News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

I wonder what percent of the Polish population is actually LGBT.. I'm curious if this 'trans' nonsense has swept Poland as well. I mean we do have a trans MP but she gets no respect. I remember reading one article headlined like 'parliament opposes ruling against gays' or something to that extent. I thought it was very unusual as the parliament is typically very conservative in Poland. I then realized that by 'parliament' they meant only 2 members - one of which was of course Gorodzka.

I really wonder how many Poles are admittedly homosexual vs how many identify as trans. I know there's a bit of Polish girls that are bi and there's a few gay guys but I wonder if like a census has ever been taken of this population.

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There are many conspiracy theories that can be attributed to population control - vaccines, normalization of LGBT culture, man made diseases, chem trails, wars, etc. I can kind of believe wars, man made diseases, and perhaps famines. I mean we do know that collectivization resulted in widespread famine and death in Russia and China - they certainly didn't do much to address the issue. Many people argue the Holodomor in Ukraine was purposely made by Stalin.

Quite frankly, some of the others seem rather far fetched to me. However, as I simply don't have enough evidence or sources on these topics, I can't make a decision one war or the other and there isn't much solid proof one way or the other - many of these are still in the theory phase.

I can tell you though that I wouldn't put anything past the government. After all, Henry Kissinger told congress in the 1970's that 2 billion people ought to be killed off because there's simply too many people.

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Exactly 98%-99% of the population DON'T act this way and are not LGBTQWERTY... Even the people who are fetishists like if they're into bondage or something they don't go around walking around in latex suits in public with their partners nor do they host parades. They do that stuff in the privacy of their home with their most public display being perhaps some private club or something.

The thing that upsets me the most is that these people are totally selfish. All they care about is their rights - me, me, me. They have absolutely no care or regard whether there are little children near the parade and whether their 'simulations' are appropriate. Anyone who challenges their views and beliefs and states that they don't agree is automatically labeled a bigot and homophobe - they don't even bother to have a debate about it because they are too selfish to have a shred of respect for other people's views.

I wish Poland had laws like those in Russia. At least in Russia you won't find books like 'Daddy's New Roommate' in school made for readers preschool to second grade. For Christ sakes, a child doesn't even know about hetero sex yet you're already inundating them with deviant sex. Pride parades are shut down right away and the people arrested and throw into buses. Problem solved - no pride parade. Russians even were smart enough to hire civilians as security to Olympics to make sure groups like Pussy Riot don't disrupt it - yet they did and then complained that they were arrested... If they didn't provoke the police and security forces they wouldn't of been arrested...

Life / Poland is safe to visit - "Daily Mail" [100]

Even though most of these are taken way out of context, I don't see a big problem with calling someone a pansy and stating that a sex worker made the choice to expose herself to a world of criminals, drugs, STDs, and all sorts of other nasty things. Also, talcum powder has been shown to cause cancer and there is talc that contains asbestos as well as asbestos free talc. Furthermore, Dr. Andrew Wakefield was a specialist in gastrology and a medical researcher.. We need more people in groups like Pegida fighting for a white Christian Europe - not less... and we certainly don't need groups like the EDL who are covertly funded by and merely doing the work of Zionists, the natural enemies of Arabs..

Also, it's a known fact at least here in the US that the Hasidic Jews - especially those on the East Coast are notorious for being involved in underage sexual abuse and pedophilia. There was even one case where a bunch of Hasidic Rabbis got caught with running an organ trafficking ring worth tens of millions of dollars - their sentences? 2 years...

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964k signatures boycotting target as of this morning:

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It's many reasons - but yes, I don't like it so I am planning on leaving - especially if Hillary wins. I'm mainly planning on leaving because the US is no longer what it was when I first came here. For one, European white Christians are now the ones being persecuted. Our money is taken, our morals are challenged, and our way of life is under constant assault. We can't even go by a roll of toilet paper at Target without being inundated with some transsexualism being throw in our face. I do not wish to live in a society like that anymore. Things have changed drastically and it's only getting worse and worse. I plan to have a family and I definitely won't expose my children to the gay propaganda, have them learning a common core curriculum, receive dozens of unnecessary vaccines, or be forced to accept ideas that are foreign to my family's Polish tradition and customs and our Roman Catholic faith.


The thing is I already speak fluent Polish, have property in Poland, have my entire family in Europe - mostly in Poland and would essentially just need to find work, learn the bureaucracy, and find out who the big players in Wroclaw are. It wouldn't take me long to get settled in plus I'd make sure I have around $100k after moving expenses to ride it out for a year or two while I'm getting settled in. Russia wouldn't be bad either as I speak a bit of Russian and could become fluent rather quickly although the wages for expats aren't nearly what they were 10-20 years ago. Japan and Singapore are too restrictive and it would be very hard for me to learn the language. I'd sooner take a Latin American country than even East Asian. I have a great job offer in Kazakhstan so that is one consideration for now and the move would be rather easy since the employers take care of a lot of the moving and settling in related costs and paperwork.

quote=Polonius3]There are also lesbos, butches, maso-sadists or is it sado-masochists, sodomists,
fetishists, metrosexuals et al[/quote]
I mean I guess I'd consider myself a metrosexual since I buy nice clothes and am kind of obsessed about my appearance. That has to do more related with my position and just because I generally like nice clothes, Swiss watches, Italian and British suits, stuff like that. I don't impose my beliefs on others though. I mean there is so many different sexual this, gender that it's like impossible to keep track of them all. I'm in my late 20s and quite frankly I haven't heard of most of these till the last few years. This is why I jokingly refer to it as LGBTADFKL;JQWER9IPJU - or basically any combination of LGBT plus a hitting a bunch of random keys. Of course, you won't see H for hetero or N for normal...

Thankfully, at least the majority of Polish society (at least according to the 2013 study I posted earlier) does NOT find homosexuality to be normal, would not accept a homosexual teacher, boss, coworker, nanny, etc. and does not support gay marriage.

Life / Poland is safe to visit - "Daily Mail" [100]


Hmm... a correlation between high Muslim populations and terrorist threats? Never!!

News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

Yeah Illinois is 2nd to only New Jersey from my understanding. However, NJ is far more friendly to corporations and businesses. Its crazy quite frankly I'm simply fed up with living in the US. I'm taking my money and moving elsewhere. It's getting worse and worse and worse. I mean honestly Poland, Eastern Europe and even Central Asia is starting to look more and more promising each day.

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I know. Luckily I have a job where I don't spend much of my time working and spend most of my time on Etrade, Polish Forums, youtube, watching the news, etc. It's really not about how long you work but rather how much you get done. I'm fairly young and I don't have a ton of corporate experience but I have had a lot of documented success and promotions in the years I do have under my belt. For me it's very easy for me to find a job although my particular specialty is a field that has lots of turn over and a very sink or swim environment. However, I know that definitely isn't the case with say like a speech pathologist, a cabinet maker, or an HR director.


Property values certainly bounced backed but they're still lower than they were at 2007 levels, at least here in Chicago and the suburbs. A lot of people did make a killing buying foreclosures but a whole lot more lost their homes by being unable to afford mortgages and property taxes. If you had a lot of cash during the recession it was great because you could pick up apartment buildings extremely cheap and rent every single unit out due to the decline of home ownership - which still hasn't rebounded since. In Illinois people were more affected by the ridiculous property taxes, which got raised even further, more than even mortgages - at least from the conversations I've had with my real estate agent. We've had droves of people leaving Cook County for surrounding suburbs and even states. For example, if you have a $1 mil home in say Park Ridge - an affluent Cook county suburb. You can expect $19k in property taxes - with that being raised by 4.25% every year over the next four years. By comparison, a $1 million home in Highland Park, the premier Jewish suburb of Lake County, will run you around $12k in property taxes with no further raises. This is still a crazy high amount compared to many other states where it's a fraction. A lot of real estate speculators simply had to sell their homes and not make any profit or even take a loss because they simply couldn't wait around for the market to rebound and pay 5+ years of property taxes in the mean time. With a home like the Park Ridge example, that'd be $100k over 5 years - and that's not even counting bills and upkeep to keep the house looking nice and pipes from bursting.

I know some Poles say Poland is Central Europe, some say Eastern Europe... I consider it one and the same. I would argue that our culture and society has more in common with Slavic Eastern European countries than more Germanic central Europe. It's really just semantics though.

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Because there's only 2 genders... also many places do have a 3rd 'family' bathroom. As someone who's family is involved in commercial construction, including government buildings, I can tell you this is just a waste of taxpayer money. Good for us, bad for taxpayers.

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True but even between the dot com burst and the great recession, home values were still very high. The dot com bubble didn't nearly have as hard of an impact on property values as the great recession. People's homes were their pride and joy and something that they worked for decades to pay off so they could live in comfortably. Now, according to many individuals having a nice family home paid off through decades of hard work is a bad thing - especially the redistribute the wealth types and those in the UN who have established Agenda 21 down to their local ICLEI branches - specifically say that suburban housing is against 'sustainable development' (sounds like a great thing till you read more into how it affects your daily life) and that having property is what primarily leads to social inequality.

I'd argue that corporate America stopped caring about its people at first with Clinton's trade deals and policies. This was further ruined by politicians that use societys' ignorance of economics to argue that over taxing big business is good for the country. If taxing businesses to hell and back was so great, than why have so many corporations, from large ones like Caterpillar to small ones like home remodelers, moved to other states or even abroad. Corporations that have been headquartered in the US for decades, even centuries, are increasingly moving abroad because quite frankly the taxes are too high. The 45%-47% people who do not pay federal income taxes fail to realize and understand this.

I think that around the same time - the doc com bubble, created a much different public view on social affairs like gay equality, homo marriage, etc. - not just in the US but throughout the West. During the gay 90's and into the early 2000's we were taught tolerance - which I can understand. However, this is no longer enough - now we are forced not just to tolerate these individuals but grant them special freedoms, change our laws and customs, and accept and like these people even if it contradicts with our morals, philosophies, or religion. Now, even countries like Poland are getting caught up in this as they seek to have better unity with the west. Polish society has always been a bit of an outlier in Europe - we have many of the liberal laws of the west but yet conservative thought and custom of eastern Europe.

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Absolutely. However, this is gradually being replaced by white guilt - especially throughout Obama's presidency. It's as if blacks can do no wrong and all the ills of the blacks are solely the white mans' fault.

The US, up until the Great Recession, use to totally honor hard work, saving, climbing the corporate ladder, and being a financial success. Now, it's looked as evil, unfair, and that the wealthy an individual worked hard to attain and save ought to be redistributed to those 'less fortunate' who did not care to work as hard or make sacrifices.

I may have a bit different worldview as I predominantly live in an ultra liberal democratic city.

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See the problem is that there is an all out assault on white European Christian heritage and traditions. The youth are cut off from their roots more and more everyday and having pride in one's Catholic European roots is increasingly demonized. The only people that are allowed to create pride groups according to their race are minorities. Unfortunately, younger generations like mine are constantly fed this hip hop garbage and MTV Jersey Shore and they think that's how society ought to be for people of their age. Of course the Jewish execs have no problem with this because they keep their culture, sexuality, religion, and traditions in tact. Homosexuality, promiscuity, mixed marriages - hah! that's for the goys! Instead of learning how to play the accordion and sing Polish folk songs, the youth prefer to appropriate other cultures and sag their pants and march alongside BLM terrorists. Which I may add that whole custom actually came from jails and prisons - gay prisoners who wished to be penetrated would sag their pants as a sign that they want it up the butt. Now black people start suing airlines when a flight attendant asks an individual to show some decency and pull his pants up. Like I said before - the whites out to organize a demonstration whenever the Black Lives Matter terrorists are in town and shot 'Pants Up - Don't Loot' to counter their 'Hands up Don't Shoot' slogan. I see clips of ultra liberal girls crying at rallies because some illegal person got deported for breaking the law - their argument is that they're human beings and they shouldn't be told where they can and can't live. Obviously, she's never been to Mexico who's immigration laws make ours look like a joke. The West is truly going to hell in a hand basket. Every year there is more PC, more degeneration of the economy and morals, more assault upon the church and Christians, more civil liberties and rights being trampled on, more intervention by the government in everyday life, more poison in our food, water, and even the sky, more media lying about reality and news outlets giving a false view of what's really going on, more corruption - I mean now even police can literally take your money, car, and house even before you're charged and found guilty of a crime (i.e. google civil forfeiture or the city of teneha as an example). Even recently a Burmese man who was a manager for a Christian rock group had $53,000 taken from him by the police who accused him of being a drug smuggler even though he had proof the money was a result of donations and ticket sales. He was only charged with a broken taillight and no drugs, guns, or anything else was ever found. Yet, this is totally legal for the police to do. it's really bad and it's only getting worse. I mean nothing really surprises me anymore - I really wouldn't be at all surprised if one day the government started rounding up white Christian conservatives.

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Absolutely. Russia is even more strict than Poland - there's a total ban on pride parades and homosexual propaganda. I don't know why these individuals, which represents 1-2% of society, insist on forcing the remaining 98-99% to accept that their perversions are totally normal. Back in the 90's, it was all about tolerance - but now that's no longer enough - now we're forced to accept everything that's foreign and disgusting it and if we question it because it contradicts our own morals or religion, we're automatically labeled as some crazy religious homophones.There's plenty of countries for them to go to and have their gay marriage and adoption - leave Poland alone.

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It's actually an ancient Roman salute...

Another example of free speech banned in the West - in Germany using this salute is punishable by up to 3 years in prison as are dozens of symbols including the Celtic Cross, certain runes but of course no ban on Al-Qaeda flags.

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Crow,

Unfortunately in the west homo couples are allowed to have kids. I don't know if it's the same in Poland - are homos allowed to adopt kids?


The law may provide legal protection for LGBTADFQWER[OUI people but that doesn't mean that most people agree with it.

According to these sources, 60% are against civil partnerships, 67% are against homosexual marriage and 87% against adoption by homo couples. Furthermore, well over half of people would not accept a gay or lesbian teacher (75% for lesbian, 77% for gay), boss (53% for both lesbian and gay), coworker (50% for gay, 53% for lesbian), or nanny (over 80% for both gay and lesbian)

cbos.pl/SPISKOM.POL/2013/K_024_13.PDF

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Julia Serano has defined cissexual as "people who are not transsexual and who have only ever experienced their mental and physical sexes as being aligned", while cisgender is a slightly narrower term for those who do not identify as transgender (a larger cultural category than the more clinical transsexual).

So is that like males who have a penis and identify as males but don't want to be called a man and now everyone needs to be sensitive and call them cissexual? I am so confused lol. Then what is cisgender now? According to Wiki - Cisgender (often abbreviated to simply cis) is a label for those whose experiences of their own gender agree with the sex they were assigned at birth. It may also be defined as those who have "a gender identity or perform a gender role society considers appropriate for one's sex."[1] It is a complement to the term transgender.

I never thought I'd live to see the day where PC has gotten so out of hand that it's not incorrect to call someone a man or woman. Would the PC term for a hetero male be like cissexual/cisgender male then?

I guess hetero is no longer good enough. If LGBTQASDFJKL; groups were so inclusive why aren't they more inclusive of heterosexuals? I don't see an H for hetero or even a C for cissexual in any of their many groupings and labels.

News / Poland directly threatened by ISIS. Do Islamists planning terrorist attacks in Poland? [390]

I recently saw an article with a jihadi in Syria posing in a picture in my city (Wroclaw). Can't remember the news outlet that reported on this though...

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Orthodox priests are allowed to be married.

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Homosexuality is highly forbidden in Judaism - yet they propogate this in our society because as they say 'That's for the goys!'

Brother Nathaniel - Why Jews Push Gay Marraige
youtube.com/watch?v=0yLbF0BtZs4

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They're always adding letters... just a week or two ago I heard the word 'cissexual'... I don't think i even want to know what that means..

every letter except N for Normal...

News / Poland directly threatened by ISIS. Do Islamists planning terrorist attacks in Poland? [390]


John Schindler, a professor at the U.S. Naval War College and a former National Security Agency analyst, argues in his book "Unholy Terror: Bosnia, Al-Qa'ida and the Rise of Global Jihad" that's not true.

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Jon I will tell you from personal experience - the police and the prosecutors don't give a crap about, you, your rights, your property, or anything else... they only start waddling their fat lazy asses once the media or some politician forces them to - and even then its just for show and then things go back to usual several months later. Poland just wants to appear like a Western nation with the same ideals - while gay rights might be protected under law - it doesn't mean that the police are going to stop Catholicism from criticizing homosexuality or from people holding up zakaz pedalowania signs... most Poles do not like gays

News / Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights? [1169]

The law guarantees it but that doesn't mean it practiced... Poland is far more xenophobic and homophobic than countries like the US, Germany, France, England, etc. Most people prefer to keep it that way

God do I hate MTV.... Although early 1990's Beavis and Butthead's music video commentary was rather entertaining..

Shows like I'm 16 and Pregnant and Jersey Shore exemplify the worst of society.

Vladimir Putin once said coming back from a visit to Austria along the lines of - 'I saw the gays, I saw the transsexuals - we don't want that in our country and that's our choice'

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The only genocide was of Serbs committed in the valley prior to July 1995. The figure of 8,000 Bosnians dead is simply impossible because there simply


You have got to be kidding me... All the top Al-Qaeda dudes including Bin Laden himself had Bosnian citizenship. Bosnia was the cradle of European Jihadism - even the US State Department is now admitting this. Look up the case with the Saudi High Council - how the Saudi government funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to jihadists in Bosnia. Bosnia was a fantastic location for jihadists as they could launch attacks on the rest of Europe - now Bosnia has been replaced by Brussels as the center of European jihadism thanks to multi-kultism.

News / Poland -- Europe's only counterweight to Russia [271]


So true. I find it laughable that the US will support tyrannical governments as long as they don't the US or allies problems. Yet the ones that oppose the US are called not allies or friends but rather evil and a 'threat to freedom.' Oftentimes, this might be the same government - in one decade the US supports the dictator, then invades him the next. The US supported Saddam in the Iran-Iraq war, only to invade him a bit later and eventually have him killed.


Russia is warming up to China and Iran a lot in everyway - politically, economically, militarily, etc. These countries' leaders have realized that the US is not as strong as it use to be. China's economy will overtake the US in a short time as their economic growth is far higher - it's just a matter of time. During the cold war, and even after it, US military leaders knew that if a future large scale war broke out between the US and other power, the US troops would be outnumbered hence the US focused more on having the technological edge. The US troops had advancements like GPS, night vision, accurate missiles, superior jets, etc. which are now pretty much universal in Armies. We've even seen recently how an Iranian drone was flying over a US aircraft carrier for quite a while before it was even detected. Many US and NATO military leaders state that they'd be unlikely to stop a Russian invasion - especially if they were engaged on two fronts (say China or North Korea attack from Pacific).

Poland, unfortunately due to it's geography on the world stage, wouldn't fare so well as it's essentially a buffer zone between NATO and Russia.


Up until recently - now Russia is increasingly on the offensive. They're starting to get back to the old Soviet model of building bases overseas.

Poland is in a weird position in all of this. It can't make too good of a relationship with Russia without alienating NATO and the EU. After all, that's essentially why the war in Ukraine broke out. The people in western Ukraine were more pro-EU while the people in eastern Ukraine more pro-Russia. Poland isn't quite in this same situation as most Poles have a fear of Russia due to our history. Nonetheless, I would love for Poland to make better relationships with Russia - especially trade as Poles (especially those employed in agriculture) would benefit quite a bit.

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Haha yup - like the 'Democratic People's Republic of Korea'

It's funny to watch the sub Saharans attempt to establish 'democracy' - savage oppressive klepocrats replacing slightly less savage oppressive kleptocrats.


Well, it was destroyed by American politicians with bankers and their lobbyists/influence groups pulling the strings and egging them on.

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Sad to have Polish fraudsters like that...

Personally, I think that the democratic system is oftentimes overrated. Here in the US we supposedly have so much freedom but yet we're total slaves. Our democracy has turned into socialism where wealth is redistributed through taxes, tens of millions of lazy people, who simply don't want a job (80 million ages 16+ according to the BLS) but yet we need to provide for them. I say let them starve and freeze their butt off for a while and I bet they'll go looking for a job on their own after a few days with an empty stomach. India is regarded as the world's largest democracy yet most people are dirt poor. Meanwhile, countries who's politicians aren't constantly thinking about election, reelection, and satisfying lobbyists because of earlier campaign contributions can focus on other things. Many countries that have a very high standard of living along with low taxes actually have dictators/monarchs, or presidents who have been serving for decades at the helm - Qatar, Kuwait, Libya under Gaddafi, U.A.E..

Quite frankly, I wish PiS would change the laws to extend the terms of a president and sejm members so politicians don't spend 1/2 the time they're in office worrying about elections. Wishful thinking though....

News / What kind of Poland do most Poles want? [101]

... and lazy or hardworking, free loader or contributor, worthy or scum, citizen or alien, patriot or traitor..

News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

I really don't know enough about the political situation in Poland. Most of what I gather is through what I read here, conversation with my grandparents, and somewhat the news. Are you talking about Mateusz or Kornel Morawiecki?