Yours is the oldest and foremost religion of this planet. Other scriptures had gone through many amendments, but Vedas are still the same how they were thousands of years ago. It's peaceful and forgiving. I agree God is one, but Hinduism isn't just a religion, its a science in itself. In fact, I met many Krishna devotees here. And to be honest, they are the happiest people you will see in Poland. :)
rybnik 18 | 1,462
4 Oct 2012 #9
Namaste!
that was a good post.
OP GauravT 1 | 4
4 Oct 2012 #10
Thank you, brother.

I really appreciate your support and encouragment as well as your advice. It's quite relieving to know that people like you with such good understanding on emotions and sentiments exist what to othes, mostly, go by as impractical matter and they don't give any consideration to it and keep on suggesting things to us based on their biased experiences. Anyway, I would like to talk to you on little more details while having shared your valuable life experience and living in Poland for a considerable amount of years.

Again, while coming to this imperative point where I'm stuck at knowing the paperwork needed to be used in India what are held by my fiancee who's a Polish citizen. Brothyer, I have already had her visited to India just recently in the previous month and me and her families have consented to each other upon our marriage, although due to the absence of certificate of single status what was supposed to bge brought be her from Poland we just needed to wait until she could obtain that certicate from her local authority in Poland and then visit back to India again. I just need your experience on completing the paperwork before she could visit me again and we can accomplish our marriage together. Besides, I'm not converting myself; I just simply wrote that "I have been ready to convert..." but I did not. You can even communicate to me on my e-mail address what I actually do not wish to publicize it here. She's planned to visit here during winters and we just need to better be ready with the paperwork what she'd need to do at the concerned ministry in Poland.

Anyway, here's my concern:

"I have an unsolved query regarding the procedure for apostillization/legalization of "Certificate of Single Status" that is held by my fiancee who is a Polish citizen what is to be used further by us for getting married with her, and I am an Indian citizen by birth. We are in relationship with each other for 3 years but due to lack of resources like finance and certain circumstances, we had no other option but to wait before we could meet each other. Finally, after this long wait and yearning, we have met each other recently and with the consent of our families, have decided to get bonded in the sacred relationship of marriage. I have concerns to get acknowledged about the apostillization/legalization of her certificate of single status that's completely scripted in Polish language. I have had her certificate translated into English language. The confusion arises here whether we need to first get the original Polish certificate apostilled and then have it translated into English or we can simply have it translated into English and then get both of these documents apostilled? Also, does the translated version of certificate have to be apostilled or legalized? Also, what other documents would be required if we follow through Special Marriage Act in India so we can plan accordingly. She's back to her homeland".

I'm looking forward to hearing from you shortly and your valuable views and knowledge on this subject.

P.S. I'm new on this forum and I don't know how to privatize the message where I could send you my e-mail ID.

Thank you/Dzikeuje.
freeosphere - | 6
4 Oct 2012 #11
Namaste!that was a good post.

Namaste rybnik! I am glad you understood the essence of it. Bardzo mi miło.

It's quite relieving to know that people like you with such good understanding on emotions and sentiments exist what to othes, mostly, go by as impractical matter and they don't give any consideration to it and keep on suggesting things to us based on their biased experiences.

Ignorance is bliss, need I say more?

I am not very sure if she needs Apostille on her documents. Please suggest her to contact the Indian Embassy in Warsaw for exact details. Website: indembwarsaw.in
OP GauravT 1 | 4
4 Oct 2012 #12
Thanks freeosphere for your response on the matter. That's right it's better to ignore such people's opinion when you don't have to bother to have your personal life intervened with it. Anyway, dzieki again for your response and valuable suggestions.

Reagrds,

Gaurav
rybnik 18 | 1,462
5 Oct 2012 #13
Namaste rybnik! I am glad you understood the essence of it. Bardzo mi miło.

I do and I'm not even Indian :)
vickey 1 | 3
20 Sep 2013 #14
Hi freeosphere, this is Vickey. I want to contact you so is it okay to leave you a personal email? in that case could u share your email id? I can't PM/IM you since I joined as a new member.

Regards,
Vickey.


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