z_darius
24 Oct 2007
Language / Polish Swear Words [1242]
I wonder if there is somewhere a Ploish equivalent of: youtube.com/watch?v=CqnvxP0H3lM
I wonder if there is somewhere a Ploish equivalent of: youtube.com/watch?v=CqnvxP0H3lM
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Law / Polish Citizenship for a foreigner whose parents was born in Poland [174]
You are a Polish citizen then.
Both of my parents were born in Poland
You are a Polish citizen then.
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
I think it would be good for you to regroup (so to speak) and have some principles of a good argument in mind:
1. never use words such as: all, always, every time etc, without having a proof. All it takes is one exception and your statements are false.
2. avoid name calling - paradoxically, it doesn't necessarily describe your opponent, but it can say a lot about you and weaknesses in your arguments.
3. always check facts before referring to them - the Greek and Turkish stuff you mentioned before gave you away as an easy target.
Other than that, I hope you kick the asses of all racist you meet, be it Poles, Brits or others.
If the majority of Polish were like you here on this forum, then everything would be cool, but are you the rule or the exception to the rule.
I think it would be good for you to regroup (so to speak) and have some principles of a good argument in mind:
1. never use words such as: all, always, every time etc, without having a proof. All it takes is one exception and your statements are false.
2. avoid name calling - paradoxically, it doesn't necessarily describe your opponent, but it can say a lot about you and weaknesses in your arguments.
3. always check facts before referring to them - the Greek and Turkish stuff you mentioned before gave you away as an easy target.
Other than that, I hope you kick the asses of all racist you meet, be it Poles, Brits or others.
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
The word "majority" is quantitative (50% + 1), so no, accepting this without actual numbers would not be an option for purposes other than general bickering.
how about the majority of poles are racist then? do you concur?
The word "majority" is quantitative (50% + 1), so no, accepting this without actual numbers would not be an option for purposes other than general bickering.
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
If you say "Poles are racists" then it's silly to say so without having some proof, as you are generalizing an entire nation, so yes, stats would be nice to see.
If you say "some Poles are racist" they you are right, and all the proof we need is your statement based on personal experience.
im am not saying that poles are rasist, i am saying that its pretty silly to ask for stats in order to prove they are not
If you say "Poles are racists" then it's silly to say so without having some proof, as you are generalizing an entire nation, so yes, stats would be nice to see.
If you say "some Poles are racist" they you are right, and all the proof we need is your statement based on personal experience.
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
Are these links about Polish residents in the UK?
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3885213.stm
pww.org/article/view/1591/1/99
islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1190886383720&pagena me=Zone-English-News/NWELayout
oxfordstudent.com/ht2002wk2/news/institutional_racism_in_uk _universities%3F
Are these links about Polish residents in the UK?
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3885213.stm
pww.org/article/view/1591/1/99
islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1190886383720&pagena me=Zone-English-News/NWELayout
oxfordstudent.com/ht2002wk2/news/institutional_racism_in_uk _universities%3F
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
I admit I missed a few of his points. Do you mean the ones where he offends me without good reason to do so?
The fella throws in ideas and statements without any proof. He even rewrites history. How's that for a reliable source of info?
Are some Poles racist?
Hell, sure some are. I know a few myself.
All all Poles racist?
I dunno. There is over 50 million of them around the world. I didn't have a chance to meet them all. Did you?
you missed the point dude - even after dandeanuk spelt it out for you
I admit I missed a few of his points. Do you mean the ones where he offends me without good reason to do so?
The fella throws in ideas and statements without any proof. He even rewrites history. How's that for a reliable source of info?
Are some Poles racist?
Hell, sure some are. I know a few myself.
All all Poles racist?
I dunno. There is over 50 million of them around the world. I didn't have a chance to meet them all. Did you?
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
The allegation of racism is a serious one. Racism is a criminal offense, at least here in Canada. Your law and ours are similar. The accuser carries burden of proof. You can prove that particular individuals are racist, but to prove that the entire nation is... well... roll up the sleeves, you got a lot of work to do. Before you have a compelling body of evidence (other than 5 or six Poles you met), you are just a story teller.
can we conclude that because the likelihood of finding stats supporting this is approximate to the likelihood of finding stats telling us that polish people are rasist, that polish women are in fact ugly?
The allegation of racism is a serious one. Racism is a criminal offense, at least here in Canada. Your law and ours are similar. The accuser carries burden of proof. You can prove that particular individuals are racist, but to prove that the entire nation is... well... roll up the sleeves, you got a lot of work to do. Before you have a compelling body of evidence (other than 5 or six Poles you met), you are just a story teller.
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
Actually, we can't use this parallel, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Racism rarely is.
this is approximate to the likelihood of finding stats telling us that polish people are rasist, that polish women are in fact ugly?
Actually, we can't use this parallel, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Racism rarely is.
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
You never met me, so you don't whether I'm stupid or smart. I haven't written anything racist. As a matter of fact racism is not acceptable to me. I merely asked you to provide some sources for some of the claims you made, such as:
- all Poles are racist
- Poland was conquered by Greeks and Turks
You were incapable to provide answers to any of the above, so you decided to resort to foul language. I still don;t understand how that makes me and idiot, or whatever else your "tolerant" personality makes you write about me.
I'm not writing an essay Darius you complete pleb, I am talking from my experience!
You never met me, so you don't whether I'm stupid or smart. I haven't written anything racist. As a matter of fact racism is not acceptable to me. I merely asked you to provide some sources for some of the claims you made, such as:
- all Poles are racist
- Poland was conquered by Greeks and Turks
You were incapable to provide answers to any of the above, so you decided to resort to foul language. I still don;t understand how that makes me and idiot, or whatever else your "tolerant" personality makes you write about me.
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
So you have nothing to support your claims and you call ME an idiot?
So you have nothing to support your claims and you call ME an idiot?
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
Do you have any stats from reputable source to support that claim?
You Polish might not be racist on this forum but the majority of your comrades that come to work in the UK are
Do you have any stats from reputable source to support that claim?
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
Notice https://polishforums.com/life/poles-racist-1668/6/ and please, provide the answers.
notice how i said polish women are ok, meaning that they dont seem to be as racist, i wasnt saying they were attractive
Notice https://polishforums.com/life/poles-racist-1668/6/ and please, provide the answers.
z_darius
23 Oct 2007
Life / Poles are not racist [873]
Could you name some major battles and/or wars won by Greeks over Poles?
As an additional exercise, could you describe the Turkish conquest of Poland?
Would you prefer to write about Polish-Ottoman War (1672–1676) or The Siege of Vienna?
On the racial issues though, I fully agree with you. I see no place for it in any civilized society.
Are are you so bitter because you were conquered by the greeks, the turks
Could you name some major battles and/or wars won by Greeks over Poles?
As an additional exercise, could you describe the Turkish conquest of Poland?
Would you prefer to write about Polish-Ottoman War (1672–1676) or The Siege of Vienna?
On the racial issues though, I fully agree with you. I see no place for it in any civilized society.
z_darius
21 Oct 2007
z_darius
21 Oct 2007
Life / Famous Polish music and musicians [48]
Great tunes, but... their instruments sound much better than their vocal.
It maybe actually good that the vocal drowns in the music, but still, their sound engineer could use some help form a pro.
Have you heard of Norden
Great tunes, but... their instruments sound much better than their vocal.
It maybe actually good that the vocal drowns in the music, but still, their sound engineer could use some help form a pro.
z_darius
19 Oct 2007
News / What's the stupidest question asked about Poland? [414]
A question asked by an American woman at a sight of two Polish construction workers (working on her house) reading a Polish newspaper during lunch break:
can they really read?
A question by a Texan woman at the sound of my accent:
Do all Poles speak with British accent?
A question asked by an American woman at a sight of two Polish construction workers (working on her house) reading a Polish newspaper during lunch break:
can they really read?
A question by a Texan woman at the sound of my accent:
Do all Poles speak with British accent?
z_darius
19 Oct 2007
Language / Having a really hard time with Polish cases [59]
The rules of Polish grammar in tabular formats (at least most of them). The rules are explained in both Polish and English.
Good luck: free.of.pl/g/grzegorj/gram/gram00.html
The rules of Polish grammar in tabular formats (at least most of them). The rules are explained in both Polish and English.
Good luck: free.of.pl/g/grzegorj/gram/gram00.html
z_darius
19 Oct 2007
Language / Ways of Learning Polish (courses, lessons) [21]
With 1/4 Polish background you can only get a 25% discount ;-)
Can anyone tell me where I could learn Polish for free ? I'm 1/4 Polish and I'm really interested in learning the Polish language.
With 1/4 Polish background you can only get a 25% discount ;-)
z_darius
19 Oct 2007
Language / Polish sayings [236]
It can also be used to express astonishment, disbelief.
I'd say:
what's good for the goose is NOT always good for the gander.
- Gosc w dom, woda do zupy. (when the guests arrive thin the soup with water)
- Jak sie nie ma co sie lubi, to sie lubi co sie ma. (If you can't have what you like, you have to like what you have.
"Żeby Cię kaczka kopła"
The proper Polish word for "kopła" is "kopnęła"
I think it's an insult.
The proper Polish word for "kopła" is "kopnęła"
I think it's an insult.
It can also be used to express astonishment, disbelief.
Co wolno wojewodzie to nie tobie smordzie!
My dad always says this, its hard to translate though. Maybe someone can help.
My dad always says this, its hard to translate though. Maybe someone can help.
I'd say:
what's good for the goose is NOT always good for the gander.
- Gosc w dom, woda do zupy. (when the guests arrive thin the soup with water)
- Jak sie nie ma co sie lubi, to sie lubi co sie ma. (If you can't have what you like, you have to like what you have.
z_darius
18 Oct 2007
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]
@AmirahJanowitz
if you want to learn abot "antisemitism" in Poland, then you may start gently here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Kalisz
The try the ones below:
amazon.com/Zegota-Irene-Tomaszewski/dp/1896881157/ref=sr_1_ 2/105-1386016-2284430?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192735520&sr=1-2
amazon.com/Karski-How-Tried-Stop-Holocaust/dp/0471145734/re f=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-1386016-2284430?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192735400&sr=1-2
btw. what is your native language?
@AmirahJanowitz
if you want to learn abot "antisemitism" in Poland, then you may start gently here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Kalisz
The try the ones below:
amazon.com/Zegota-Irene-Tomaszewski/dp/1896881157/ref=sr_1_ 2/105-1386016-2284430?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192735520&sr=1-2
amazon.com/Karski-How-Tried-Stop-Holocaust/dp/0471145734/re f=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-1386016-2284430?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192735400&sr=1-2
btw. what is your native language?
z_darius
18 Oct 2007
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]
Good point and I came its iteration (but don't remember the source):
history teaches us that history teaches us nothing.
If the future mirrors the past then we all end up being ourselves forever.
Good point and I came its iteration (but don't remember the source):
history teaches us that history teaches us nothing.
z_darius
18 Oct 2007
USA, Canada / What do Polish people think of the USA [287]
It looks like you never had much of a health problem. Good for you and I wish you all the best.
But... ask around and see what people have to say. The insurance company will eventually find that a bad case of flu (you may have had years before you make a new claim) could have influenced your current condition. Under such circumstance, if, at the time of signing up for a new health insurance policy, you did not include every single minor malady you may have suffered your health insurance claims may be worth less than the paper they are written on. Add to that all the treatments that insurance companies may deem experimental and you now have a pretty good picture of your choices: keep your house or get the medical care you need.
We like private health insurance because we have choices.
It looks like you never had much of a health problem. Good for you and I wish you all the best.
But... ask around and see what people have to say. The insurance company will eventually find that a bad case of flu (you may have had years before you make a new claim) could have influenced your current condition. Under such circumstance, if, at the time of signing up for a new health insurance policy, you did not include every single minor malady you may have suffered your health insurance claims may be worth less than the paper they are written on. Add to that all the treatments that insurance companies may deem experimental and you now have a pretty good picture of your choices: keep your house or get the medical care you need.
z_darius
18 Oct 2007
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]
I'm sure there were plenty of those. The issue though is the definition of plenty. To some 2 is plenty and two too many. To others "plenty" carries a connotation of majority. That of course was not the case in Poland. As it was not the case in Hungary where about 1/2 million Jews were sacrificed to save only 1000 rich and influential Jews. Is then 1000 out of 500,000 plenty?
there were plenty of poles killing jews to save themselves and their own families.. don't you all fool yourselves. not all things were all that peachy.
I'm sure there were plenty of those. The issue though is the definition of plenty. To some 2 is plenty and two too many. To others "plenty" carries a connotation of majority. That of course was not the case in Poland. As it was not the case in Hungary where about 1/2 million Jews were sacrificed to save only 1000 rich and influential Jews. Is then 1000 out of 500,000 plenty?
z_darius
18 Oct 2007
z_darius
18 Oct 2007
USA, Canada / Canadian wanting Polish Citizenship? [30]
If only one parent is a Polish citizen then the child's citizenship is not necessarily automatic. That is actually the parents' decision which citizenship the child will have. A child in this situation may, however, apply for the Polish citizenship if he/she is between 16 and 17 years and six months of age. After that, it is all an individual case. Persons whose only one parent has Polish citizenship are treated favorably in respect to their Polish citizenship applications.
Note: don't treat the above as legal advice. Call Polish consulate/embassy to make sure all the details are clear.
There is a "citizenship continuity" principle in the Polish law. That means that: if your grandparents (from both the mother and the father side) were Polish born then their children are automatically Polish citizens. If this applies to your situation then you are a Polish citizen.
If only one of your parents is Polish born in Poland - you are also a Polish citizen
If only one parent is a Polish citizen then the child's citizenship is not necessarily automatic. That is actually the parents' decision which citizenship the child will have. A child in this situation may, however, apply for the Polish citizenship if he/she is between 16 and 17 years and six months of age. After that, it is all an individual case. Persons whose only one parent has Polish citizenship are treated favorably in respect to their Polish citizenship applications.
Note: don't treat the above as legal advice. Call Polish consulate/embassy to make sure all the details are clear.
How easy is it to obtain a Polish passport if your grandparents were Polish born (parents were Canadian born)?
There is a "citizenship continuity" principle in the Polish law. That means that: if your grandparents (from both the mother and the father side) were Polish born then their children are automatically Polish citizens. If this applies to your situation then you are a Polish citizen.
z_darius
18 Oct 2007
Life / Racism in Poland - the future [441]
Have you ever checked the number of Poles honored in Yad Vashem, compared to the number of people from other countries?
When you finally do, do you realize that Poland was the only country where helping Jews meant automatic death sentence, right there on the spot? Inspite of that, well... check those numbers in Yad Vashem.
Oh, and while you are researching the topic, you may also want to check info about ZEGOTA (no other occupied country had a similar organization) and Jan Karski. That ought to tell you something about the love UK (and US) had for Jewish victims of Germany during WW2.
There is more, but for now take the baby steps I suggest above.
I read some Poles tried. but UK Holland the low countries sweeden and denmark help the most.
Have you ever checked the number of Poles honored in Yad Vashem, compared to the number of people from other countries?
When you finally do, do you realize that Poland was the only country where helping Jews meant automatic death sentence, right there on the spot? Inspite of that, well... check those numbers in Yad Vashem.
Oh, and while you are researching the topic, you may also want to check info about ZEGOTA (no other occupied country had a similar organization) and Jan Karski. That ought to tell you something about the love UK (and US) had for Jewish victims of Germany during WW2.
There is more, but for now take the baby steps I suggest above.