Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Poles and Russians -- love-hate relationship? [209]
What do you exactly mean by that?
Perhaps because Russia brought the world the worst geo-political disaster of the 20th century
What do you exactly mean by that?
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Poles and Russians -- love-hate relationship? [209]
Principally I'm not trying to achieve it, so do I waste time?
This is a more realistic direction we can work to.
I never lived in Russia, so why do I need regard their leaders as my leaders (at least at a given point)?
Still relation of Poles to Russia makes me wonder. Russians can live good or bad in their country, they can be happy or unhappy with
their leaders. But what is a deep concern and even obsession of other nations about that?! If Russians experience(d) some problems in their own country, why hate them for this?! Some generous person would rather start to think how to help them...
If you want justify your hate by issuing some historical count to Russians maybe we will go more deeply in it and come to the facts?
Poles in general do not like or trust the Russian state.
Principally I'm not trying to achieve it, so do I waste time?
We have nothing against Russian people.
This is a more realistic direction we can work to.
But we will never trust your leaders.
I never lived in Russia, so why do I need regard their leaders as my leaders (at least at a given point)?
Still relation of Poles to Russia makes me wonder. Russians can live good or bad in their country, they can be happy or unhappy with
their leaders. But what is a deep concern and even obsession of other nations about that?! If Russians experience(d) some problems in their own country, why hate them for this?! Some generous person would rather start to think how to help them...
If you want justify your hate by issuing some historical count to Russians maybe we will go more deeply in it and come to the facts?
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
This is impressive! Could you name some particular companies which export ships, aviation engines & components, furniture and software in Canada? I think if Poland would export only food in Canada they've already did a remarkable success! You can find it in many stores and supermarkets. Probably you have strong trade relations particularly with Canada?
I very glad for you (wipes tear). It is good for Ukraine to have such a developed neighbor. I hope Poland and Ukraine will become friends someday.
I think one of the reasons why Eastern Slavic countries have failed in some important aspects can be lack of desire of people in these countries to stand for each other. What includes a lack of an ethnic and basic solidarity. In Poland people are more united probably and tend to help each other more.
But Poland's export to Canada is 3 times bigger than Canadian export to Poland. It's largely made of ships, aviation engines & components
This is impressive! Could you name some particular companies which export ships, aviation engines & components, furniture and software in Canada? I think if Poland would export only food in Canada they've already did a remarkable success! You can find it in many stores and supermarkets. Probably you have strong trade relations particularly with Canada?
After that Poland made the biggest progress (perhaps except Estonia) out of all commies countries.
I very glad for you (wipes tear). It is good for Ukraine to have such a developed neighbor. I hope Poland and Ukraine will become friends someday.
The poorest ? Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia, Serbia, Kosovo etc. What they all have in common is Russian intervention and a refusal to reform.
I think one of the reasons why Eastern Slavic countries have failed in some important aspects can be lack of desire of people in these countries to stand for each other. What includes a lack of an ethnic and basic solidarity. In Poland people are more united probably and tend to help each other more.
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
Only once as a child I sold apricots on the market. Business was good. A good free money sufficient for icecream. (smile)
But it was during the last year of USSR. I didn't visit Ukraine for a while, so maybe you will tell my what is a problem? A wrong legislation?
Only once as a child I sold apricots on the market. Business was good. A good free money sufficient for icecream. (smile)
But it was during the last year of USSR. I didn't visit Ukraine for a while, so maybe you will tell my what is a problem? A wrong legislation?
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Poles and Russians -- love-hate relationship? [209]
About how it started. At the end of 18-th century Ottaman Empire was on the verge of collapse. They've been beaten badly by Russian army and the Western Powers realized the next war won by Russia may mean all the Balkans falling to the Russian control and immense strengthening of Russia. They decided to prevent it at any cost. Prussia and Austria threatened Russia with war if they going to fight Ottamans again and as a compensation FORCED Russia to participate in partition of Poland. Poland was divided into three parts one of which passed to Russia. In difference from those parts which passed to Germany and Austria Russian part preserved some nominal official autonomy and became called by Russians as "Princedom of Poland". They preserved even some government institutions such as the Senate and separate legal system. Russian Queen Catherine the II made the last Polish king Poniatowski her official favorite (lover) and settled him in a luxury palace. She allocate a huge allowance for his luxury life. Later in 19-th century there was Polish uprising against Russian rule lead by Kostushko. There were large casualties from Russian side both military and civilian. Yet Russians didn't punish captured Kostushko anyhow and simply released him for a sake of a Russian-Polish brotherhood. Later Kostushko fought in US and made career of a prominent general.
I'm not aware if Russians personally owned large parcels of land in Poland during "imperial rule" period. But the opposite is know exactly. Ethnic Poles owned many, likely majority of private lands in large territories of modern Western Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania. And constituted a prominent segment of Russian nobility. And even though Polish often severely discriminated their Ruthenian/Ukrainian/Belarussian serfs, Russian rulers not only refused support anti-Polish uprisings of the Orthodox peasants (for example in Central and Western Ukraine) but even sent Russian troops for Polish protection. For example Catherine the II. And this is regardless the fact that the leaders of the uprisings represented themselves as pro-Russian!
As a pole I understand our relationship with russians. Russians have hurt us greatly. We were under russian imperial rule for 123 years
About how it started. At the end of 18-th century Ottaman Empire was on the verge of collapse. They've been beaten badly by Russian army and the Western Powers realized the next war won by Russia may mean all the Balkans falling to the Russian control and immense strengthening of Russia. They decided to prevent it at any cost. Prussia and Austria threatened Russia with war if they going to fight Ottamans again and as a compensation FORCED Russia to participate in partition of Poland. Poland was divided into three parts one of which passed to Russia. In difference from those parts which passed to Germany and Austria Russian part preserved some nominal official autonomy and became called by Russians as "Princedom of Poland". They preserved even some government institutions such as the Senate and separate legal system. Russian Queen Catherine the II made the last Polish king Poniatowski her official favorite (lover) and settled him in a luxury palace. She allocate a huge allowance for his luxury life. Later in 19-th century there was Polish uprising against Russian rule lead by Kostushko. There were large casualties from Russian side both military and civilian. Yet Russians didn't punish captured Kostushko anyhow and simply released him for a sake of a Russian-Polish brotherhood. Later Kostushko fought in US and made career of a prominent general.
I'm not aware if Russians personally owned large parcels of land in Poland during "imperial rule" period. But the opposite is know exactly. Ethnic Poles owned many, likely majority of private lands in large territories of modern Western Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania. And constituted a prominent segment of Russian nobility. And even though Polish often severely discriminated their Ruthenian/Ukrainian/Belarussian serfs, Russian rulers not only refused support anti-Polish uprisings of the Orthodox peasants (for example in Central and Western Ukraine) but even sent Russian troops for Polish protection. For example Catherine the II. And this is regardless the fact that the leaders of the uprisings represented themselves as pro-Russian!
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
So now markets in Ukraine aren't free?
So now markets in Ukraine aren't free?
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
And certainly Czech if you included them. Still it depends on how you calculate GDP. How much Polish manufacturing grew in the last 30 years? Here in Canada I purchase alimentary goods "made in Poland" sometimes, such as herbs, chocolate, soar cabbage or similar but never saw any Polish product other than food.
What kind of reform do you think they need?
No it is not one of the richest now - but it is in the middle and has overtaken wvery other east european nation except Slovenia.
And certainly Czech if you included them. Still it depends on how you calculate GDP. How much Polish manufacturing grew in the last 30 years? Here in Canada I purchase alimentary goods "made in Poland" sometimes, such as herbs, chocolate, soar cabbage or similar but never saw any Polish product other than food.
The poorest ? Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia, Serbia, Kosovo etc. What they all have in common is Russian intervention and a refusal to reform.
What kind of reform do you think they need?
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
Does it make a reason to make up the facts to make Russians guilty in all the crimes during the past history? I prefer objectivity over propaganda. I dislike demonization of any nation. Regarding Russian threat. Russian population continues to age and shrink quickly, significance of the hydrocarbons will fall with time. The only territory Russia added during 18 years of Putin rule was Crimea which size is 27,000 km2 (compared to 17 million km2 of Russia total size). If Russia will continue with the same speed it wouldn't be able to double its territory even in 10.000 years.
Mongolia is in no position to threaten anyone. Russia however is.
Does it make a reason to make up the facts to make Russians guilty in all the crimes during the past history? I prefer objectivity over propaganda. I dislike demonization of any nation. Regarding Russian threat. Russian population continues to age and shrink quickly, significance of the hydrocarbons will fall with time. The only territory Russia added during 18 years of Putin rule was Crimea which size is 27,000 km2 (compared to 17 million km2 of Russia total size). If Russia will continue with the same speed it wouldn't be able to double its territory even in 10.000 years.
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
He wrote that Poland was one of the poorest in Europe in 1989. Is it one of the richest now?
You would be wondered but according to a modern sources the system that existed in Hungary in 1960-1980-th was one of mildest in Eastern and Central Europe of those times. According to some sources they didn't even have a truly guarded border with Austria and anyone who really wanted to trespass it, could do it. This is not a propaganda (don't get scared), but just a historical curiosity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulash_Communism
With the same success he can regret about demise of Russian Empire in its 1866 borders.
What is typical to a leaders of a countries which were a large empires once. For example mongols praise Gengiz-Khan and built him a huge monument in Ulan-Battor.
Does it mean we need get scary of Russian monarchists and afraid of Mongol invasion?
I am not sure where you are going with this...
He wrote that Poland was one of the poorest in Europe in 1989. Is it one of the richest now?
You would be wondered but according to a modern sources the system that existed in Hungary in 1960-1980-th was one of mildest in Eastern and Central Europe of those times. According to some sources they didn't even have a truly guarded border with Austria and anyone who really wanted to trespass it, could do it. This is not a propaganda (don't get scared), but just a historical curiosity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulash_Communism
Because the current leader of Russia openly voiced his regret about the SU's demise
With the same success he can regret about demise of Russian Empire in its 1866 borders.
What is typical to a leaders of a countries which were a large empires once. For example mongols praise Gengiz-Khan and built him a huge monument in Ulan-Battor.
Does it mean we need get scary of Russian monarchists and afraid of Mongol invasion?
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
I meant if some actions of Soviet government are used to represented them as a "Russian crimes" why not bring some facts just for objectivity? In any case USSR is long gone. Why to get scary with "Soviet propaganda"?
I meant if some actions of Soviet government are used to represented them as a "Russian crimes" why not bring some facts just for objectivity? In any case USSR is long gone. Why to get scary with "Soviet propaganda"?
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
According to wikipedia:
On the Polish side, 3,000-7,000 soldiers died fighting the Red Army, with 230,000-450,000 taken prisoner.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland#Aftermath
No number of a dead civilians is even mentioned in wikipedia. Can you provide any link?
There were many Polish citizens of other nationalities. Not sure there was any strict ethnic selection. Soviet government claimed they selected them for been members of a Polish officers families, intelligentsia, administrators etc. Those people who they believed were capable to engage in anti-Soviet activity or switch to the enemy side in the War. Many of these people died in Russia been unprepaired for harsh conditions, but many successfully returned back to Poland or decided to stay in Russia by the good will. I wonder what would be their fate if they would get into German occupation a year later.
Only Soviet fault? Haven't Eastern Germans, Czechs or Hungarians been subjected to a similar system? Did the live exactly like Poles did?
The thread was about the Russians, not the Soviets. And subsequently some crimes attributed to an "ethnic" Russians. No propaganda here. Only the facts taken from reliable sources that matter.
Yes in 1939 they bombarded and destroyed many Eastern Polish cities with artillery. Whole villages were burned and the inhabitants slaughtered and raped during the Soviet advance at the end of the war
According to wikipedia:
On the Polish side, 3,000-7,000 soldiers died fighting the Red Army, with 230,000-450,000 taken prisoner.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland#Aftermath
No number of a dead civilians is even mentioned in wikipedia. Can you provide any link?
Yes the USSR deported hundreds of thousands of Poles, basically just for being Polish
There were many Polish citizens of other nationalities. Not sure there was any strict ethnic selection. Soviet government claimed they selected them for been members of a Polish officers families, intelligentsia, administrators etc. Those people who they believed were capable to engage in anti-Soviet activity or switch to the enemy side in the War. Many of these people died in Russia been unprepaired for harsh conditions, but many successfully returned back to Poland or decided to stay in Russia by the good will. I wonder what would be their fate if they would get into German occupation a year later.
Soviet rule left Poland one of the poorest countries in Europe by 1989.
Only Soviet fault? Haven't Eastern Germans, Czechs or Hungarians been subjected to a similar system? Did the live exactly like Poles did?
Your 'knowledge' sounds like Soviet propaganda.. hmm in fact it is a soviet propaganda in a form of an opinion.
The thread was about the Russians, not the Soviets. And subsequently some crimes attributed to an "ethnic" Russians. No propaganda here. Only the facts taken from reliable sources that matter.
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]
Can be completely equalized? Not sure. To my knowledge Russians didn't level entire Polish cities (like Warsaw) to the ground, didn't send millions of ethnic Poles to die in camps just for been Polish and didn't carry the plans to eliminate Polish state and Polish ethnicity altogether. Even contra they've injected hundreds of billions of USD in Polish economy during 1945-1989 and even sent the first Polish cosmonaut to the space.
from what i know, both Russia and Germany did kind of terrible things to Poland like Japan did to Korea.
Can be completely equalized? Not sure. To my knowledge Russians didn't level entire Polish cities (like Warsaw) to the ground, didn't send millions of ethnic Poles to die in camps just for been Polish and didn't carry the plans to eliminate Polish state and Polish ethnicity altogether. Even contra they've injected hundreds of billions of USD in Polish economy during 1945-1989 and even sent the first Polish cosmonaut to the space.
Vlad1234
27 Sep 2018
History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]
The distance will not separate a friendly hearts. I write it to you from Canada (smile).
So, if Three Seas Area isn`t for Serbia and Ukraine to join then they are territoriality separated, what isn`t acceptable.
The distance will not separate a friendly hearts. I write it to you from Canada (smile).
Vlad1234
25 Sep 2018
History / What is Poles opinion on Intermarium (Międzymorze)? [188]
The leaders of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine all expressed desire to enter EU (at least some of them in the past). They aren't going to be accept any time soon and I think that a Slavic Union (which may also include non-Slavic members) could be a good ski jumping rope for them as a preparation before joining EU somewhere in the future.
As a Ukrainian I think that a Polish-Ukrainian Confederacy alone would create a formidable union with 80 million population and 1 million square kilometers territory. Add skillful Polish administration and investment capital to skilled Ukrainian workforce and resources. Russia could be a good possession for a Union as well thanks to its huge resources and technical skills in certain areas. In 2014 Putin expressed desire to create a free trade zone from Portugal to The Pacific. I think that historically Ukraine, Belarus and parts of Russia belong to Europe (or at least originally were), culturally and civilization-wise and all European countries need to rethink their farther integration.
The leaders of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine all expressed desire to enter EU (at least some of them in the past). They aren't going to be accept any time soon and I think that a Slavic Union (which may also include non-Slavic members) could be a good ski jumping rope for them as a preparation before joining EU somewhere in the future.
As a Ukrainian I think that a Polish-Ukrainian Confederacy alone would create a formidable union with 80 million population and 1 million square kilometers territory. Add skillful Polish administration and investment capital to skilled Ukrainian workforce and resources. Russia could be a good possession for a Union as well thanks to its huge resources and technical skills in certain areas. In 2014 Putin expressed desire to create a free trade zone from Portugal to The Pacific. I think that historically Ukraine, Belarus and parts of Russia belong to Europe (or at least originally were), culturally and civilization-wise and all European countries need to rethink their farther integration.
Vlad1234
2 Jun 2015
Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]
I didn't even knew this is typicaly Germanic make up (click to enlarge):
Then too, there's considerable Germanic in the Polish make-up
I didn't even knew this is typicaly Germanic make up (click to enlarge):
Vlad1234
2 Jun 2015
History / The Polans - founders of Kiev and Kievan Rus'. [6]
And what was their self-name before 966?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polans_(western)
And what was their self-name before 966?
The Polans (also known as Polanes, Polanians; Polish: Polanie, derived from Old Slavic pole, "field" or "plain", see polje) were a West Slavic tribe, part of the Lechitic group, inhabiting the Warta River basin of the historic Greater Poland region in the 8th century.
In the 9th century the Polans united several West Slavic groups to the north of Great Moravia. The union led by the Piast dynasty developed into the Kingdom of Poland, whose name derives from that of the Polans.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polans_(western)
Vlad1234
2 Jun 2015
History / Differences between Poland and Russia [43]
Peter the I, Catherine the Great, Enlightment, hundreds of thousands of German, French, Italian and Western European settlers, engineers, architects, generals, nobles welcomed in Russia, granted with privilegies, correspondence of Russian Tsars with Voltaire, abolishment of death penalty by Catherine II in 18-th (!) century, abolishment of serfdom in 1861 (in Poland only in 1863), French as the first knowledge of Russian court and perfect knowledge of French, German, English etc. by Russian emperors and nobles, Citizenship war, White movement, dissident movement, M. Gorbachev, perestroika, Yeltsin etc...
8- Russia was closed of to the west, Poland welcomed the west
10- Different cultural preferences, russians tend to be very eastern in mindset, polE's are more european.
11- General polish hostility to communism (while not 100%) and general russian exeptance of communism
10- Different cultural preferences, russians tend to be very eastern in mindset, polE's are more european.
11- General polish hostility to communism (while not 100%) and general russian exeptance of communism
Peter the I, Catherine the Great, Enlightment, hundreds of thousands of German, French, Italian and Western European settlers, engineers, architects, generals, nobles welcomed in Russia, granted with privilegies, correspondence of Russian Tsars with Voltaire, abolishment of death penalty by Catherine II in 18-th (!) century, abolishment of serfdom in 1861 (in Poland only in 1863), French as the first knowledge of Russian court and perfect knowledge of French, German, English etc. by Russian emperors and nobles, Citizenship war, White movement, dissident movement, M. Gorbachev, perestroika, Yeltsin etc...
Vlad1234
1 Jun 2015
Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]
What about Polish word ''gospodarka"? What is origins? In Belarussian gospodar=mister. In Russian, Serbian gospodin = mister, lord.
What about Polish word ''gospodarka"? What is origins? In Belarussian gospodar=mister. In Russian, Serbian gospodin = mister, lord.
Vlad1234
1 Jun 2015
History / The Polans - founders of Kiev and Kievan Rus'. [6]
Do you know that:
Cropped 100+ words
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polans_%28eastern%29
There would be nothing wondering if currently Ukraine would bear name of ''Polansland'' or similar...
Do you know that:
The Polans (Polish: Polanie; Ukrainian: Поляни Polyany; Russian: Поляне Polyane); also Polianians; were a Slavic tribe between the 6th and the 9th century, which inhabited both sides of the Dnieper river from Liubech to Rodnia and also down the lower streams of the rivers Ros', Sula, Stuhna, Teteriv, Irpin', Desna and Pripyat. In the Early Middle Ages there were two separate Slavic tribes bearing the name of Polans, the other being the western Polans (ancestors of the modern Poles). The name derives from the Old East Slavic word поле or поляна (polyana), which means "field", because the Polans used to settle in the open fields.
Cropped 100+ words
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polans_%28eastern%29
There would be nothing wondering if currently Ukraine would bear name of ''Polansland'' or similar...
Vlad1234
1 Jun 2015
History / Chance of Lwów once again became coming part of Poland [344]
I wouldn't be wondered if majority of Lviv inhabitants would agree to become Polish citizens. Inhabitants of rural areas even more though. However Ukrainian govt. and rest of Ukraine would hardly tolerate it. Another problem is the language. It's not quite merciful to force people to speak in hissing language.
No i wouldn't have a problem with any Ukrainians in Lviv if it became part of Poland again
I wouldn't be wondered if majority of Lviv inhabitants would agree to become Polish citizens. Inhabitants of rural areas even more though. However Ukrainian govt. and rest of Ukraine would hardly tolerate it. Another problem is the language. It's not quite merciful to force people to speak in hissing language.
Vlad1234
30 May 2015
Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]
English_Polish - English_Russian
Cloud_Chmura - Cloudy(person)_Chmuryj
Curse_Klatwa - Oath_Kliatwa
Citizens_Obywatele - Inhabitants_Obywatieli
Groin - Pachwina - Pach
Reptiles - Gady - Gady (archaic)
Sick - Chory - Chworyj (archaic)
If - Jeżeli - Jeżeli
Windy - Wietrzny - Wietriennyj
Could somebody reveal to me origins of Polish word "wykidajlo" - a bouncer? The same as Russian wyszybala. In Russian wykidat' means "through away something" for example garbage. Is there a similar word in Polish or this is a borrowing?
English_Polish - English_Russian
Cloud_Chmura - Cloudy(person)_Chmuryj
Curse_Klatwa - Oath_Kliatwa
Citizens_Obywatele - Inhabitants_Obywatieli
Groin - Pachwina - Pach
Reptiles - Gady - Gady (archaic)
Sick - Chory - Chworyj (archaic)
If - Jeżeli - Jeżeli
Windy - Wietrzny - Wietriennyj
Could somebody reveal to me origins of Polish word "wykidajlo" - a bouncer? The same as Russian wyszybala. In Russian wykidat' means "through away something" for example garbage. Is there a similar word in Polish or this is a borrowing?
Vlad1234
30 May 2015
News / Personal opinions - Is there western European and USA plot against interests of Poland and Polish people? [32]
Now Western European countries slowly push U.S. out of their territory. Wonder where this bases will relocate instead. Why Europe can't just live peacefully?
bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30731926
Now Western European countries slowly push U.S. out of their territory. Wonder where this bases will relocate instead. Why Europe can't just live peacefully?
bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30731926
Vlad1234
30 May 2015
News / Personal opinions - Is there western European and USA plot against interests of Poland and Polish people? [32]
If they will place nuclear missiles in Central Europe and military bases and antimissile systems, then how Russia would be able not to bomb them? And maybe they already secretly have nuclear bombers in Poland? Do you think they are so full not to use them as a shield in full?
Practically, Central Europeans can start to pray for Russian ingenuity.
If they will place nuclear missiles in Central Europe and military bases and antimissile systems, then how Russia would be able not to bomb them? And maybe they already secretly have nuclear bombers in Poland? Do you think they are so full not to use them as a shield in full?
Vlad1234
30 May 2015
News / Personal opinions - Is there western European and USA plot against interests of Poland and Polish people? [32]
Yes, there is a real question, why EU accepts countries which are an obvious economic burden if not for a strategic military considerations? And how expendible will be these countries in a case of a full scale war?
Yes, there is a real question, why EU accepts countries which are an obvious economic burden if not for a strategic military considerations? And how expendible will be these countries in a case of a full scale war?
Vlad1234
30 May 2015
News / Personal opinions - Is there western European and USA plot against interests of Poland and Polish people? [32]
Well, the theme of the topic-starter is not as crazy as it seems. What makes me really wonder: how is it possible that the nations who just 70 years ago fiercely fought with each other and robed each other and struggled for survival and every piece of land and each one slave and wanted to eliminate some nations - for example Poles,at all, now became like a marvel princes who want to make anyone around happy? Have any genetic, mental or technological changes really happened to such an extent? At the moment of their entrance to EU such countries as Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, and likely Poland and Lithuania obviously didn't satisfy to economic standards of EU to be accepted. However before entering EU, ALL of them joined NATO. Now NATO push for war with Russia closer and closer. They want to build military objects in Romania, Poland and Czech rep. They want to build military bases there and enter military forces. A prelude for a nuclear war? What will remain from Central Europe if it will start?
Well, the theme of the topic-starter is not as crazy as it seems. What makes me really wonder: how is it possible that the nations who just 70 years ago fiercely fought with each other and robed each other and struggled for survival and every piece of land and each one slave and wanted to eliminate some nations - for example Poles,at all, now became like a marvel princes who want to make anyone around happy? Have any genetic, mental or technological changes really happened to such an extent? At the moment of their entrance to EU such countries as Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, and likely Poland and Lithuania obviously didn't satisfy to economic standards of EU to be accepted. However before entering EU, ALL of them joined NATO. Now NATO push for war with Russia closer and closer. They want to build military objects in Romania, Poland and Czech rep. They want to build military bases there and enter military forces. A prelude for a nuclear war? What will remain from Central Europe if it will start?
Vlad1234
29 May 2015
History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]
They could continue to receive financial support from EU after forming Confederacy.
Yes, but only with a lot of help and financial support from the EU.
They could continue to receive financial support from EU after forming Confederacy.
Vlad1234
29 May 2015
History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]
Does one thing prevent the other? And do you think that majority of Czechs, Slovaks and Poles are have-nots? If we belive to an official legends economy is steadily developing in this countries. Ukrainian economy could grow ten percent annually I guess, if it could receive a stable and trustworthy govt.
Does one thing prevent the other? And do you think that majority of Czechs, Slovaks and Poles are have-nots? If we belive to an official legends economy is steadily developing in this countries. Ukrainian economy could grow ten percent annually I guess, if it could receive a stable and trustworthy govt.
Vlad1234
29 May 2015
History / Give Poland back it's lost land ! [132]
I think a Confederacy of Slavic nations could be created. Total population of Poland + Czech republic + Slovakia close to 60 mln. If Ukraine will be included in this Confederacy (with its population no more than 40 mln) the preponderance still be on Western side. A union could be settled in a way that it wouldn't hurt anyone and wouldn't create influx of poor to rich cities. Polulation of all these countries is diminishing all the same and they could solve this problem either by taking in immigrants or unification. A large Confederacy with 100 mln. population could be created. Most of executive govt will be in hands of Western Slavic republics. Your thoughts?
I think a Confederacy of Slavic nations could be created. Total population of Poland + Czech republic + Slovakia close to 60 mln. If Ukraine will be included in this Confederacy (with its population no more than 40 mln) the preponderance still be on Western side. A union could be settled in a way that it wouldn't hurt anyone and wouldn't create influx of poor to rich cities. Polulation of all these countries is diminishing all the same and they could solve this problem either by taking in immigrants or unification. A large Confederacy with 100 mln. population could be created. Most of executive govt will be in hands of Western Slavic republics. Your thoughts?
Vlad1234
28 May 2015
Vlad1234
28 May 2015
Language / Slavic languages words similarities with Polish [238]
Yes, it seems...
In Polish something that is spelled "rjeka" and "rieka" has exactly the same pronounciation.
Yes, it seems...