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Tacitus   
29 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

they run around with masks all the time because of the pollution

That too is a factor of course. Then again the air in some Polish cities can also be really bad at times when everybody uses their ovens, yet they do not wear masks.
Tacitus   
29 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

Western Europe is run by morons

The UK definitely, but most of the other Western European countries are run competently, it is just that they had no experience dealing with such a situation.

Taiwan and the other Asian countries on the other hand experienced a pandemic only a few years ago, and many safety measures we had to learn are completely normal for them, and of course their economies are not that interconnected. It is completely normal for them to wear masks in public places and while shopping. The government does not need to enforce anything there, you got already odd looks if you went without masks on the train even before the pandemic.
Tacitus   
29 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

The UK suffered such a high death toll because of the incompetence of their government. During the first wave, not only did they fail to act swiftly, they also send many old, hospitalized people back into retirement homes without making sure that they were no contageous, which led to an appalling death rate among the elders. They also never took adventage from being an island and introdzce border checks, and allowed people from high infectious countries like the US to fly in. Finally they also failed to introduce test regimes at airports when many other countries had done so long ago.

chroniclelive.co.uk/news/tv/gmb-piers-morgan-nadhim-zahawi-19570841.amp
Tacitus   
29 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

You think Germany has done better than UK?

Overall certainly. Significantly fewer deaths and cases relative to population size, and the British have suffered more economically.

bigissue.com/latest/uk-hit-harder-by-pandemic-poverty-than-in-france-and-germany/

The British government got the vaccine right, but has otherwise an appalling pandemic record. Remember, the PM bragged that he had been shaking hands with ICU patients and as a consequence fell seriously ill with Covid.

stupid EU commission who botched

To be fair, that seems to have been more the fault of the various diverging interest from the EU states than the commission. The poorer Eastern European countries who insisted on penny-pinching, the French who insisted that the EU would also buy large quantities from French companies who could not deliver and so on.
Tacitus   
27 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

differ on this various sources suggest that 70% vaccination is the threshold for herd immunity,

From what I have read, the problem appears to be that the new mutants are so insanely contageous that more than 70% will be required to achieve herd immunity.
Tacitus   
27 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

Cause there are a lot of studies that show they don't.

Such as? Because studies have shown that lockdowns do work.

reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-lockdowns-idUSKBN23F1G3

There seems to be a correlation in vaccination and a month or so of increased serious infection numbers]

For one, people seem to underestimate how many people need to be vaccinated in order to reach her immunity (around 80-90%). With maybe 25% being vaccinated, most European countries are still far away from her immunity. Because with 25% people vaccinated, there are still 75% who can catch the virus. Additionally there are new mutations that are even mlre infectious than the previous one. Finally there is also complacency involved, many countries have started to ease restrictions despite insufficient vaccination rates and are now paying the price.
Tacitus   
26 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

dust masks

I don't know how the situation in Poland is, but in Germany, people now wear FFP2 masks which offer significantly better protection to their wearer than "dust masks".

I don't take a virus with mortality rates similar to the common flu as a serious threat to my life.

With similar you mean up to 10 times as deadly?

it is thought to be substantially higher (possibly 10 times or more) than that of most strains of the flu.

Source:

hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

But yeah, what do those guys know compared to someone with a calculator... . The only reason why the death rate is still relatively low is because the strict anti-covid measures prevented our hospitals from being overwhelmed. Once no beds are available, people will die in droves as currently happening in Brazil.

And mortality rates are only part of the problem. An even greater number who survive the virus suffer from long covid, which as it seems can seriously screw up your life. A former classmate of mine (aged 31) got very sick half a year ago, and while she did not have to go to a hospital, she has yet to regain her sense of taste and smell, and is so far unable to resume her former fitness regime. And this is a relatively mild complication, compared to those who are unable to even walk stairs anymore after their illness is over. Heck, Brazil has seen a shocking number of children and young people die of the disease.
Tacitus   
26 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

Yes, I know that's the official narrative.

It is also pure logic. If you are sick with a highly virulent, airborne virus, you will also very likely infect those you share accomodations with. Additionally you are also a potential danger for anyone you meet.What is so difficult to understand about this?
Tacitus   
26 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

@Spike31

It would be understandable if only the person who refuses to wear a mask were to be infected, since that would be his choice. However he will also infect anyone living with him, including those who might be especially vulnerable.

@johnny reb

Indeed. Additionally where people sit and drink, they also often talk which as we know, increases chances of infection. One person with a false negative test could infect several others, possibly in different states. And all that for the right of sitting while drinking a coffee. Not being able to sit in a lounge is a small price to pay for the possibility of using air travel during a pandemic.
Tacitus   
26 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

As trivial as eating and drinking?

You don't need to sit for either. Not to mention that drinking coffee is hardly as essential.

why do you think eating outside the lounge is safer than inside

Because that way people are less likely to cramp together, instead they spread out on the airport. It is a safety measure that reduces risk while not seriously impacting anyone. I'd prefer to sit down for a nice coffee myself, but it is not going to ruin my day if that is not possible. But don't ask me why the government that this measure is necessary, yet refuses to close the churches.
Tacitus   
26 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

has a negative test in the last 72

A test is not 100% reliable. Why take a chance for something so trivial?
Tacitus   
26 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

This is insane.

More like common sense. Drinking a coffee is not worth infecting yourself or others.
Tacitus   
25 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

And thus way, way too high. Germany just had to introduce further measures to halt the spread, including a curfew. That churches are still open is honestly shocking, since they are among the first things that should be sut down.
Tacitus   
25 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

Is it true that in Poland churches are still open despite the high infection rate?
Tacitus   
22 Apr 2021
News / European News and Poland Thread 2 [693]

More like reconciling two opposing demands.

You can be a pacifist and you can say "Auschwitz never again!" But what do you do if someone else is creating a new Auschwitz and won't be stopped by words?
Tacitus   
22 Apr 2021
News / European News and Poland Thread 2 [693]

It was the Greens who decided to let the Bundeswehr loose against Yugoslavia....

Who could forget foreign minister Fischers' magnificent in which he pledged that Germany would do its' part to stop the mad butcher of Belgrade?
Tacitus   
21 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

you nurture the virus by making sure it can't burn itself out

That is not going to happen if we let it roam freely either. As stated numerous times, having suffered from it does not give you prolonged immunity. I apparantly had it and it my antibody count was close to zero a few months later. We also know that the chances of the virus mutating are increased by the number of people who get it. We also know from Brazil that even areas which had an infection rate of around 90% are still highly susceptible to mutations.
Tacitus   
21 Apr 2021
Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - Part 5 [990]

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Tacitus   
21 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

Are they forthcoming with information about where and how people were infected?

That is not the job of the hospitals to investigate, they are there for treatment. The governments have released statistics about how many people have likely got the virus while at work vs at home, but in most cases, it is impossible to concusively prove just where the infection happened.

Everything has its thresholds and limits

Indeed. Staying at home because of a tiny risk may be unreasonable. Wearing a small mask that does not impede you is not. You are after all not just endangering yourself, but also others who may live in close proximity to you who have yet to receive a vaccine and are thus even more vulnerable to a dangerous infection. I thought you have grandchildren? You want to be responsible for them having lost their sense of smell or taste, or worse?

Where is the information that people vaccinated against the flu should avoid each other? Or polio?

It is several times more infectious for starters. You can't catch Polio via breathing, thus a mask is unnecessary.

No vaccination can gurantee 100% safety, but most of them have been steadily improved to a rate close to it. Meanwhile the vaccination against Covid is still young, with most of them offering around 90% protection. Which is great, but not perfect.

support policies that simply nurture the virus?

You nurture the virus if you allow it to spread and mutate. If a variant manages to infect a person, you certainly do not want it to infect another one und multiply, thus you take precautions.We have seen what happens if you let the virus rampage in Brazil. First people got infected by the initial virus, and then believing themselves to be safe by a mutation.

Wearing masks in public transports and retirement homes should become common sense if not common policy like it already is in many Asian countries that experienced previous pandemics. This would also help reducing the deaths by flu among the old and vulnerable people.
Tacitus   
21 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

Andrew Hammel pointed out that in Germany information on who's getting infected and where and how are treated like state secrets

I'd like a source to that, it sounds like a nonsensical claim to me. Individual cases are of course confidential, but the hospitals in my city are very open about the number of patiences they are treating, how many have died, and how few beds are still available. The average age of ICU patients with Covid has declined significantly and is now around 56, which is a worrying trend.

for the reasons known

The reason is so simple thst even you should understand it. None of the vaccinations offer 100% safety, which means that there is a slim chance that even two vaccinated people could infect each other. The masks further reduce the risk of infection. Since that is the case, why wouldn't you wear it? Because it inconveniences you somehow?
Tacitus   
21 Apr 2021
Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - Part 5 [990]

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Tacitus   
21 Apr 2021
Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - Part 5 [990]

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Tacitus   
21 Apr 2021
News / Coronavirus in Poland [6454]

Poland, more people are currently dying from Covid-19 than almost anywhere else in the world

Well, mafketis has been posting shockingly high casualty rates for a while and Poland's infection rate is several times than Germany's (which is already high and putting a huge strain on ICU beds). Sadly, it looks like many people will die before they get their vaccination. The Polish government will have to answer a lot of tough questions when this is all over.
Tacitus   
16 Apr 2021
Off-Topic / Serbia etc. thread 2 [925]

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Tacitus   
16 Apr 2021
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

I suppose being refuted with facts every single time is just too frustrating. Then again, nobody forces him to go into those arguments wholly unprepared.

At least he refrains from writing truly mentally unhinged crap like he did before he got banned.

There are reasons to be critical of Sweden, especially because of its callousness during the Covid pandemie, but they are doing very well on most issues.
Tacitus   
15 Apr 2021
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

@Novichok

It is always impressive with how much opinion and how little knowledge you argue. You dont have any idea on how parties in Sweden have been arguing about asylum laws in the last decade. You would also know that statements like "80% are military-age men" simply do not reflect reality. In Germany male refugees made up only 60%, with men aged 18-40 making up less than 40% of all arrivals. Meanwhile 30% of all applicants are below the age of 4. Not exactly how you envision it, right?

de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/452165/umfrage/asylbewerber-in-deutschland-nach-geschlecht-innerhalb-altersgruppen/

de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/452149/umfrage/asylbewerber-in-deutschland-nach-altersgruppen/
Tacitus   
15 Apr 2021
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

The Russians never voted for the Soviets, the latter came to power via a coup. Nor did a majority of Germans vote for the NSDAP in free elections who certainly had no death camps in their election program. Nor were there elections in either country in 1936. You seem to lack even the simplest of historical education.

Sweden is famous for its' liberal asylum laws, and the parties that champions them continue to be reelected. Thus is seems that the people of Sweden agree with the current situation. Which is not surprising, since as pointed out to you, Sweden is a safe country with one of the highest standards of living in the world.
Tacitus   
13 Apr 2021
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

says he is "Minister of Justice

"Shadow" minister of justice, you should read up what that means. Violence by migrants is always a good topic for election campaigns, no matter how dire the situation truly is, and as pointed out, Sweden is not doing worse than most European countries.

crime in Sweden Paulina

I don't doubt that there are places in Sweden that are problematic, but you have such places in every country without them being indicative of the entire country. As pointed out, Sweden is overall a safe place for women which anyone who actually has been to Sweden could verify.
Tacitus   
13 Apr 2021
Polonia / Let's talk about Sweden and other Scandinavian countries [236]

This article explains the situation Sweden and why Richs' depiction of it as a rape capital is completely ridiculous.

google.com/amp/s/thelocal.se/20201006/how-do-swedens-rape-statistics-compare-to-europe/%3famp

In short, using the rape definition of other countries, the number or rapes reported in Sweden is thr European average.

Crime studies have also found no significant link between the arrival of refugees and the increase of rape reports.

google.com/amp/s/thelocal.se/20190529/increase-in-swedens-rape-statistics-cant-be-tied-to-refugee-influx-study-suggests/%3famp
Tacitus   
12 Apr 2021
Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - Part 5 [990]

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