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How similar are Polish and Romanian languages?


Calin - | 9
9 Mar 2013 #61
Add to the list "Buna ziua!", "Buna soara!"

I need to correct you a little: "Bună seara" , italian: Bona sera, french (bleahh) : Bon soir.
Soare = Sun in romanian. Do you know we have the persoanal name :Sorin very similar with scaninavian Soren?
It it considered to be a derivate from Soare (Sun in romanian).Eg.: Un soare (singular: one sun), Doi sori (two suns).Sori+n= Sorin.

Also you know romanians are the genuine descendents from thracians/dacian (traci/daci in romanian) and i found on internet that swedish people also consider themselves descends of thracians.

Unfortunatelly i am sad that until now , no one has found (or maybe it is hided from politically reasons) inscriptions in dacian/thracian language.
Romanians were a big people came from thracins but unfortunatelly we are majority only in Romania (Dacia) and Basarabia (Republica Moldova) also a part of Dacia.

South Europe became slavian and greek, and only a few islands (insule, ostroave) of romanians remained, but over 1 million isolated romanians which dont have any cultural and linguistic rights.

I personally consider that thracian language is the descendat of first (indo)european language :hittite, and was similar partial with latin,slavian, greek, and germanic languages, thats why romanian language has all those simultan origins: latin, slavian, few germanic and greek.

For example slavian word "liubliu" =liebe (in german), iubire (in romanian), love (in english) is an indoeuropean common word in many languages.
Also > Trei (in romanian, also popular speach: tri) ,three (in english), tri (in slavian languages), drei (in german),etc.
Tata/patir (proto-celtic)= Tata (in romanian), pater (latin), father (english)--->Romanian preserved cletic origianl form (maybe dacians were related with celts)
Proto-celtic :Busu =Buza (in romanian) , Buze (albanian), means lips in english.

wales.ac.uk/Resources/Documents/Research/CelticLanguages/EnglishProtoCelticWordlist.pdf

I am disturbed by hungarians extremists and their fake history invented against our history. They say we are not dacians, but romans and slavs. So a new-come people in Europe "teach" us that we are not whom we believe and know we are, for a nationalistic extremist ego, and political interest of Hungary.

To be continued.....

Continuare/Continued...
Proto-celtic: luta= lut (romanian)
laxto =lapte (romanian) ,lacte (latina)= milk(english)
mlig-e/= lapte (romanian), mleka (slavian). So proto-celtic has 2 or 3 words for the same meaning.(e.g.: laxto=mleg, tata=patir) page 78.
dant = dinte (romanian), dente (latin), tooth (english) or we have "dantura" (all teeth)= dentition (in english) .
Nok, noxto = noapte (romanian) , Nocte (latin), Noc (slavian), nacht (german), night (english).
Romanian language replaced "c" with "p" :NoCtem--->NoaPte
PeCtum--->PiePt (Chest), FaCtum--->FaPt, Octo=Opt,etc.
d--->z e.g. latin: "Decem"--->"Zece" Română (romanian) (old romanian: dece, middle:"dzece" similar with polish, new romanian :zece)

"Dia"----> Ziua(old romanian "diua", middle time "dziua", new romanian: ziua)

wales.ac.uk/Resources/Documents/Research/CelticLanguages/EnglishProtoCelticWordlist.pdf
Warszawette - | 128
9 Mar 2013 #62
PS. it isn't "bon soir" mais "bonsoir" in French. Both exist but are not employed the same way ;)
Lyzko
9 Mar 2013 #63
I was aware of the Celtic connection as regards areas of Poland, e.g. Cracow, but not concerning Romanian or the Scandinavian derivative of the common Danish given name Soren:-)

One never stops learning, does one?
Calin - | 9
9 Mar 2013 #64
Here i am trying to reveal the celtic-dacian/thracian-romanian conection, not only the thracian/dacian-romanian-scandinavian connection. :-)
P.S.: Warszawette i dont like french language, so i dont give a....beep about it ! Lol :-)))
French it is not a latin based language anymore (despite vocabulary) , and i am referring to his s h i t t y accent. :-))
Lyzko
9 Mar 2013 #65
French is not a WHAAA anymore??!

Here I need to correct you a little! French is indeed a Latin-based language, same as Romanian, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese or Sardinian:-) A language doesn't suddenly become something it never was, nor morph from something which it wasn't. I believe what you meant to say (no reflection at all on your English, which is quite good, incidentally) is that the French language derived from the Gallic strain of Latin, mixed further on with pronunciation elements from the Frankish (a GERMANIC language, freely admitted, and not Latinate) compared with Romanian, Helvetian (the aboriginal language of Switzerland at the time of Caeser), Friulian or Ladino, which all derived conversely from "vulgar" Latin:-) Obviously, the reasons why French remains the 'odd man out' so to speak among the Romance tongues owes this particularity largely, though not exclusively, to its neighboring influences, namely, Latin from the Gauls (Vercingetorix etc..), the Franks (Charlegmagne and that ilk) and, of course, the Celts, along with the Normans > "Northmen", NOT French, i.e. Latin at allLOL The pronunciation therefore of French bares more similarity to the influence of the latter than, say, Spanish or Italian, both offshoots of a separate dialect of Latin and influenced by both the Moors from North Africa as well as the (native!!) Iberians. Italian shows the influences much the same dialect as Spanish, minus the Moorish and the Iberian.

Off topic, Calin, yet on thread, Hungarian nationalists have never accepted, that is, come to terms with psychologically, the fact that the infamous Trianon Treaty (1919??) essentially ceded half of Hungarian Transylvania (Erdely) over to present-day Romania! Hungary lost a huge chunk of its land. At least this is how THEY see it:-)

On the other hand, Romania too is rife with revisionism of its own, namely, whitewashing the entire Ceauscescu Era, in particular it's anti-semitism, the Iron Guard (Valerian Trifa) and all that stuff....
Calin - | 9
9 Mar 2013 #66
On the other hand, Romania too is rife with revisionism of its own, namely, whitewashing the entire Ceauscescu Era, in particular it's anti-semitism, the Iron Guard (Valerian Trifa) and all that stuff....

Well i have to say you are not totally right. Talking about anti-semitism lets not forget about Horthy regime in North Transylvania (ro:Ardealul/Transilvania de Nord) when Hungary received from Vienna Diktat this territory, and hungarian (military) autorithies killed/masacrated thousands of romanians and tens of thousand of jewish.

Look at this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=66wAzCI1yXA

Here I need to correct you a little! French is indeed a Latin-based language, same as Romanian, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese or Sardinian:-) A language doesn't suddenly become something it never was, nor morph from something which it wasn't.

Well of course french is a latin-based language, but i hate its germanic and awkward (strange) accent.
I have also germanic origins being mostly romanian, and german it seems to me such an difficult and ugly language, and listening french seems to me is nothing latin in it, despite the fact it is.

Franks (germanic people) have influenced the language and this is the reason of this awkward accent.
The conclusion: i hate french. :-)))

To make your weekend brighter i give you some romanian songs ,performed by Inna:
youtube.com/watch?v=XmSKex303Qk
youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=2CU70WskLXs
idle16 - | 6
9 Mar 2013 #67
Well of course french is a latin-based language, but i hate its germanic and awkward (strange) accent.
I have also germanic origins being mostly romanian, and german it seems to me such an difficult and ugly language, and listening french seems to me is nothing latin in it, despite the fact it is.
Franks (germanic people) have influenced the language and this is the reason of this awkward accent.
The conclusion: i hate french. :-)))

Every language is a treasure, it is a mentality, it is a chance to understanding all the information related to that language and can bring you lots of life or work benefits. If you do not like it is just better to shut up and keep it for yourself as come people can get offended.

And by the way, Inna sucks, she keeps repeating the same text over and over again. Also she sings in English and she cannot have a decent conversation with nobody in it. I am a Romanian citizen, so no xenophobism here.
Warszawette - | 128
9 Mar 2013 #68
Calin: your "hate" for French is incoherent especially since you don't know the language considering your mistakes. As to the accent, be informed that there are hundreds of French accents and I doubt you have heard them all ;)

As to your hatred, unfortunately it is not shared by all the bums and crooks from Rumania who steal and beg in France and who seem to really like it since it is impossible to stop them.
idle16 - | 6
9 Mar 2013 #69
who seem to really like it since it is impossible to stop them

As a citizen I know the problem. In Romania there is the same problem just that some entrepeneurs discovered that the "business" is more lucrative in western european countries. I really hate them and because of those people, many like me, people who study or work honstly and try to integrate in society, suffer from the discrimination derivating from their behaviour.
grubas 12 | 1,384
9 Mar 2013 #70
As to your hatred, unfortunately it is not shared by all the bums and crooks from Rumania who steal and beg in France and who seem to really like it since it is impossible to stop them.

You are confusing Romanians with Gypsies from Romania.They are not the same.
idle16 - | 6
9 Mar 2013 #71
I can assure you that there are many Romanian people who act like Gypsies dough they are not the same. I know what I'm speaking about.
Lyzko
9 Mar 2013 #72
French can sound attractive when spoken, yet nasal and ugly when sung (..except of course by "La Piaf...."LOL). Romanian once again, sounds like Italian spoken with a vaguely Russian accent:-) French is in no way "Germanic"! This would offend the French much the same as it would anger a Romanian to say their language sounds like Hungarian etc...
idle16 - | 6
9 Mar 2013 #73
My comments were in no way to excuse either Hitler's, Horthy's, Szillasi's or Ceascescu's excess,

You mentioned it alone. I was just trying to say that I understood (and everibody understood I think) that you do not want any "excess" which in this context means ethnical depuration, so killing, separating or deporting. Please to no tag my logic as convulted, it is quite rude. That was the tricky U-turn, and I was not blaming you at all.

Education is the solution to the gypsi problem, as there is no other solution that might fit the problem in my opinion. Or I understood you bad or you me but I did not insulted you.
Calin - | 9
10 Mar 2013 #74
As to your hatred, unfortunately it is not shared by all the bums and crooks from Rumania who steal and beg in France and who seem to really like it since it is impossible to stop them.

Now i take it as a personal ofense! Dear Warszawette not romanians are stealing and beging in France, but gipsyes. And my disgust about french language is also connected (not only) with this french attitude vis-a-vis to romanians of making us all beggers or thieves, when is all about gipsyes, who also live in Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Serbia,Bulgaria, and we all know how primitive and savage they are.

My disgust is about their accent.
So anyone can force me to like it? No.
My favorite latin-based languages are : Romanian, italian,spanish.
So dont mess up the gipsyes with the romanians !!
OK?
And stop talking about this subject: french language. The thread is about romanian and polish !
Lyzko
11 Mar 2013 #75
Fact is though, that nearly every European country from Romania to Ireland has had its gypsy (pc "Roma" > Romany!) enclaves of the last hundred or more years. Gypsies aren't even European, as you know, but rather descendents of ancient inhabitants of present-day India, once misnamed "gypsies" as it was thought they hailed from EgyptLOL

For the record: NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER between Romanian and gypsy tongues, save for the occasional borrowing etc.. They don't even look alike, at least not to me.


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