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Posts by Ozi Dan  

Joined: 22 Nov 2007 / Male ♂
Last Post: 17 Feb 2016
Threads: Total: 26 / Live: 17 / Archived: 9
Posts: Total: 569 / Live: 349 / Archived: 220
From: Australia
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Interests: Martial arts, fishing, reading, the Napoleonic wars, my missus, Poland, cars......

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Ozi Dan   
10 Apr 2008
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

i teach English in America

You'd know then about appropriate paragraph spacing then? ;-)
Ozi Dan   
11 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

I would really like to see proof of that.

I recommend you read "The Forgotten Few" by Adam Zamoyski. There'll be a few uncomfortable truths for the British in that book.

In any event, it's pretty poor form for the British to critique the Polish pilots of the BofB. Analogy appropriate I think:

Stan gets into a fight with Fritz. John Bull promised to help Stan in that event, but failed to render any meaningful assistance.

Fritz turns on John Bull, and despite John Bull's previous inactivity, Stan helps wholeheartedly in John Bull's direst hour of need.

Things get better for John Bull, but not for Stan. When the dust settles, John Bull manfully critiques Stan's fighting prowess, despite the fact that Stan rendered meaningful assistance and more than likely tipped the balance.

Who should hold his head up - Stan or John Bull?

One thing I know for sure - I'm never going to help a Brit who gets into a blue! ;-)
Ozi Dan   
12 Apr 2008
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone has any antique Polish weapons and militaria? If so, what is it, and do you know its provenance?

Ive got an old warhammer stored away somewhere. It says "czuwaj" on the handle, which dad tells me means "careful". I used to smack trees with it as a kid til I was told not to.

We also had some Turkish booty from the Vienna campaign, sadly pilfered in WW2.

Look forward to your stories.
Ozi Dan   
12 Apr 2008
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

No, you're asking about Nazi stuff, so I asked you to have some respect for obvious reasons. Perhaps you could start a new thread somewhere else?
Ozi Dan   
12 Apr 2008
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

Man up will ya.

Sorry mate if I jumped down ya throat - didnt want this thread turning into a Nazi memorabilia flea market, that's all (plus I despise Nazi memorabilia).

is it not some form of Scout hammer

I'm not sure. From memory, the shaft is about 3 foot long of some type of greyish hardwood. The head was about 8 inches tip to tip, and had an axe type on on side and a hammer on the other. I also now recall another inscription nailed to the handle that said (trans) 'only in the greatest need'. I'll try to dig it out.

Polish sabre
Some old pistols from the Polish hussaria area
Some old armors

Wow, sounds great - any chance of posting some pictures??
Ozi Dan   
15 Apr 2008
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

I had to swallow my instinctive revulsion for "nazi" stuff

Yeah, I'm aware of that issue. As I set out, I didnt want my thread to become a Nazi junk swap meet, that's all. Cheers

PS - did you have any further thoughts on my 'warhammer'.
Ozi Dan   
15 Apr 2008
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

Have you looked on Ebay?

Yes. I was more interested in the stories behind the items rather than actually purchasing something from someone who probably has no idea about the provenance.
Ozi Dan   
20 Apr 2008
UK, Ireland / I have concerns over the British immigration policy so I wrote to my MP. [126]

that to many in my country but you and your mates can do that at any time.

Ha ha. Perhaps you could also write a letter to your local MP Espana (on the influx of Brits) - the irony would be delicious.

I see from Mr H's posts a strong tinge of racism - why? Because it was reported back to him that the immigrants are filling the gaps created by the immigrating Brits. It's an equilibrium really.
Ozi Dan   
20 Apr 2008
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

I saw an interesting program on the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. I understand it was their 65th anniversary on Saturday - RIP to all the heroes who perished in their struggle.

What saddened me was the blatant hatred toward the Poles expressed by the Jews interviewed. One old lady, a Jewish insurgent, when asked about the worst thing she experienced, replied: seeing the little Polish children on a swing set watching the ghetto burn. Strange. Imagine having all that hatred built up for all these years over seeing children watch a fire.

Comments like this lead me to believe that there's something not right with some of these people.

It was strange listening to these comments, then watching the Polish government's memorial to the uprising - who really hates who?
Ozi Dan   
22 Apr 2008
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

She asked the Jewish lady (for the lack of a better word) to sign the witness affidavit. She refused, stating that my aunt's greed had no limits.

Gday Darius,

That's despicable - I honestly don't know what else to say. There's probably scores of honest and upright persons such as your aunt who have similar anecdotes, but as she did, they choose to press on with their lives and not raise a fuss - but szlachta are cut from a different cloth.

The worst thing is that she probably made that up

Could be. Or she read the same book I did. An Aussie author wrote a book about the Jews under Polish rule. There were several eyewitness accounts relating similar stories - people watching the ghetto burn. The context in which they relayed this detail was such that you felt as though the witnesses should have jumped the fence and started fighting as well.

There was a documentary a few years ago made by an Aussie comedian who calls himself "Austen Tatious". He's apparently of Polish/Jewish descent (I think his name was Glichman). He went to Poland to 'trace his roots'. He was quite angry towards the Polish, blaming them for the demise of his family and for taking his family's possessions during the war.

He went to the apartments where his family once lived, and on camera, stood in the atrium and started screaming out for his grandparents. Some old people came out to see what was going on, and told him his grandparents had left long ago. He was a strange man.
Ozi Dan   
22 Apr 2008
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

Primary sources are made by historians and secondary are made by people and are called personal accouts of what has happen.

Hi Miranda - forgive me for being a smart ass, but primary sources are eye witness or contemporary accounts and secoondary sources are made after the fact by historians etc.
Ozi Dan   
9 May 2008
History / Polish 304 SQUADRON IN THE RAF IN WW2 - Davidstow in Cornwall [16]

ARCHIVIST

Welcome to the forum my friend and thank you for the kind words. You could try the book 'The Forgotten Few' by Adam Zamoyski -excellent anecdotes, statistics and postscripts on what happened to some of the Polish BoB pilots.
Ozi Dan   
17 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Tell me. Tell me, Harry. Why do you hate Poland and the Poles so bad?

Because deep down he admires the Poles and he knows he can never be one, so he finds what he can in his spare time to 'shock' us with. Harry is a spiteful Pom who I suspect somewhere in his past was jilted by a Pole and this is his 'revenge' - and how sweet it is too - trying to get us all afret about Polish concentration camps.

Harry

you need a girlfriend (it'll focus your mind on other things), but judging by the way you speak to ladies on this forum that'll be difficult.

In any event, no one here has to admit anything about your so called concentration camps, least not to you. They had nothing to do with you, your family aren't Polish, and you certainly don't qualify as a person to whom recognisance should be delivered.

Here's a lesson for you - when you address Poles, do so with respect, and especially when addressing females, because Poles, unlike your kith and kin, treat women with respect no matter what.

Here's another one - if you want recognisance, address it to the people who should be giving it. Dunno about your line of thinking, but it's pretty clear to me there aren't any Polish commo apparatchiks here.

Here's the last one - communism was forced onto Poland. No popular mandate equals no popular liability, no matter how hard you try. Simple really. Polish blame shifting you say? Could be, but as a legal/political nuance, it outflanks your proposition.

Facts taken in isolation mean nothing - try contextual analysis. Sorry - forgot you don't need to when writing penny a pound tourist flyers.
Ozi Dan   
18 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

So not one single Pole ever assisted the communist regime? No Poles ever joined the Communist party? All Poles always fought communism all the time (apart from when they invaded Czechoslovakia anyway)?

You've been trumped and your arguments are now becoming tiresome and desperate Harry. Many people here have shown you up for the sensationalist and virulent bigot you are.

You're a smart guy - my post was pretty clear and you know the answers, though the questions you posed are tangential to the nub of my proposition (we all know obtuse responses are a sign of evasion so you fool no one).
Ozi Dan   
20 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Rough: translation = you have been wrong about every assumption you have made about me so now you try to paint me as a bigot to cover your own desperate exit. Point to just one single fact which I have posted here which is not true, I challenge you.

In the absence of any indication, and based on your veiled comments as to your mysterious persona, one's only left to assume - I still say you're a Pom. Or perhaps you're an Aussie, seeing as you 'hold' a passport. Whatever.

I don't need to paint you as a bigot. I merely pointed it out to you, as your words here convey it plainly. You're a bigot for your own beliefs and a bigot against Poland and more particularly against it's people.

The issue isn't about the 'facts' you post, because that's not what you're doing. You are making allegations and cherry picking to suit your contentions.

I admit that Jews were evil both during and after the war. I admit that the British could have done more. I admit that the RARAF could have done more. But still to you I’m a bigot, because I will not agree that the Poles were entirely and completely innocent.

Your admissions on other issues have nothing to do with your position on Poland, so what's your point? The above argument is akin to saying "I have Jewish friends, therefore I can't be anti semitic".

You claim that my arguments have been trumped.

You say the Polish people have to take responsibility for these so called concentration camps. I point out that the prisons were run by the communists. Communism had no popular backing - it was enforced by an alien power, and facilitated by a minority of "Polish" scumbags. Polish people can't be held responsible for it - it's anathema to the concept of popular government. Your argument might have held some water if it was a democratic government at the time, but it wasn't, the implication being that the individual is responsible in a notional sense for the actions (good or bad) of the government they elected.

Your argument may also have held some water if you had pointed out any benefit derived to the Polish people in general, with such benefits had by virtue of the operation of the camps - the rationale being that you profit from misery, you be responsible when called to account. This didn't happen either, did it Harry.

I confirm your argument is trumped, unless you can counter my proposition.

An anonymous wikipedia writer vs. the US library of congress: who to believe. A bigot who says that even if Poland ran concentration camps pre-war, he’s proud because they locked up Commies, or Norman Davies: who to believe?

Oh - so now you're the mouthpiece of the US Congress Library and of Norman Davies. I shudder at your lack of shame. Norman Davies at least has the academic impartiality to temper his contentions with historical context.

You call me a bigot but fail to question any of my historical facts.

As I've said before, facts without analysis and context mean nothing. Facts, when you mesh them with opinions, as you've done to create your own agenda, lose their authority and meaning.

For example: - FACT- camps in Poland post WW2. OPINION - Polish people must be responsible for that.

All I've done is counter your opinion with facts of my own - I don't need to challenge your 'facts'. You'd have to agree opinions give way to facts.

Here’s the rub for you ‘Ozi’ I hold an Australian passport but unlike you I choose not to remain in a nation which suppresses the indigenous people. You however remain in a racist nation.

My FACT: the Australian Prime Minister and Labour government recently apologised to the aboriginals in a lengthy and pretty exhaustive "sorry" speech.

FACT: the Aboriginal population enjoys a degree of autonomy to conduct their own affairs. They have legal remedies if they are of the view that they are suffering from oppression. True it is to say that the High Court said that their traditional land ownership rights under customary law must give way if they impinge on the Common Law of Australia.

My OPINION: Sure, there may be elements of supression, but because you failed to give me any FACTS to support your OPINION on this point, I could be here forever speculating and assuming what you mean - this is an issue we've had before, isn't it Harry?

Your FACTS: Nil

Your OPINION: Aussie's are racist and by reason of my remaining here, me too.

So you tell me: who’s the bigot?

Need I?

Rough translation: If you love Poland so much. why aren't you here fighting to make it a better place to live?

I don't have the means or opportunity to do so unfortunately. The 'war' I 'fight' is against people such as yourselves. You attack, I defend. Your petty, yet quite poisonous, insults and allegations against Poles are not to my taste. When all is said and done, history is all that's left, and I don't want some kid who comes on here to research his/her heritage to read comments from you or your ilk and take them at face value.
Ozi Dan   
21 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

It is fascinating how you are obsessed with my race. You seem certain that knowing my race would tell you something about me. That is because you are a racist.

It has nothing to do with any sort of obsession. You could clear it up quite easily by telling us where you're from. Again, you draw a conclusion based on nothing. This is getting bizarre.

It’s not a belief against Poland: it is the knowledge that Poland ran pre and post-war concentration camps. The belief is that a lot of Poles need to face up to the facts of what they did and stop painting themselves as eternal victims.

When did the argument switch to pre war 'camps'? Can't you digest what I have said about responsibility and blame apportionment?

Fact: pre-WWII Poland ran a concentration camp.

So what? Is this what you're all upset about? We're sorry Harry - please forgive. Relative to the atrocious things other countries were doing at the time, I don't think too much sleep will be lost.

But by your logic the German people bear no responsibility for the holocaust:

Nice attempt to obfuscate Harry. Off topic entirely and a bit like comparing apples with lemons too. Hhmm - deaths of several millions of people through a systematic campaign of annihilation v. prison camps: well, you see the difference. Disingenuousness in the extreme.

More logic by which you absolve the German people from bearing any responsibility for the holocaust. What benefits did they derive from killing all those Jews?

See above. You want to argue these points, start a new thread. I'll be happy to oblige. Metaphysical debates are great.

I am simply repeating what they say: that pre-WWII Poland ran a concentration camp.

Again, you shift the boundaries, and then use the new boundaries to cry foul and push an argument on a slant that wasn't being discussed. Lame. Have some self respect.

Repeating - that's all you're good for. BIG DEAL.

You’re just a kid living at home with his parents.

Well, you've been bested by a brat in pampers then, haven't you. Thanks for the free ammunition on that one mate.

Here speaks the voice of experience, eh kid?

And it's an experience I'm sure you'll learn from - just call me Doogie Howser - smartest kid on the planet.

Don't mean to offend Harry, but further comment is just trammeling old ground.

Now, back to your tourist flyers Harry. The Warsaw tourist kiosk is out of your black and white photocopied , 20 point font, misspelt, wonky formatted, dot matrix printed, British stag party guides. I have it on good authority that the last 9 of 10 that you left there 2 years ago were used to scrape the dog excrement off a passing drifter's shoe - apparently, that's all they were good for.
Ozi Dan   
24 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

What brings you to Polish forums??? are you Polish??

He was named after an AK comrade of his father who was killed by the Jerries. Perhaps he can't read English too well??
Ozi Dan   
24 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Run along kiddie or you'll feel the back of my hand.

Gotta laugh at you mate - there's nothing more fake or absurd than internet bravado from a non entity who has been thoroughly trounced, ridiculed, mocked and ousted to the nether regions of unimportance and hypocrisy. Keep trying Harry - you know you're yesterday's news.
Ozi Dan   
25 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

You really think that I’d waste the energy needed to give you a slap? You’re not even close to being worth that. I wouldn’t even cross the road to p*ss in your mouth if your teeth were on fire.

I pity you if you fell the need to start making physical threats and all the other nasty personal stuff. It shows that you're angry, upset and humiliated, and quite rightly so.

There are other ways to lash out though. I saw a show the other day where people were punching pillows to express their anger and frustration. Another physical outlet could be jogging on a treadmill, or riding really fast on an exercise bike - either one is well suited to someone who wants to make a lot of hot air but not really go anywhere.
Ozi Dan   
27 May 2008
History / "Poland's Concentration Camp" ?? [570]

Still angry about getting smashed in this debate Harry? Clearly so. You haven't flung any **** back at me - you didn't come even close. I'm growing bored with you Harry - I expected more, you being an author and all.

If you actually are a lawyer, which given your knowledge of libel law I somehow doubt.

If memory serves me correctly, there were some discussions had on the forum several months ago about a piece of Polish legislation making it unlawful to make spurious allegations about Poland.

Word to the wise - might be worthwhile hunting that thread down. Do have a good evening whilst doing so.
Ozi Dan   
6 Nov 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

So by the logic of some Poles, Auschwitz must be Polish and not at all German because it was 'born' in Poland to German 'parents', described itself as German and was used against some Germans thoughout its life.

Personally I'd call Copernicus Prussian and Auschwitz Nazi but that's just me.

You're obsessed - but that's just me. Haven't seen you in ages Harry -good to see you back!
Ozi Dan   
26 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / Britain... What the Poles did for us. [444]

yes it was a gamble, because the polish pilots were mostly newly converted to RAF fighters and largely untested in battle- and i don't use capitals when i'm typing as i can't be bothered...

Largely wrong - where did you source this misconception? Probably from your school days eh?

You should read 'The Forgotten Few' by Zamoyski - it'll put you right on the facts.

For what the Poles gained out of assisting the Poms in BoB, they probably should have stayed out of it.

tomek

Cool avatar mate. Relative? What rank and military arm?
Ozi Dan   
27 Jan 2009
History / Polish weapons and militaria - got any? [153]

The British government of the time were very aware of Anders plans and made damn sure than everything was done by both Britain and US to stop Anders creating such a united Polish 'Free' Force on German soil

This is indeed a revelation. Any chance of posting copies of the papers?

Many thanks for the info - I'll have to do some of my own research now.

Perhaps this theme is worthy of a new thread?

Cheers, Dan
Ozi Dan   
4 May 2009
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1462]

I was told a few times I look Spanish

Forgive my familiarity with you, but you do indeed look very Spanish. FYI - you are almost a dead ringer for my missus (who's Spanish) in the top pic of you next to the river. Perhaps you have the ancestry? A Polish legionnaire in the Napoleonic Wars who took a Spanish donia back to Poland with him.....?
Ozi Dan   
6 Aug 2009
History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [901]

WWII - who really was the first to help Poland?

IMO, the issue is not really who was the first to help, because that's academic, but who was involved in the betrayal and backstab of Poland in the ensuing years of WW2. The focus seems to be on a purported lack of 'positive' action, but I think more scrutiny should be given to the passivity, or lack of action, vis the West and in particular GB.

That more relevant issue can be distilled down to the fact that Poland, or more correctly, its emigre military forces under the de facto leadership of GB, were used by GB whilst GB was in full knowledge that Poland per se would cease to exist after hostilities ceased because Soviet Russia was permitted to swallow Poland.

I have expanded on this contention in my various posts under the thread "What did Poland get out of the wars and struggles for others". That contention has remained unchallenged and in my opinion, goes to the heart of "Poland's" grievance towards the West, but more particularly GB.

Cheers