Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

You see, Vlad! Point proven:-)

Apologies for the faulty orthography. Unlike you, I don't always have a google translate at the ready twenty-four-sevenLOL

A common pattern difference between Polish and Russian, is precisely this "added" vowel such as "m[o]r." vs. "mr....", g[o]lodny" vs. "głodny" etc...

...Polish "sklep" (standard word for "shop"/"store") vs. Russian "sklep" (a sort of dirty cellar or room, scarcely a boutique and similar establishment :-))

The list is indeed a long one!
lol

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

I'm merely speaking in general, Vlad! The "list" to which I was referring is in the abstract:-) Odd that you didn't pick up on it. Other than that, your English is rather good.

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

A Sorb?? Scarcely! Nor a Serb, nor any Slav, in fact. I'm a bilingual US-born and raised German bilingual:-)

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Vlad, "łyżka" simply means "spoon", "łyżkO" would be the (non-existent) Vocative Case:-)
LOL

I mean, I guess "łyżko" would be conceivable in Polish, merely unusual, to downright odd! Imagine for example in English calling out "O' spoon!!" People would think that rather weird, I'd expect:-)

Then again, Polish also has the possible (yet unused) neuter forms of the first person in the past tense "Ja byłom..." . presumably if a child were speaking. A shame noone's ever been able to test out that theoryLOL

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

"nedela" = Russian "week" > "ne" + "dela" = not work vs. "niedziela" = Polish "Sunday"
....ad infinitum!

Ooops! "not" "do". Typo, sorry:-)

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

.....Sunday - Vozkresenyie!

And that's similar to Polish????!!

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Admittedly, an exception to the list:-)

History / Good enough for British - Joseph Conrad? Poland-born novelist. [30]

While his written English might well have been indistinguishable from a native Brit, his spoken English was said to have retained a decidedly thick Polish accent:-)

LOL

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

A more precient theory has been that in fact the Russians themselves are descendants of Rurik the Slav, curiously enough, the same progenitor of the present-day Swedes:-)

History / POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country? [1080]

I generally speak of "Middle Europe" when referring to countries such Austria, Czechoslovakia aka Czech Republik, Hungary or Switzerland. Central Europe also includes Slovenia, Albania and Macedonia. Poland? Well, it has the strong historical influences from the Catholic West, namely, Rome (located in South Central Italy), therefore, I tend to classify Poland as Central European, yet she is physically located much further East, while having a much more Continental influence than, say, Romania or Bulgaria, which are closer to countries such as Greece and/or the bridge nation, Turkey!

When Americans especially close their eyes and conjure up a Middle European person/accent etc.., the latter generally sounds like a courtly, Viennese Austrian, decidely Germanic, although not "German" per se, fully of bowing and hand kissing.

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Vlad, as a professional linguist, I can linguistically vouch for both the syntactic as well as semantic closeness of Polish with Czech, not that there are not false friend traps galore, e.g. "Obchód na korze", the title of a popular 1966 Czech film! In English, it is translated as "The Shop on Main Street". In Polish, the meaning is, well, rather differentLOL There's of course Polish "szukać" vs. Czech "szukat", Polish "stały" vs. "Czech "staly", Polish "pożar" vs. Czech "pozar" etc... The months are also quite different, yet more Ur-Slavic vs. the latinized Russian equivalents!

On the other hand, certain basic words such as Polish "tydzień" cf. "tyden" in Czech, "Dzień dobry" and "Dobry den" point to a closer day-to-day proximity, not to mention the buzzing sounds of Polish and Czech, compared to the much more exaggerated palatalization of Russian and Ukrainian.

R.U.R. while it is true that the average English speaker faced with a German or Dutch text, having never studied either of those languages, will be as doubtless bewildered as were I too glance casually at "Beowulf" or "Caedmon's Hymn" having never studied Old English, many American -born German students of mine over the years have found German (though NOT Icelandic!!!) much easier to get a superficial handle on than even Spanish or Italian.

Slavic languages words similarities with Polish, is what this thread is about.

History / Good enough for British - Joseph Conrad? Poland-born novelist. [30]

Reading "Lord Jim" and "Heart of Darkness" in highschool, never once did I even suspect that his first or only language was anything other than English!!!

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Vlad' ol' man, NO OTHER Slavic language sounds like Polish!! The others all lost the nasals, plus Slovene and Czech both retained their long vs,.short vowels:-)

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Not only the Russians, Polonius:-) The Croats, Serbs and other Southern Slavs constantly tease the Polish for their hissing sibilant combosLOL

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

If I were to translate that word for word into Polish, I'd get "łaska niebieska" or "the/a blue walking stick"!

:-)

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Vlad, only watch out for "łaska" vs. "laska"!! The former means "walking stick". A single slip of a key stroke can either create a different word, and/or type a different word with a wholly different meaning:-)) Cf. "łaski" (walking sticks) and "łąski" (narrow)...

Typo! I "meant" "laska" in Polish.

UK, Ireland / Romanian manual labour workers in the UK making Poles look bad. [12]

Romanian manual workers making POLES look bad????!

Sure it isn't the other way 'round?

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Wonder still if the word for ash is related to "jeśień", the word for "autumn"/"fall".

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

You're right, Vlad! However, English also knows the more latinate "autumn" (cf. Italian "autuno"), but "fall" surely refers to the falling of leaves (as does the Polish). Interestingly certain Germanic tongues emphasize the cognate 'calque' for "harvest", e.g. German "der Herbst", Dutch "de herfst", Swedish "hoest" etc...

Check out the Czech names for the months.

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Indeed it is. "Wiele"> "viel(e)". Right on the money!

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Vlad, could "kotyczka" be Russian as well, or only Polish?

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Most enlightening, Vlad! Many thanks:-)

I have noticed a similarity between Polish and Russian diminutives, however. Seems the Poles though also go slightly overboard on the subject of intimacy, e.g. Małgorzata < Małgosia < Gosia/Gosiu! < Gocha/Gochu! etc..

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

...Anna, Annuszka, Annusia.... plus Polish has that Vocative case, no longer extant in modern Russian, I'm told:-)

Suckered into the same trap again, I fearLOL

"Anna" "Anno", Anniuszka!" "Anniusia"....

It's late and I'm getting sloppy (but still no excuse!)

I recently learned that Russian "karadash" is derived from Turkish. Polish "Ołówek" is probably pure Slavic?
lol

Language / Polish or any Slavic language key to any other Slavic languages? [126]

Yaizindiya,

That's because Polish borrowed all the consonants from Russian, but never bothered to return themLOL

Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]

Of the two languages, Russian on the one hand, has borrowed comparatively less from, say, Latin, in contrast with Polish(..which is in no wise to initimate that Russians hasn't also borrowed plenty!), preferring to use more of her own native "Slavic" roots, cf. Polish "literatura" vs. Russian "slovonictvo", or some such construction:-)

Russian aspects are almost identical with Polish, as near as I can tell.

History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]

"Lost" territories, TheOther?? Hmmm, seems to me that's historically debatable. To be sure, former Germans lands stretched far beyond the more limited region parceled out to them than is the case today. However, many of those were the results of Crusades and conquests by among others, the Livonian Knights during the Middle Ages, so who then is to say that they are actually German, and not originally Polish territories??

:-)

Language / Polish or any Slavic language key to any other Slavic languages? [126]

In defense of Polish, it has a tenderness, almost more upbeat sounding, whereby Russian sort of oozes along like a viscous river, flowing to it's ineluctible, glottal conclusion!

History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]

...unfortunately, there's no gander in sight....merely as of yet unrepaid reparations:-)

History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]

Fine. So long as it is understood, if not accepted, that so-called "German lands" in the "former East", may not ever have been "German" at all, but instead, booty of the Teutonic Knights:-)

History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]

Hey, folks! I agree that the base thread is ultra-silly! Yet while we're on the subject of giving, resp. getting "back" lost land, let's at least be accurate about which land allegedly belonged to whom. As such can probably never be proven by some sort of Platonic "Ur-deed" way back when, it'll just plain never get resolved, and we'll all have to deal with it as is, PERIOD!

Think of the old Arab-Israeli Conflict as an analogy. There never was a founding document in Biblical times, only a distant inkling on either side that's festered into a mega- bad case of "G-d said, they said"!!!