UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


i'm not blaming the immigrants i'm blaming our 'immigration' policies.


your not wrong there mate!!!


i agree and thats why the money is better spent on getting these people of their asses and into jobs irispective of whether they want to or not!!


the only thing i will say is that if you are British, then your are entitled to British benefits, i don't think we should be housing 'foreign nationals' for free, its just my view

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what i'm saying is 'british people' should be the only people allowed to have 'british benefits' and what i'm talking about are the people who can't work, injured or whatever, i think you know what i mean.


yeah true, i totally agree so lets stop giving our money to brussels to hand out to countries that say they need it!!!!


ow yes

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now now ladies, let's have a discussion where it dosen't get personal :)

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mate you would have a valid statement there if you put 'immigrants' instead of where you put 'poles' it just makes you sound like a biggot. I can see that you are clearly concerned about the immigration policies of this country like myself but don't give anybody fuel for the fire

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

Well i can't believe that anybody is really shocked from todays revolation that immigrants don't boost the UK economy at all and in fact only decrease the chances of british people from being able to find a job.

This dosen't mean i want all immigrants out but yet again points out that we need 'CONTROLLED IMMIGRATION' into this country, both from inside and outside of the EU. So now that most of the 'pro open door immigration' people can't argue that 'the immigrants contribute massively to the uk economy' what can they say now??? hhhhmmmm

if it wasn't so serious i would be laughing :) Now that we know what we know its time for action instead of argument!!!!

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

lol, it seems so :)

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hopefully by that time we have our immigration policy sorted so that people who don't help our economy or better our country cannot come in. Whether or not Poles stay or go home i couldn't care less, as long as overall the UK benefits from having foreign workers.

As far as i'm concerned anybody who wants to get a good education, decent job etc etc ism ore than welcome to come to the UK. Anything else then they can stay in their own country or find another nation to scavinge off.


Well good for Scotland, immigration is fine as long as its controlled

UK, Ireland / A collection of noimmigration's threads or "STAY AWAY from BRITAIN" [978]

what are ou talking about the rule that 'people can move freely within the eu' well yes i did no this, yes i disagree with it :). Exactly why we should have a referendum on the EU and also a policy for immigration that betters the country not the rest of the world :)

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]


THe British Labour Government, you know the bad thing, they haven't even got the balls to come back and sort out their mess, my mother always told me to keep my **** in order, looks like Tony's mother didn't teach him that :)

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how about the solution being in this case, not cause the problem by joining the EU, the population of the UK didn't even get to vote on it, WE STILL DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!


couldn't agree more, he's always complaining how people box and categories the Polak's, hay greg take a look at your own words :)

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]

your probably right :)

p.s. i was just checking out Justysia's comment on the pictures being bent in the profiles and looked at yours, you have a picture of your shoes??? did that photo go wrong, maybe somebody forgot where your head was, lol, what is that about?? or are they just new or something, haha

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and of course your a specialist in the area of British economics so you would know who and who does not contribute or not contribute i'm sure, NOT!!!!!.

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you find shoes more interesting than faces??? lol, do you look down at peoples feet when your talking, haha, imagine that :) sorry i'm just having a chuckle to myself, i understand what you mean though, i think :) Girls are always so proud of their shoes yet guys just buy them and ruin them and throw them away again


well i think many would disagree with you there :)

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lol i guess its like guys talking about the best football boots to get:) thats the only analergy i can think of!!!


i wasn't slagging it off just asking why, thats all, no harm or offense meant

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awful spelling of course what i meant there was anal energy, uuummm no actually i think i'l stick with analogy, hahah.


ouch, that hurts, its like when you say to your mate, 'thats a new shirt is it mate, who are you trying to impress tonight??' and he goes 'nah, i've had it for ages you just haven't seen me wear it'

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

For a nation that has been through so much throughout history, you would have thought that, white supremacy, racism against skin colour and religious groups etc etc would not be something to be worried about in Poland. However it seems there is a sleeping beast within Poland.

For example the 88 gang or 'Hile Hitler' as the 8=H in the alphabet. How backwards is that, the persicution and suffering of the Polish people throughout the occupation by both Germany and Russia, yet still there are polish using the Nazi salute and are proud to put up the symbol of the Nazi's in their houses or in their haircuts or on their clothes.

I have come accross Polish people in this country, the uk, who are openly racist and don't mind saying it. Seems pretty clear to me that the Polish want Poland for the Polish and them alone. I cannot begin to understand the racial problems in poland but i know one thing, it needs to be sorted out before the situation gets worse, its already spreading throughout the football in Poland, gangs of racist thugs who go to matches to give a kickin to any unsusecting foreigner who decides to take in a game!!!.

Finally i'd like to finish with something that even shocked me and kept me quite for five or ten minutes through dis-belief. A 'POLISH GUY' said 'I think what hitler did to the jews was good' Interviewer 'so your saying that the gasing of the jews was a good thing??' polish guy 'yes, i don't think he killed enough of them, it should be happening now'

that summed it up for me, don't know about you!!!

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

ok mate, show all your scary videos etc etc, do you understand one thing about Islam?? i doubt it very much, a protest here and there, isn't going to do much believe me. We've been bombed, shaken and steered and we still stand strong.

Terrorism and Muslims who wish to cause harm to our nation in the UK are mislead and not a true representation of Islam at all.

my question to you Lukasz is this, 'what is the greatest Jihad??' any true Muslim will tell you the correct answer, any misled misguided Muslim will tell you another. So maybe you can tell me the correct answer :)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


well mate as far as Britain is concerned, last i knew, more than 60% of Muslims agreed with the actions of 9/11 and about 25% were prepared to fight 'the holy war' against the non believers or infidels' so if you think its bad in Kosovo you want to try here in the UK.

As for what they ask for well, they have to get it don't they, there is a fine line between picking out those who are extreme, not just in a terrorist sense, it could include wanting their own state, from those who are everyday Muslims. It is the ignorant who are ticked into believing that all Muslims want this sort of thing around the world.

You see it may not be the Muslims separating themselves from society, it may be the ignorance of that society that alienates them from the rest of the country, whether that be the UK, Poland or even Kosovo :)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

lol well thats one way of concluding it!!!!

Hay mate don't get me wrong, i hate the extremists, i hate terrorists, i would hang them all, believe me, there not even worth a trial, they should die like the dogs they are.

However i feel that 'Muslims' and 'Islam' have labels stuck to them which are not true and do not represent the majority of the religion and the people of the Islamic faith. I hate religion too and i don't care for Jews, Islamics, Christians etc etc i think its a bag of S**t to be honest and causes a lot of trouble in the world.

whether your a Bosnian Arabic dog or a Serbian Christ worshipper i couldn't give two S**ts as long as your a decent person, its just a shame the rest of the world can't see it that way, although i guess thats the narrow mindedness of a lot of religion :)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


firstly mate, its the Kuran,


what do you mean by that mate???


so you think they want to sit everybody down, democratically, to say, hay look Islam is the only way, the only life is the one that god decides for you. Look i don't think so.


yeah i'm sure they could, like how to burn people alive in their homes, shoot thousands of innocent civilians and leave them in a ditch, rape and pillage Bosnian villages. I can see where your coming from with the learning part there!!!!


no of course not, Serbs have done bad things, that does not make every serb bad. :)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


well i can't convince you to change your judgments as you will do them regardless as its natural to you to think that way.


whatever there is no excuse!!!


agreed its not racism

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


I have never said the UK is an icon of tolerance, you will never hear may say such a thing.


so i'm not allowed to comment as a forum member, i know about all the problems in the UK and i don't deny them, however ths topic is about discussing the issue in Poland s it not??? so i was just giving my views :)

If you want me to talk about the UK thats fine, however i would probably be told of for going 'off topic' so whats the point :)


i like the personal touch, i don't know if its to grab my attention or show that your pissed with me, probably the later.

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

I think its important to remember through all this discussion is that, yes Poland has racial problems, however its not the only country in the world. For people to say there is no problem in Poland is stupid, like them, its rather obvious there is a racial problem in poland. Its also well documented the sorts of things that go on there. Just to give an example of othe nations firstly, look at the UK, with attacks on immigrants etc etc, secondly look at Russia which is in a worse situation than the UK or Poland. Do you know people are actually training to fight a war against the 'foreigners' inside of Russia!!!!

P.S. Mali i think your comments to me were rather over the top, in fact i don't know if you were smoking or taking something before you posted there but i think you need to take a raincheck on that post. To slam me for airing an opinion on a subject 'polish people and racism' when i'm talking about 'polish people and racism' is a little out of order. If you've got an argument you can at least put forward some sort of argument rather than call me a hypocrite and lambasting me for not experiencing something.

Thnx

T

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]

you can bend stats to suit your liking, governments do it all the time :) so that counts for jack :)

Life / Alcohol problems of Polish people [141]

or maybe its just that a lot of the drinking goes un reported :) or maybe the figures for Poland was just for the under 18's instead of over :) ok i'm just pulling your leg now :):):)

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

I think its fair to say that where ever there is a homeogenous population, the minute another culture, race or religion is imposed on that nation that there will be a certain level of rejection or anti whatever that race, religion or culture is. I'm not saying its an excuse but i think you can see what i mean.

When ever something changes there will always be a reaction as change is not a natural human process, whether your talking about a whole nation and change or a simple business changing its culture, People do not deal with it well. There are many factors that people are scared about when it comes to change, i'm not going to go into them as it would take a very long time to explain and would bore everybody. Racism is just one of the reactions, to a change, which in this case could be a previous homeogenous nation becoming multi-cultural.

Thnx

T

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


i accept what you say however, isn't part of the 'ignorance' do to the fact that the 'homogenous population has not been exposed to the different races, religions and cultures, so of course it is down to ignorance :) The two walk hand in hand, if you've lived with white, blonde haired and blue eyed males for all of your life, what are you going to know about a woman who is black with brown eyes and brown hair :). If you've never seen this woman or anything like her in your life before you are automatically going to be interested or defensive, maybe both at the same time.


you can call poland a homogenous country, yes, as of the last census 96% claimed they were polish nationals, now if thats not homogenous i don't know what is :)


somebody who is realistic, finally :)


thats part of my point

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]


whether Poles consider it a problem or not, it exists, thats like saying there was a holocaust, but because the Germans didn't find it a problem it didn't exist, hhhhmmm i don't think so :)


exactly its like having the Welsh, Irish or Scottish in England there isn't really that much difference.


yes i see your point here


i also see your point here, your correct ignorance is linked closely with stupidity however ignorance is not always down to stupidity, if you haven't seen a wasp you would ask 'what is that mum??' she would say 'ow its a wasp' you would remember that and store it for future reference, in that instance you are ignorant to the fact its a wasp but does it mean your stupid?? no its just part of your learning process when you grow up.

While on the whole i agree with the points you have made i cannot put it fully down to supidity, there are a number of clever racists in the world, there not all stupid and dumb, what accounts for their ignorance??

Life / Polish people and racism. [943]

yes on purpose to hammer home the point :)

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uuuhhhh since when have i said there is not a problem in the UK?????? please tell me mate because i can't remember saying it, you see this is the thing, instead of addressing or even admiting your country has a problem you like to poke a stick into our problem :)

no we ae not the only nations with a racism issue, there is racism all around the world