Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [656]


There's nothing wrong with that at all. Yet being an European is, apart from genetic background, also a certain type of mentality and cultural background.

European culture was traditionally based on Greek philosophy, Roman law and Christianity.

Since then many societies in Europe have drifted apart from those roots and in fact become less European

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


I think she has understood by now that she lost that battle.

Speaking of which a group of Poles has greeted her in Warsaw today. I love the helmet.

Life / Political correctness in Poland [210]


And since Africa is coming to Europe in large numbers I think they fancy new iphones and nice cars more than living in peace with nature

Life / Political correctness in Poland [210]


Indians have almost all of this minus material wealth so you should consider yourself lucky :-)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Let's be fair though, Lyzko, the whole Western world stereotypes Germans. I don't even know if there's one single regular German left in Germany, just walking stereotypes like a good 'ol @BratwurstBoy here :-)

And lets remember that American Germans were the ones who invented so called "polish jokes" which depicted all Poles in a less than favourable way.

Another thing is that when a person brags about his country's accomplishments he also needs to accountable for its failures.


I wish we had some Finns on this forum.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Germany wanted us to share the problems they've created themselves and are furious that we dared to refuse it

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]



Wow, making a poor quality propaganda is easier that I though, thanks @BratwurstBoy :-P

And also thanks for the tip that it is enough to call someone a "nutter" instead for providing a decent argument or a relevant point in discussion.

From now on we're going to be discussing German style :-)

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


A drop of water bores through rock. And this thread is also suitable


I did. About the economy. Maybe that subject was a bit too heavy for you but it's worth to learn.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Anyway, a more current topic. A banner, that Polish National Movement wants to use to greet Angela Merkel during her visit in Warsaw later today:

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


So you strongly believe that without constant supervision Germany will do something awful again? What you said sounded like a threat but a threat that completely exposes you and shows your weak spots.

And you also should know from history that Poland never back down to threat even when the threat was much greater than it is now.

Yet, in the age when German youth is running away from military service and when German men sit and cry when their girlfriend is being raped right in front of their eyes that's a really bold statement.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]


Well, you are an expert on that so I won't deny it. Sadly, all that I see here is a state of modern Sweden. Which is unfortunate cause I like Swedes.


Typical German mind which only operates in two extreme modes. Either kill them all and make soap out of them or let them all rape us and don't protest (and those who protest call them nazis that will show them!).

Have you ever heard about like different, more civilized measures? Like border control for example? :-)

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


EEC was far less political than the EU is so it is a move in the right direction. And also, in the future we can make it completely and purely about free trade and single market and nothing else but that. Life is a water not stone, my friend.

Why are you so keen about that "political aspect" of European integration anyway? Can't a regular German live a single day without thinking about controlling the others? Maybe, for a change, you should start with controlling what happens in your own country?


Not really, but it will be in the near future. And not because you would want to but simply because you will have to accept the new reality.

News / "It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland) [1798]

Modern Europe in just 2 images.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


I think don't you understand the idea behind EEC. There're would be no room there for any "structural funds" or "financial aids" just a good old single free market, like the one envisioned by Adam Smith. A platform for free and voluntary exchange of goods and services. Poland would thrive in such an environment.


Poland doesn't have to "admitted to such a club" since it wouldn't be a club but exactly the opposite: that would be a lack of club. That would be just a free market platform for free exchange of goods. Like a small enhanced WTO on an European scale.

And what would be the alternative to that? The answer is simple: customs war. That wouldn't be a good option for Poland but even worse for Germany, an "export champion of the world".

Germany would be hit twice: once when exporting goods to Poland and second time when importing half-products from Poland for German automotive industry.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]

How leftist media and @delphiandomine sees Independence March in Poland:



And how does it really looks like:

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


Who said anything about leaving when the EU when in fact it will collapse on its own? [for the reasons I've stated before] .

The EU is a political and ideological failed project when in fact all we need is just a free single market in Europe.

And that's what European Economic Community used to be before the leftist bureaucrats started to change into some kind of Huxley's negative utopia.

So I think that on a cold corpse of the EU we will be able to create a new EEC, just a free trade pact with no ideological strings attached.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]

You are paying taxes in Poland. That may make you, in the eyes of a radical left, a supporter of PiS you know? I bet they are using your hard earned money for some no good purpose:

- look boss, its a tax money from that left-leaning Scottish guy living in Poznan

- cool, let's use it for promoting a traditional Catholic model of a family in our state controlled media

:-P

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]


So he is Scottish unionist then? And he moved to that unashamedly white unapologetically conservative Catholic Poland? That's interesting.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


That is exactly what it is. And we have to change it


They would soon realise that I'm far more radical than them when it comes to foreign politics of Poland. And also that I'm a supporter of a free market capitalism, cuts in bureaucracy, and that I would rather lower the taxes instead of creating welfare programs. So I wouldn't be very welcomed.

I know it would be easier for you to put me in the box and then stomp on it, but you'll have to attack my arguments instead of me personally as a "member of PiS" :-)


A remedy for that problem is NATO not the EU. European Union has nothing to do with military pact

As a side note: Germany doesn't see it as a problem making a strategic deals like Northstream II with Russia behind our backs and against our will.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


They don't have to support us directly. It is enough if they bring disruption and make the EU core weaken its grip.

Politics is like a game of chess and you have a mindset that of a checkers player.

The real reason why there's an attack on Poland is that Poland on the rise and it represents values which are 'unacceptable' for the old EU: patriotism, conservatism, Christian religion.

They don't give a squat about some commie judges being released, all they care about is to be able to 'discipline' us at will and influence Poland in the way they want.

And Poland cannot bend to that pressure.

At first they'll fight us but then they'll have to accept the new state of things and deal with us on new terms and conditions.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]

The families are present, the kids are present and also a young patriotic men are present. Young men are the future on the nation so there's nothing wrong with that there's so many of them on the march, quite on the contrary.

But that doesn't change the fact that the families with kids and young women are also present on the march in big numbers.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


Yes we can, it's is only a matter of putting enough pressure on the EU institutions and getting enough allies to support us. Right now the EU puts pressure on us but this dynamic may reverse sooner that you think.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


So the wishes of Poland should be equally satisfied as the wishes of Germany or France.

And we also have the same right to shape the EU according to our wishes.

Poland wishes the EU to become the Europe of sovereign nations and not some socialistic federation.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


Cause they are. The 'core' of the EU is now absorbed with this new situation in Italy. The mortal enemies of the EU bureaucracy are 'nationalist' governments.

The worst case scenario would be a solid front of UE countries against Poland [and Hungary]. Just like it was, and won't be possible again, back in 2000's when the whole of the EU was against newly elected Austrian right-wing government of Jorg Haider. But the situation has changed and the EU has more than one face now. And Germany is slowly losing it's leading role.

In the future the EU would either collapse or become more right-wing and conservative "The Europe of nations". And since they EU was built as a leftist project right from the beginning, I predict it would rather collapse.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


That's why there are over 2 million young Ukrainian labourers on work visas in Poland. As opposed to 'refugees' they came here to work and to contribute to the economy. They also do not tend to commit terrorist attacks.


There's a lot of German companies active on Polish market, many of them are involved in building infrastructure in Poland. They will be equally hit by this possible structural funds reduction.

Also, Poland may look at China in a more favourable way and support their new Silk Road project when treated unfairly by the UE and Germany. China is very anxious to get a direct connection to European market and even started a 16+1 platform of cooperation. Poland has some good cards in hand and more than one player to play with.

spiegel.de/international/business/chinese-economic-expansion-has-germany-worried-a-1209325.html

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


This is also an interesting subject since Polish economy is growing at a much faster pace than the "old EU" Poland will soon become a net payer to the EU budget. We're talking about ~10 years from now.

So the "structural fund blackmail" will be the thing of the past in a near future.

Yet I think that if we have to make a choice between losing some structural funds now or committing a demographic suicide and taking those "refugees", it is still better to forget about the money. This will pay better in the long term.

And also this kind of blackmail from the EU pushes Poles more to the right, which in my opinion is a good thing, yet the EU wouldn't like that.

We've got something to lose but also the EU. The days of pushing Poland around are over.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


They would rather stop any refugees from coming to Italy at all instead of dividing them. But since the last government took so many now they want to get rid of them.

And I think that they understand that it is not fault of those who don't want to participate in relocation but rather of those who invited an unlimited numbers of illegals without asking the other countries in Europe.

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


That depends. Cheering for German or Ukrainian nationalists wouldn't be a smart move for Poland. And it doesn't happen in Poland except for some narrow minded individuals.

However, cheering up for Italian nationalists, which doesn't represent any direct threat to Polish interests is a different story. Supporting them only weaken those who are our political rivals. It's a zero sum game we're playing here.

You've mentioned a realpolitik earlier on this forum. That's a lesson in realpolitik for you then @BratwurstBoy.

News / Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet? [1530]

For Polish readers. They know what I'm talking about

News / 'Fort Trump' Military Base in Poland [537]


That's the funniest thing that I've read in a long time on this forum.

In the age of Brexit, the UE war against democratically elected governments of Hungary and Poland, huge refugee crisis in France, Germany and Sweden, Italy bashing the EU and Germany for messing with their new elected government and monetary politics you are talking about strengthening of the EU...

Have you had one schnapps too many today, @BratwurstBoy?