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Oathbreaker   
3 Feb 2022
News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [555]

@Vlad1234
Sounds weird, cause the schism that divided Orthodox and Catholic was with regard to appointment of Bishops. (That it was bishop of Rome a.k.a Pope that had the right to administrate it as a prime minister of the kingdom of heaven of earth, vs Byzantine Emperor appointing bishops within Byzantine empire. Here the perspective of earthly vs divine got in to conflict. Preferring earthly solutions and basically having a king/emperor who isn't Jesus Christ decide such things. Doesn't sound very Christian when you think about it.

I am no expert on orthodox theology so, I am open to hear if I misunderstand something or not
Oathbreaker   
3 Feb 2022
News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [555]

@Vlad1234
"I don't know if Poles still hate Orthodox Christians as much as in the past."

What did you mean by that then? Please explain
Oathbreaker   
3 Feb 2022
News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [555]

@Vlad1234
I have yet to meet a Pole who hates anyone based on Orthodoxy. I hear a lot about English negative vibes towards catholics, I heard Irish vibes about protestants. I heard bad vibes about muslims from Poles. Yet to hear bad vibes about Orthodox. Only I have heard about Orthodox is criticism of them, and that's with regard to politics and placing a emperor or king above their church, and leaving matters of the church in their hands which sounds ridiculous to me. Since Jesus Christ have told us, why have other lords when God is the lord of lords. Or something similar in this manner. (This is not a direct citation, just writing what I remember)

Largest conflict Poland has had with Orthodox Church (more strictly conflict with Russian state power who decided that) was forced transformation of churches from catholic to Orthodox during Russian partition. Later it was tried to amend that by transforming them back that provoked anger and worse relationship with Ukrainians (maybe Belarusians too?)

Seeing that one of Christianities greatest triumphs was defeating the pagan Roman Empire (which massacred Christian's in circuses through crucifixion and letting animals eat them alive). So seeing the Orthodox Church trying to put an emperor or king as head of their state questions their legality wether they truly belong to the kingdom of heaven to be honest. Correct me if I am wrong
Oathbreaker   
2 Feb 2022
UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [437]

Forums are exactly for this purpose - to rant and to "troll", trolling being defined as anything others don't like.

No it's not, can't you pay for circus tickets if you really want to experience it so much?

@Tanya1
No need to be polite with me, I am Polish (born in Norway), a catholic (papist is what you there in England call us?) and got a Scottish friend with great distaste of the royal household. So you can start swinging all you want love
Oathbreaker   
2 Feb 2022
UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [437]

if you want your country to be educated, progressive

Why would anyone want that? Except for inferiority complexed arrogant teachers who gaslight an female audience to increase their chance of spreading their DNA without any regard for society and it's health?

Just check out Karl Marx's bio and you will understand it better.

Self-destructive patterns for the U.K? Why should I stop you?
Oathbreaker   
30 Jan 2022
History / Question on Poland's szlachta clan admission [26]

@Lenka
Depends, when speaking bloodlines, family dynasty etc and comparing with each other it's to assess proximity or distance with regard to each other and wether some old feuds are still going on.

Pride&arrogance however based solely on that is quite damning as it put's a very high bar to surpass. Especially if it's only for the purpose of bragging, then it becomes a mute point.

For nobility in general, gaining honor, reputation, renown and achievements score a lot higher then money.

Saying that it can't be inherited is like annulling said family's achievements. Especially in the eyes of the beholder, perspective is different on such matters.

It's not only what one individual earns (that's like medals etc) nobility is earned for all future lineage. As long as traditions are uphold
Oathbreaker   
30 Jan 2022
History / Question on Poland's szlachta clan admission [26]

@pawian
Not very noble tho, such connections are not meant to be bought but earned.

It disgusts me internally when people only think about money or status when talking about it. Such people have it harder to be anything close to it
Oathbreaker   
30 Jan 2022
History / Question on Poland's szlachta clan admission [26]

@pawian
Shamefully I must admit that there was a time when some noble families were bribed to adopt new members to increase their status. Which lead to adoption being unlawful, as there is no institution in place to regulate it. Only noble families themselves can keep each other in check and demask frauds.
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@Cojestdocholery
Correct, it equals Polish nationality
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
Po polsku / Dlaczego nie po drodze nam z polską prawicą [1391]

@pawian
A jak partia jest przeciwko pewnych gatunkach muzyki ale uważa że należy obywatelowi zdecydować którą muzykę woli słuchać. To ta partia jest wtedy antymuzyczna? Przestań pisać głupoty! xD
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@Cojestdocholery
Maybe he thinks the guys ancestry was from areas of the "wielkopolan" or "małopolan"

@Vlad1234
There are something called "false friends" linguistically. Cause of historical context
Ruski -> person with connection to old Kiev Ruś

Rosjanin-> Russian (in Russian context person affeliated with continuation of Kiev Rus, while from Polish perspective a person connected with principality of Moscovy that evolved in to modern day Russian Federation)

So to a Pole, a Belarussian, Ukrainian, Russians or Poles with eastern european ancestry can be called "Ruski"

Cause of said Poles disliking distancing from being Polish (and comparing to eastern slavs and not being considered western) can be taken as an slight, insult or provocation.
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
Po polsku / Dlaczego nie po drodze nam z polską prawicą [1391]

@pawian
Jest przeciwko temu aby państwo szczepiło, jakiekolwiek. Tu nie chodzi o to "tak lub nie" tylko: w jaki sposób, przez kogo, dlaczego, ile będzie kosztować, kto zapłaci i czy zadziała
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@Cojestdocholery
Russian historiography is heavily influenced by Soviet communist rhetoric. "Liberated" can mean everything from liberating working class from Polish nobility, landlords, shopkeepers (who decide prices...), beurocrats who are backed by the military to demand taxes and opresses, clergy who has authority on religious grounds (communism generally speaking only aknowledges itself as the only legitimate authority based on it's goals) and any other group/authority is to be fought without mercy (one of the reason power hungry control freaks find it appealing)

So yeah, from Soviet perspective taking away Nazi German control from Poland was liberating cause any Soviet control is liberating in their eyes.

While from Polish perspective wether the handcuffs being put on by a person speaking German about race or a Russian speaking about global equality doesn't make much difference except in living conditions and it's scope.

It's like comparing different prison facilities
North Korean vs American one
As an example
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
Po polsku / Dlaczego nie po drodze nam z polską prawicą [1391]

@pawian
Posłuchałem, i źle chyba słyszałeś. Bardzo przejrzyście mówi że Konfederacja niema na celu szczepić ludzi. (W roli partii politycznej!)

I że Konfederacja jest przeciwko temu aby używać zbyt słabo wytestowanych szczepień!

Możesz podać dokładnie które minuty w filmiku ci chodzi?
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@pawian
With regard to Mickiewicz, it's like native americans claiming him to be from their tribe simply if he was born in the U.S.A.

That's how absurd it sounds to Poles
Oathbreaker   
28 Jan 2022
Po polsku / Dlaczego nie po drodze nam z polską prawicą [1391]

@pawian

No jak tam panowie (...) z Konfy?

W związku z pracą i potrzebę wyjazdów za granicę w przyszłości się zaszczepiłem pierwszą dawką. Co innego jak pracodawca potrzebuję wsparcia, co innego jak PiS batem w kajdany chce nas wprowadzać tfu
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@Vlad1234
Any move against Lenin's body or statues is like a staple that they are no longer feared and are losing power/influence.

First sign of trouble/testing of power is removal of statues etc. Which is why power people are allergic to removal of such symbolism. It shows an inpending doom of them or first step in removing them from political scene. As long as Lenin is there, they can feel safe about their current situation, it's like a scout post. A watchtower, meant to signal about an inpending attack.

Since most attackers, attack such "nerve centers" first. Then one can sleep safe before taking it seriously.

Pearl Harbour was such a wakeup call watchtower. Just like twin towers for U.S.A

Very simererily with demands of conversion from Orthodoxy for Russians in the past and placing nukes on Cuba during the cold war.
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
Po polsku / Dlaczego nie po drodze nam z polską prawicą [1391]

@pawian
Kto mówi że gołąbek? ;p
Po prostu już 500 lat trochę starczy tego Polsko-Rosyjskiego konfliktu

A było by lepiej dla Polski i Rosji gdyby zmagania Rosji były skoncentrowane w stronę Iranu lub Indii lub dawnych republik radzieckich.

A ty wolisz aby to się wydłużyło tak aby PiS to bardziej wykorzystywał? xD
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
Po polsku / Dlaczego nie po drodze nam z polską prawicą [1391]

@pawian
Jak sprawy się toczą to było by zupełną głupotą gdyby cały sejm jednomyślnie to zrobił. Super Ukraińcy by się zapewne poczuli ale mogło by to nie potrzebnie wkurzyć Rosyjską stronę polityczną.

Patrząc na rozwój sytuacji, to Polska powinna stawiać na dialog z Rosjanami w sprawie rozwiązania konfliktu. Zachód nie ma tym interesu oprócz wykorzystanie sytuacji do własnych potrzeb. A my mamy niesamowitą szansę by stworzyć nowy rozdział w Polsko-Rosyjsko-Ukraińskich relacjach.

Jakby sprawa się rozjaśniła i uspokoiła, można by było wykorzystać swoje zasoby w innych sporach i problemach.
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@Vlad1234
I was more focused on how the topic was presented in the Russian Federation about, with regard to Nazi-Germany it was expected for the Soviet Union to be an opposing force internationally on the diplomatic scene, with the lack of Soviet discouragement cause of Soviet policy encouraging German expansion in to Poland.

It clearly showed Soviet foreign policy having goal of expanding in an Imperialistic manner which in the years of: 1944-1953 proved to be true.
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@Vlad1234
I guess you didn't know but, there was a heavy toll war between Poland and pre-Hitler Germany up to that point. Signing a "non-agression" read: -> not having conflict <-

Means also signing a truce with such matters.

Last time I checked Germany trained their tank crewmen in the Soviet union pre-1939

Can't remember German tank crewmen being hunted by Soviet border guards...

It went simply from open hostility without armed military warfare to "cold shoulder" and unwilling talks, yet Russians seem to present it like some form of birthday party
Oathbreaker   
27 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@Vlad1234
Are you misunderstanding things on purpose? Non-agression pacts in general are not alliances. Formally speaking, Nazi Germany and Soviet Union by signing the R-M pact tried to pretend it was merely a non-agression treaty broken in 1941. Yet evidance show that it wasn't only non-agression but, co-operation in dividing influence, spheres and exchange of information with regard of fighting their enemies.

It's a good sign that Russians are ashamed of it, by not wanting to be calling it for what it is. Yet it's reaching absurd levels of self-delusion if this continues
Oathbreaker   
26 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

Soviets never claimed moral superiority while at it.

Liberating the opressed working class doesn't ring a bell? Lol
Oathbreaker   
26 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@pawian
It's a Soviet symptom, trying to be morally superior by performing morally abhorant actions.

I don't know if it's guilt or them wanting to be morally good or just want a popular standing.

Russians want to copy cat Roman Empire or Mongolian Empire and expand as much as possible. Even at ones own expense to a higher degree then other peoples (which easily leads to disregard of human lives and self-destruction)

I only wish for them to find a goal of being a slavic state similarly to Poland, and not a semi/quasi roman/mongolian-empire
Oathbreaker   
26 Jan 2022
History / Why Poland is not Russia [192]

@Vlad1234
Neutral relations don't allow foreign submarines to dock and be supplied near Murmansk nor helping by breaking icebergs to help German subs to be transferred to the pacific to sink British and american convoys nor transferring loads of vital necesarry food supplies to help feed the German population. Collaborating secret services with regard to fight/eliminate Polish resistance movement.

Stalin tried to bide his time and wanted Germany to bleed out in the west with hope of repeating WW1 situation. It was gravely miscalculated (which also lead to greater army leadership independance post-1941 which lead to gaining a larger advantage for the red army grafually. While German leadership being blocked more and more not only by resources but, orders too.

Soviet envisioned Poland to be the wests pawn, just like nowadays the Russian perspective has been "NATO's lapdog"

Until Russians start thinking seriously and take Poland seriously there won't be much of any dialogue
Oathbreaker   
22 Jan 2022
News / New American Ambassador to Poland? [26]

@Novichok
Any group of people siding with the forces of evil with the goal of overturning the society and bringing chaos, ruin and destruction of the common man, laws and civilization are not to be trusted nor suitable for any office.

Those groups are a threat as they paralyze and destabilize nations + creates division to the advantage of said nations adverseries.

One word for that: "treason"