Posts by Vlad1234

Vlad1234

25 Mar 2013

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

Vlad123, do you reside inside or outside of MKAD? Your anti-ukrainian attitude is abhorrent. You are a just a Moskal, and please admit it.

I provided comparison of Polish with Russian only because many Poles believe that Ukrainians are nomadic tribes and just borrowed some
Polish words in their Tatar language.Since Russian obviously was less influenced by Polish, comparison between cognates is more revealing than between borrowed words.Ukrainian would be more correct to compare with Czech rather than with Polish.To reduce number of directly borrowed words.But I hope you will understand that not all similarities between Ukrainian and Polish are borrowed.Even so Ukrainian developed its own way of spelling and pronounciation,it could hardly be that Russian is originally closer to Polish than Ukrainan.

I created a new file with comparison between Western and Eastern Slavic languages.There is comparison between Czech and Ukrainian words at the end.Letter "kh" in transcription stands for "ch" in "chutor" or "kh" in Kazakhstan. (') stands for a soft conosont.

Vlad1234

25 Mar 2013

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

Earth - Zemja - Zemlja

Probably it should look more like Zemia - Zeml'a?
But anyway you may not look on how Polish words are writing,look only at Russian part.

Vlad1234

25 Mar 2013

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

but though he's not a Polish native speaker, he can't even begin to imagine how Ukrainina must appear to a Pole:-)
Vlad may be Romanian, actually, judging by his given name!

If I would be a Romanian, why would I care about Ukraine?Do you think I would?And how Ukraine appear to a Pole?
2)Did Poles and Eastern Slavs had common "gods" from the beginning?For example in Poland there was some "Peroin", while in Kievan Rus

before it accepted Cristianity was "Perun".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun

Vlad1234

25 Mar 2013

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

What then IS your native tongue, Vlad? Come on and stop being so cagey, will you?

I already revealed it in this forum.This is Russian and Ukrainian.

Russian and Ukrainian also numerous 'false friends', or deceptive cognates, much like Polish and Russian etc...

False friends are not as numerous between Russian and Ukrainian.And hardly more between Polish and Russian.
The examples I could remember are "chas" which stands for "time" in both Polish and Ukrainian and "hour" in Russian.And

"tak" which stands for "yes" in Polish and Ukrainian and "so" in Russian.

Another example is zdan'e (zdanie) which stands for "sentence" in Polish and "building" in Russ.But thay do not sound exactly the same.In Polish it sound rather like "zdan'e",without long "i" vocal.

Vlad1234

26 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

I guess they didn't want to pick borat sounding Russian accent, even in those areas of Russian empire...

Here is a guy who speaks with Polish accent.Does he sound Austrian or German?
youtube.com/watch?v=Qpgp4DgnIug

Vlad1234

26 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

So,his accent is not Polish?..

Vlad1234

26 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

English actors are trying to mimic Polish accent.
youtube.com/watch?v=_qEAlqP-lYM

Vlad1234

26 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

Tom solilokwium 4 months ago "To jest ruski akcent. Żadna Polka tak nie mówi. Nawet ruska intonacja."

But the actors are saying in the clip couple of words in Polish.If they managed to know Polish words why
they have no clue about true Polish accent?And why would they represent Polish accent as Russian or Ukrainian?
If everyone knows Polish speak with German or Austrian accent?

Vlad1234

26 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

Never heard that remarkable accent would be an asset.But mine is probably not that bad.

Vlad1234

26 Mar 2013

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

Some of those falce friends they listed are not completelly corect.For example "doctor" is used in Russian in meaning of doctor of science too,not only in Polish."Pokoj" could be used in Russian in meaning of room or house interior too,not only in Polish, etc.

Vlad1234

26 Mar 2013

Language / Polish/Ukrainian words similarities [209]

I do not see a lot of sense to count all the "falce friends".I has no point to me.

Vlad1234

26 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

Russian accent is very strong and therefore easy to imitate, unlike Polish.

So,Polish lang. is closer to English in pronounciation (in comparison to Russian) and therefore not as strong?
It would be interesting to know.Could you give some details on Polish-Russian accent differences?What exactly
sounds Poles and Russians pronounce differently when they speak English so it makes Polish accent less pronounced?

Vlad1234

27 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

They did not say anything in polish, they made up some words to make it look like they say something in Polish

At least they said clearly "duzhe capuchino" (strong capuchino) and "nich" (nothing)...

Vlad1234

27 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

Polish in the other hand has English "L" sound, and it's even sharper.

As I know Polish doesn't have upturn consonants when you have to put your tong as higher
as possible.Neither Polish "L", I think. I do not see what Russian "L" has to do with English "W".

Rather "W" is something average between Russian "V" and "U".And it's not very difficult for
Russian to mimic something close to English "W".

Polish puts stress on the second syllable from the last one on every single word which makes the language to sound not melodic unlike Russian that has moving stress

It has nothing to do with accent of both languages when they speak in English.

Russian has no English "w" sound (Polish has, it's "ł")

Could you give me examples of Polish words with letter "ł" sounding like English "W"? I want to check 'em in Google translator.

Vlad1234

27 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

Sorry,another falce friend.In Russian d'uzhij means "strong,tough,tall" especially when you refer to a man.

Vlad1234

31 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

łopata, łeba, ława, łał - compare with English wow.

I'm agree,strangely sound.Not so sure if it's exact counterpart of English W.
Wonder where it came from in Polish...
But I do not disagree that Polish has some strange sounds.For example "ą" or "ę".
Somebody said it is archaic.Probably, pronounciation is larger divider between Slavic languages.
I bet that Polish pronounciation is as distant from Czech as it is from Russian.
Could somebody tell if we could say definitely that Polish is closer to Czech than it is closer to Russian,
and closer to Slovak than it closer to Ukrainian?

Vlad1234

31 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

Now, after so much time spent on this forum I don't know if you are being deliberately obtuse asking such a basic question but I'm going to answer it seriously.Yes, Polish is definitely closer to Czech than it is to Russian and closer to Slovak than it is to Ukrainian.

Sorry for ignorance,but some people on this forum including claimed naitive Polish speakers have different opinions on this regard.For example:

Moreover, Polish and Czech are very different due to historical reasons. Czech language as recreated in 19th century was deliberately made different from Polish so Czech people would not be afraid to lose their identity when neighboring with far larger Polish nation.

polishforums.com/general-language-17/ukrainian-language-similar-polish-30550/4/

Polish and Russian have the same frequencies (if you analyse their spectra without looking at individual words, they are identical: that does not mean much in itself because that happens also with two uncorrelated languages such as Spanish and Greek). I speak Russian and right now I am in Poland and can understand quite a few things (I can even read newspapers!). Czech is also close to Polish, but I think to a lesser degree than Russian.

polishforums.com/general-language-17/the-languages-russian-polish-similar-all-3935/2/

Thanks to my father in law, I now have Czech tv and radio. It sounds more like Russian and Serbo-Croatian than Polish does. It is decidedly weaker than Polish.

polishforums.com/general-language-17/czech-language-sounds-like-baby-talk-most-poles-52168/7/
Maybe these posts a bit confusing but I do not know...
And from what I know Slovak should be much closer to Czech than to Polish and also have some unique traits.And Ukrainian is much closer to Polish than Russian.Especially in vocabulary.So I do not know what to think.

Vlad1234

31 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

So Polish is closer to Czech than to Ukrainian?

Vlad1234

31 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

True, mostly. But if you ever have a chance to listen to Lower Sorbian (dolnołużycki) as spoken by those born 100 years ago (recordings exists) you'd think their language is no. 1 on that list.

You forgot to mention Kashubian,Silezian and Old Prussian.No metter how close they were to Polish but it allows effectively manage Ukrainian and Russian somewhere on 9-10 places.

Vlad1234

31 Mar 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

Nothing. Just a joke.
Pomeranian and Slovincian are also worth to mention.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomeranian_language

Vlad1234

1 Apr 2013

History / Which countries are Polands friends, which are Polands enemies? [75]

she came here from Russia when she was 10. According to her, the Russians don't like Poles and vice versa.

Majority of Russians hardly have any particular mind about Poles because they almost do not encounter them in everyday life.I could suggest that most of negative attitude (if it is present) comes from Poland being member of NATO and active American ally.What is regarded to be anti-Russian by some.But not even all people in Russia are concerned about NATO or some geopolitical aliances.Minds of majority of people are usually quite far from it.

Austria had income per head 4 x times that of Czechoslovakia. Just look at the difference in Living-standards between North nad South korea, socialism doesn't work.

Could you give some reference for this statement?For example Austrians had 4 times biger flats or apartments on average,consumed 4 times more food, had 4 times more clothing?Or how level of life could be compared more exactly?

Just look at the difference in Living-standards between North nad South korea, socialism doesn't work.

System which exist in North Korea is called socialism?Not in all former "communist countres" life conditions were equal.For example take Hungary:

In 1966, the Central Committee approved the "New Economic Mechanism" which eased foreign trade restrictions, gave limited freedom to the workings of the market, and allowed a limited number of small businesses to operate in the services sector.

/wiki/Goulash_Communism

Or former Yugoslavia:

Despite their common origins, the economy of socialist Yugoslavia was much different from the economies of the Soviet Union and other Eastern European communist countries, especially after the Yugoslav-Soviet break-up of 1948. Though ultimately owned by the state, Yugoslav companies were collectively managed by the employees themselves, much like in the Israeli kibbutz and the anarchist industrial cooperatives of Spanish Catalonia.

/wiki/Economy_of_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia

Vlad1234

1 Apr 2013

Language / Slavic accent correction [110]

starting from the closest to the Polish language:

1. Slovakian
2. Czech
3. Ukrainian

Could some linguist confirm that Czech is closer to Polish than Ukrainian to Polish?Either in vocabulary or prononce?
Or you could give some link to such a statement?

I found such a statement in I-net:

Czech is not any closer to Polish than Ukrainian is. On the contrary, Ukrainian has more shared words with shared meanings, whereas words shared between Polish and Czech tend to have different meanings in each language.

wikitravel.org/en/Talk:Polish_phrasebook
(at the end of page)

Vlad1234

6 Apr 2013

History / Which countries are Polands friends, which are Polands enemies? [75]

All that those quotes do was prove that socialism didn't work and the more open market there was the more successful the country was.

Could you give definition to "open market" economy?I will give some examples to explain my question.

1)Microsoft controls 90 person of O/S software in the World.
2)GM,Ford and Chrysler contol about 90% of domestic car production in U.S.
3)Boeing and Airbus control about 90% of large aircraft production in the World.
4)Intel and AMD control about 95% of computer processors production in the World.
5)80% of PC production in the World controled by just few companies.
6)100% of leagally produced Viagra is controled by Pfizer.

I think the contrast between West Germany and East Germany was even greater

Strange,but some surveys show that more than 40 % of former Eastern Germans want back to Eastern Germany.
Some say that even more than 75%.

Vlad1234

14 Apr 2013

Genealogy / Create gene bank of Slavic and therefore Polish people? [44]

I've heard that scientists create genetic bank samples of very rare and disappearing creatures.
Some animals were resurrected with such method.What do you think about Slavic gene bank creation?
Fertility rates in Slavic countries:

Russia - 1.61
Macedonia - 1.59
Belarus - 1.45
Croatia - 1.44
Bulgaria - 1.43
Serbia - 1.40
Slovakia - 1.37
Poland - 1.31
Slovenia - 1.31
Ukraine - 1.29
Czech rep. - 1.27
Bosnia and Herzegovina - 1.24

Vlad1234

14 Apr 2013

Genealogy / Create gene bank of Slavic and therefore Polish people? [44]

If they came from a genetic pool of Slavs that is not to say the future of current or historical Slavic countries would still be that way.

It takes thousands if not tens of thousands of years for completely new phenotype to be shaped and we live in a time when old phenotypes disapper much faster (in historical means) than they are created.Probably humanity just experience some non-favorable period in history.Take in attention that all nations with relatively high education standards are not inclined to have natural replacement fertility levels.Modern young people have to study to long to get education and experience and after desperatly look for any work.So do we suppose to wait before all the educated people will disappear and forever lost genetic fond associated with them?Who will ressurrect Slavs and their culture?Well it could be done by those Slavs who will manage to survive and be happy to see more favorable conditions in far future, and principal changes in lifestile and technology.Then they could recreate Slavic cultures somewhere on Mars.

Also, some genetic abnormalities skip generations.

People with obvious and harmfull genetic abnormalities are not necessarly should be resurrected.But even they could be an interesting genetical material for investigation and research.In the future genetic science may go farther ahead and it would not be difficult to make genetic analysis of an stem cell and define its genetical phenotype before resurrection.

I don't know but if some modern scientists are very eager to resurrect mamots or dinosaurs then humans of the past could be of some interest too.

Vlad1234

17 Apr 2013

Life / Could Poland become an immigrant country? [42]

What is relation of majority of Poles towards policies of their Western neighbours
in conducting immigration policies?Will Poland welcome third-worlders someday?
What will be reaction of Poles if millions of people from Africa and Asia will come in?

Vlad1234

18 Apr 2013

Life / Could Poland become an immigrant country? [42]

Why ? Polish state is so hostile to people living here that millions of Poles are actually leaving...

So you do not even asume life in Poland will ever improve?

Vlad1234

18 Apr 2013

Life / Could Poland become an immigrant country? [42]

Asia?As I know there is already 20.000 people from Chechnya alone who received
asylum in Poland.There were few cases when some Poles set their houses on fire.

Vlad1234

19 Apr 2013

Life / Could Poland become an immigrant country? [42]

Ironically,lots of Ukrainians too.....

Lots of Ukrainians cominng in Poland now and in recent years?For permanent residency?

not exactly coming from the first world themselves.

Ukraine is part of fist world by means of certain intellectual and educational traditions.Tons of third-worlders study in Ukrainian universities.

Vlad1234

21 Apr 2013

Life / Could Poland become an immigrant country? [42]

Plenty Vietnamese in Poland...

And what is relation of Polish majority to this fact?
Do you think there is some principal differences in mentality between Poles and
their western neighbours in veiw on immigration issue?