UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]


So you say - and I remember responding that from the description you gave of your visits to relatives, they must be a rough lot. Where exactly have you been in Ireland - and don't say 'Dublin'. What part of Dublin? Details of these trips and how you've come away with these impressions. The average pub in Dublin is not especially rowdy or full of drunks. It's usually noisy because being able to have a chat is a very important part of pub culture and it's usually very crowded but not the kind of mayhem that you seem to imagine. This is fairly typical:




I said nobody is drunk at the parade. I didn't say that people don't drink or go to the pub. Some do. Mostly the younger ones. Most Irish people stay home on Paddy's Day and just relax.

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]


Nobody at the parade is drunk. It starts at about 11 in the morning and is over by around 2 in the afternoon. It's attended mostly by families with kids, people who live in or near the city centre and foreigners.

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]

Wizard of Oz, everything was green. I still have a book from my childhood that included an extract from the Wizard of Oz and all the illustrations were green. I thought the whole thing sounded lovely even though green wasn't a particularly favourite colour of mine. Like most five year old girls I favoured pink.

The yellow brick road is in the Wizard of Oz though.

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]


Corned beef Irish style is a very simple dish, cooked in a very simple way. You won't find any elaborate recipes. The recipe I linked you to is by Darina Allen is about as authentic as any you'll find. She collected many old family recipes from elderly people when she was writing her cookbook on traditional Irish food.


Sorry Joker, I'd rather not! As a spectacle in is own right I'm sure it's fine, if you're into that kind of thing, but as an Irish person I find things like dyeing rivers and drinks green weird and cringeworthy.

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]

I linked you to a recipe already Johnny. Hope y'all have good eatin' !! Smacznego!

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]

I'm sure it would be bardzo smaczne :))

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]

Well, it's an unusual idea, but it could work. If you make a sauce from them, the sweetness with the saltiness of the corned beef might be good.

You don't have to give up meat for Lent. In Ireland booze and fags is the usual - or chocolate. I once gave up chocolate for Lent. It was torture. I was so looking forward to Easter Sunday and I had my lovely Cadburys Buttons egg all ready. Then the big day arrived and I found that I wasn't in the mood for chocolate!! I forced myself to eat some of it anyway :)) and I was soon cured. Back to a bar a day :)

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]

Why? It's not Good Friday. Or do you mean because it's Lent now?


It's nice in pasztet and you can make sauce from it - what does this have to do with Johnny's corned beef brisket?

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]

Ah, mother of God, Ironsides! Firstly, he isn't a Catholic and secondly even if he were, it would be up to the Bishop of the Diocese where he lives as to whether he can eat meat or not. When I was a kid in Ireland, we could eat meat on Fridays, lots of people kept the fish on a Friday tradition though because the fish and chips from the 'chipper' was so delicious and it gave the lady of the house a break from cooking.

UK, Ireland / Corned beef & Cabbage are typically Irish? [98]


Here I am.


I wouldn't advise it. That's a recipe for regular beef brisket, the seasonings wouldn't work very well with corned beef.

Jon has given you the right advice. It has to be simmered in a pot of water. Here's how it's done in Ireland:

irishexaminer.com/food/arid-10060942.html

Travel / What are the best countries to live in? [152]

Ireland without a doubt :)

Tuesday night, Stag's Head Pub, Dublin, there's just nowhere like Ireland:

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [262]


Well actually, I didn't. I was merely responding to one of Pollyanna's all-too-frequent misconceptions.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [262]


"Where there is love there is no labour and where there is labour, the labour is loved."


You mean: 'You knew perfectly well whom you were marrying' :)) oh venerableTeacher of English.

Now, now, just because I'm a happy, well-balanced person and the rest of you are a bunch of malcontents, you're spewing out the sour grapes.


"Turning sliver out of dark grasses
Where the skylark had lain,
And her voice coming softly over the meadow
Was the mist becoming rain."

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [262]


Actually I quite like Warsaw. I'm just sharing my observations about how people in Poland differ from Ireland. But I've got used to you now :)

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [262]


Now! There it is! A perfect example of the nasty, mean-spirited attitude that prevails amongst so many Polish people - even though you're only a plastic Pole, or perhaps even because of that very fact.


And again - what a pitiful excuse of a society, if that is the prevailing attitude.

Thanks for proving my point Pollyanna :)

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [262]


I know the truth hurts Paw :)

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [262]


Yes, I know but I lived in London and I didn't see quite such callousness and disconnectedness there as in Warsaw - and of course I found myself comparing Warsaw to Dublin and you can't really compare two such different places. I was just fairly shocked that in a so-called Catholic country like Poland, nobody seemed to give a toss about anyone, whereas in Ireland, as Catholics, we were actively brought up to help others at every opportunity. That didn't seem to be part of the culture here in Poland at all.

You're right that it's improving. It's just that it feels a bit 'forced' and self-conscious.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [262]


That's not what I'm referring to at all. Polish people are lacking in compassion for their own. I was really shocked when I first lived in Warsaw and saw the lack of social capital. Jon will know what I'm talking about. I was on the tram one day and saw an elderly man on the street, clearly very unwell, looked as if he was about to collapse, and nobody gave him a second glance. Utterly callous, heartless and unfeeling. I've helped many an elderly person whom I've seen struggling with walking sticks and heavy shopping. I said to one old lady that I was sorry I didn't speak good Polish and she replied 'You may not have good Polish but you have a good heart'.


I'm not remotely woke. As I've told you before 'wokes' don't do fabulous impersonations of Nigerians - or Indians. Here's the script for the Nigerian guy.

"Ah am wantin' to deevoss ma wife in LaGOS and marree ma Polish girlFRIEND." The emphasis on those syllables is very important to get the accent right.

I also have no patience with those who can't decide if they're Martha or Arthur. Basically I'm old-school. LG and B, plus the good old straight-forward trannies who go down the pub for a few drinks wearing their wife's skirt, I can deal with that. (except when they have facial hair, that's too weird, a beard and a skirt). But all that non-binary malarkey is a step too far.

Unfortunately you are too bereft of imagination to grasp the complexity that is Atch :))

Anyway I have Gołąbki to make so I must say farewell for now.


So many of the Protestant Anglo-Irish were an absolute asset to our country, true Irishmen and true patriots. Great men and women and such an important part of our history.


According to Ruth Dudley Edwards. She's what's known in Ireland as a West-Brit. She was quite a respected writer in her day. I read her biography of Patrick Pearse when I was sixteen. Enjoyed it. I was researching an essay. Won a prize from the Old Dublin Society for it! She seems to have gone a bit bats now. She's nearly eighty so she's just a bit of an elderly eccentric at this stage.

@Alien, no, you're wrong there.

UK, Ireland / Is it good for Poland as Sinn Fein will win today in Northen Ireland [262]


How many Polish girls have been raped by Polish citizens? Stats please.


I'm speaking only from the experience of the families I encountered over twenty years or so. I might say the same thing about the Polish families I've met - although to be honest they've been more of a mixed bag. They're not that big on altruism for one thing. That was one of the first things I noticed about Polish people.

Law / Rejecting Inheritance [44]

Novi, don't be such an idiot. Under Polish law you inherit the deceased's debts as well as their assets. People pursue debts. The Polish courts even pursue minors for the debts of grandparents! Take a look at this, from one of your favourite news sources. I remember the case, it was so shocking to me.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550999/Impoverished-Polish-child-forced-dead-grandfathers-debt.html

Law / Rejecting Inheritance [44]

Steve. you posted here a couple of weeks ago and I actually answered your post with the information you needed. Here is a link to my reply.

https://polishforums.com/law/poland-father-life-support-usa-heir-88219/

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [574]


Me too! I like the 1960s ones.


Absolutely. The whole point of such a car is the pleasure of driving it.

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [574]


Yes. Even Rolls Royce is tainted with vulgarity. A Bentley is the only way to go.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1510]


My mother was a professional singer before her marriage - and a fluent Irish speaker to boot. I was enormously fortunate and privileged to have known her. When she did a recital with Leon Goosens (look him up) he signed her program with the message 'keep going as you are now and you won't go wrong'. I'd say that rather than stunting my musical development, she fostered it and I'm sure Mr Goosens would agree so your opinion matters to me not one whit, thou very paltry knave :)

Here's one of the reviews from that concert:

"Sharing the platform with Mr Goosens was the young mezzo-soprano whose singing has advanced in ease and artistry even since last year. Her singing of early songs by Purcell was clear and lovely. She sang Verborgenheit by Hugo Wolf with dramatic intensity. A selection of Moore's melodies was followed by two delightful songs by Grieg and she concluded with the Rann of Wandering by Sir Arnold Bax."

For your information The Rann of Wandering is a musical setting of verses by the Irish poet Padraic Colum.


You know sod-all about true Irish culture.


I don't mind Aerosmith but I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to them. I have very wide musical tastes though.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1510]


Very reserved and softly spoken too. She's a fairly typical Donegal woman of her generation. I've known a good few of them and you really have to watch your ps and qs around them - no swearing like a docker :)

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1510]


Would you believe that one of the first songs I learned was I Dreamt That I Dwelt in Marble Halls. My mother, same as Enya's mother, used to sing it and I picked it up from hearing her. Then of course once I started trying to sing it myself - I was about four or five at the time - my mother would step in and tell me if I was doing the phrasing wrongly or singing a false note.

The next song I remember learning from her was The Little Road To Bethlehem by Michael Head.

This was my favourite verse. I loved the high notes on 'your star of gold'. When you hit that high note, it feels like flying!

"Across the air the silver sheep-bell rang,
"The lambs are coming home," sweet Mary sang,
"Your star of gold, your star of gold is shining in the sky,
So sleep, my little King, go lullaby."

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1510]


I'd agree with that - I think it's more about satisfying the public's lust for vengeance. The death penalty, especially in the form it exists in America, has no place in a civilised society but then as I always say, the USA is not civilised.

News / Pawel Adamowicz, Gdansk mayor, dies after stabbing [354]


I know how fond you are of grammatical constructs, but that would be conjecture :)


And yet it's thanks to him that you now find yourself in the position of having to deal with the fallout from the 'no homework' policy for which the education system is ill-prepared. It was he who mooted it in the first place. When you make foolish promises to get votes you then have to deliver on them.I'm afraid it's another example of populist policies that lead at best nowhere and at worst to disaster. As I've often said, they're all as bad as each other in different ways.

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1510]


Oh, Novi, Novi, Novi - what will we do with you! I was responding to that post. I even quoted it from it!

Off-Topic / USA News and Poland - part 8 [1510]


I'm surprised you didn't focus on yesterday's execution by nitrogen gas or whatever it was. He was basically suffocated and it wasn't quick. Apparently it's because they can't get the drugs for the lethal injections. Couldn't they use hanging or death by firing squad? Albert Pierrepoint the British hangman could get the condemned person out of the cell and dispatched in under ten seconds.