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Vox   
29 Jun 2015
Life / Whats with going to sauna naked in Poland? [41]

I don't know what you are talking about, I'm saying you are clueless. Women rarely feel comfortable about their bodies. Do you think that being naked in public is somehow a sign of self confidence and comfort? Stripers must be a pick of the crop then.
Vox   
29 Jun 2015
Life / Whats with going to sauna naked in Poland? [41]

@flagless pole
Barbarians - unrefined unreasonable people driven by passions and impulses, unable to control their appetites and desires. Definitely not repressed kind, somehow they failed to build civilization; destroyed few.
Vox   
20 May 2015
Life / Why are Polish so conservative and religious? [240]

Poland is conservative and religious because it is the right thing to be to stay strong. "Exactly!!!

Poland recognize religious values as an important part of the Polish cultural heritage. Poland might seem conservative to those who compare it with radical anti-religious culture of the western Europe.

However, current government in Poland seems to fall in line with the rest of Europe in passing bills to support anti-religious propaganda and privileges for homosexuals.

The number of churchgoers in Poland has nothing to do with the issue debated. Some people have those silly notions that they can provide all the answers by quoting statistic.
Vox   
8 May 2015
Life / Why are Polish so conservative and religious? [240]

History of a country is shaping its attitudes and culture. People are often making erroneous observations basing them on their own cultural background. You are in a different country even if it looks a lot like your country of origin, it doesn't mean that you really understand it.
Vox   
5 May 2015
News / Footie hooligan punch-up thwarted in Poland [47]

Polish cops have plenty of pepper spray and the use of water cannons, as well as truncheons. And a young man is dead because of the wrong actions of the Police.

Ditto

The actions of the Police caused these riots

It seems to be a reasonable assumption.
Vox   
3 May 2015
Work / Does Poland welcome overseas workers as much as the UK does? [34]

it is mainly for me to put my thoughts down and clarify them.

You need to work on it. Not that it wasn't cleverly done. However to understand more about the way the world is working you need to devote some more time to study that problem.

this is a party called UKIP

Is the party that is being run by a guy who said that traffic jams on the M5 are there due to the influx of immigrants? I understand now that politicians all over the world are by and by a sad bunch but to exchange an inept dullard for a an inept cretin will not solve any problems.
Vox   
30 Apr 2015
News / US slaps Poland in the face (Comey Poland) [92]

Are you for real Lyzko?

That not all Poles were evil, anti-semitic thugs etc..?I know that. So do all enlightened people.

Lzyko, not all American Jews are evil, anti-polish thugs either. I know that my friend, so do all enlighten people.

This is not a thread about Jews, please keep to the topic
Vox   
29 Apr 2015
Life / Are foreigners welcome in Poland? [267]

accent when I open the mouth show big ignorance

It could be more about your attitude than about your accent.

all say they don't feel

Ah they "feel" and that gives you right to rant. If you don't like it ......!
Vox   
27 Apr 2015
History / Was the holocaust by Germans in Poland the worse genocide in history? [210]

Shoe's on the other foot, sonny boy!! Your ignorance is frightening; your prejudice even more so:-)

Lyzko if you are talking to me I would advice you to look in the mirror.

I've provided numerous sources proving he was a Polish citizen.

Harry, really, what if he was Polish? So what? What would be the significance of that to you?
Vox   
27 Apr 2015
News / US slaps Poland in the face (Comey Poland) [92]

All these things have occurred.

Did they? How do you know? Not from the above sources surely.

There are plenty more survivors' stories very well documented.

Are you referring to "stories" taken on face value and never properly verified?

About your sources:
1. The destiny foundation. Not a research or a historical project but more of a nationalistic propaganda, in their own words:

Our films and multi-media programming are designed to educate, inspire, inform, and instill asense of pride and purpose in being Jewish. To demonstrate how each and every Jew fits into the big picture of Jewish history.

The Talmud teaches us that anti-Semitism is a shortcut to fame but eventually it is a long road to Hell and destruction.

Yes, jon a great source of a mystical piece of Judaist thinking. What it has to do with history, objectivity and scientific research? Nothing.
Its reliability is very low.
2.

Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz, an Essay in Historical Interpretation

I disregarded that work for a sole reason that the author of aforementioned review wrote that Jan T. Gross is an outstanding historian. Most of the serious academicians do not regard Gross as a historian or at least do not regard his book about Poland as a historical book.

I'm not going to waste my time on somebody who is either an inept amateur or a biased and dishonest person.
3.
Finally, Sandra S Williams ( she is not a renown historian either but only as student in Student/Judaic Studies Program) The impact of the Holocaust on Survivors and their Children.

Her objectivity, integrity and a knowledge can be attested to by her own words:

These Jews had neither family nor friends waiting for them in their original homelands and communities, only unfriendly neighbors who feared that the Jews would ask to have their property returned to them

Poland, where they no longer found a viable Jewish community, and moreover, the Jews who had survived were still the objects of hate and murder by Polish nationalists.

Her knowledge of the contexts and reality in Poland at the time is astounding. No, more can be expected. In her bibliography she listed a book I have randomly checked - Polish Jews: The Final chapter by Earl Vinecour. The text is mediocre at best, it harps on some anti-Polish stereotypes.

In all your sources are focusing solely on the fate of the Jews without understanding of the wider contexts and circumstances. All of them seems to be unaware of the fact that about three millions gentile Poles were also murdered by the Germans, a number at least equal to that of the Polish Jews who lost their lives.
Vox   
27 Apr 2015
News / US slaps Poland in the face (Comey Poland) [92]

The truth is that local authorities were often left intact in occupied Poland, and many officials exploited their power in ways that proved fatal to their Jewish constituents.

Could we a simple folk ask for sources and examples of aforementioned events, Mr Expert? We would like to learn about facts.
Vox   
27 Apr 2015
Love / Are Polish men cold? What do they like? [33]

Oh please !!

Oh please? After almost three years of the ongoing relationship you are asking whether his aloofness in bed has anything to do with his nationality? Are you serious? I think not!
Vox   
26 Apr 2015
History / Was the holocaust by Germans in Poland the worse genocide in history? [210]

Jedwabne was separate from Kielce! I and everyone here knows that

Everyone except for you:

use basic examples as instances of the Polish mentality vis-a-vis Jews living in their midst, and in their country, AFTER WORLD WAR II! Was it necessary to round up stray Jews, herd them together into an abandoned barn and burn them?!

Few days later you are backpedaling to hide your ignorance, too late.
Vox   
25 Apr 2015
History / Was the holocaust by Germans in Poland the worse genocide in history? [210]

Look up/google search Jedwabne and Kielce, buddy! If you know how to read, you'll understand perfectly:-) Once again, you're entitled to your own opinions, but NOT to your own factsLOL

Lyzko, would you be so kind and remind me when and where AFTER WORLD WAR II Jews were herded into a barn and burned? If you are not able to do it just admit it.

And so are you! Just because you żydki keep repeating your lies it don't make them facts.

Is that you Lzyko? lol!
Vox   
25 Apr 2015
News / US slaps Poland in the face (Comey Poland) [92]

I might ask you the same question there, Vox! Your ripostes are far more infantile; they defy both simple logic as well as historical fact:-)You might want to consider to stop trolling!!

My dear fellow, old chap, why loosing composure and your nerve? It says more about you than me if you are trying to insult or belittle me instead of debating. I know you don't know much about facts or history and are able only to repeat few standard myths. However to stoop so low and resort to insults to hide your inadequacy badly reflect on your integrity. Personally I don't like to debate with clowns so I do implore you to keep the ugly side of your character out of this forum. By doing so you will perhaps restore some resemblance of decorum.

My question still stands. Who decided that Poles could do more to help the Jews? Some armchair warriors siting comfortably in the front of a fireplace 80 years after the fact? I'm sorry to burst your bubble but it has nothing to do with facts but everything to do with chutzpa!

I agree. Sadly, this still isn't the case. While visiting Auschwitz-Birkenau only a few months ago, a relative of mine who speaks a little Polish merely asked a groundskeeper on the site of the concentration camp where the information office was, only to be met with "Why do you people always have to keep reminding us?!",

Would that be the same relative who fed you to the brim with grandma's stories? It doesn't even make sense.
Vox   
25 Apr 2015
History / Was the holocaust by Germans in Poland the worse genocide in history? [210]

Vox, you seem not to understand sufficiently the history on which you pretend to expound!

Lyzko, please understand a single uppermost important fact, all what you have been presenting here cannot be really called a history. It is a "bastardised" version of the history. A product of decades of unopposed mythography, lies and granny stories being told and retold all over again and taken on face value without conducting any scientific research of the subject and hence without any real evidence to back it all up - colossus with legs of clay.

Vox, ol' fella, if post-War pogroms don't belong in a thread about the Holocaust, where then, pray tell??

Lyzko, dear friend, post-war pogroms belong in a thread about post-war pogroms of course.

use basic examples as instances of the Polish mentality vis-a-vis Jews living in their midst, and in their country, AFTER WORLD WAR II! Was it necessary to round up stray Jews, herd them together into an abandoned barn and burn them?!Don't see how ya can riggle outta that one:-)

Lyzko, would you be so kind and remind me when and where AFTER WORLD WAR II Jews were herded into a barn and burned?
Vox   
22 Apr 2015
History / Was the holocaust by Germans in Poland the worse genocide in history? [210]

Thanks for that article, you clearly think that there's a lot to it if you suggest we read it.

Actually I didn't, must have been a mod.

I disagree with his assessment of what Comey actually said.

I know and you disagree because you are crooked not for any other reason. I have quoted his words to show you that even people who are not very sympathetic towards Poland noticed Comey blunder.

I care as much about what Polonia think as more than a few members of Polonia care about accuracy in history.

You don't care about accuracy in history. You care about your own interpretation of history.

Vox, you make it seem as if the Jews volunteered out of willingness

Those Jews who volunteered to the Ghetto Police volunteered out of willingness to cut the best deal for themselves. Nobody forced them and there were no punishment for not joining.

Poland too must come clean and admit her sometimes complicit involvement in the Shoah.

You seem to be working under a false premise that a common ethnic background equals collective responsibility. The way of thought resembles the lines along the Nazis had been thinking. In fact society as a whole cannot be held collectively responsible for crimes some individuals committed even if they are a part of that society.

In Poland there were no organized political, social, paramilitary or military force that planed or carried out extermination of the Jews. There wasn't a Polish organization big or small that assisted Nazi Germany in carrying out their plans against Jews.

There were individuals, who would sell out Jews in hiding to Germans or criminals who preyed on Jews.
It seems that at the time only Poles cared about their Jews. A Polish underground organization send time after time missives to the allied governments about fate of the Jews. They were hardly believed and none cared enough to do something about it. Even American Jews closed their ears to plea for an intervention on the behalf of the Polish Jews.

that the post-War pogroms

Post-war pogroms do not belong in the thread about Holocaust.
Vox   
22 Apr 2015
History / Was the holocaust by Germans in Poland the worse genocide in history? [210]

Comey's actual comment made no reference to the country of Poland, only to some people from Poland.

Harry, Laurence Weinbaum director of the Israel Council on Foreign Relations disagrees with you:

Comey's reference to "the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland," in a speech that was given at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum and adapted for an op-ed in The Post last week, suggested that in terms of responsibility for the Holocaust, Poles are somehow to be compared with the Germans (never mind the Austrians, whom Comey failed to even mention). Poland was the first nation in Europe to resist the German onslaught - and it did so, ferociously, both at home and in exile, from the first day of the war in 1939 when it was invaded until the last.

washingtonpost/opinions/confronting-chilling-truths-about-polands-wartime-history/2015/04/21/f0588dce-e782-11e4-aae1-d642717d8afa_story.html

Polonia is laughing at you Harry, you are nothing but a presumptuous sad clown.
Vox   
21 Apr 2015
History / When will you Poles give back German land and the cities which you robbed? [557]

Perhaps you know something that archaeologists don't

I know something you don't know.Aerology cannot answer as to what was their ethnicity or what language those people spoke.

In any case, past inhabitants are irrelevant to current ownership

Particularly if those past inhabitants are only guessed past inhabitants.