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oxon   
27 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Statements like this make me ashamed to be English..

Let me guess. You're a tree hugging, green wellington boot adorning, peace loving dude.

Let's see how you actually feel when you are out of work one day, you are needing a place to live and all around you are Poles, Latvians, Moldovians and whatever else living in the same block of flats as you 4 to a room., Let's see how you feel when the company under scrutiny presently who are responsible for getting British people back into work (A4e) have three Polish assistants greeting you at the door.

Let's see how you feel when you know that the directors and management of those companies that employ Poles have taken advantage of all the education and health benefits Britain has provided over the decades to keep (some) people able and healthy to do their work for them turn their backs on British people to employ Eastern Europeans who prostitute themselves by undercutting the local workforce.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Increasingly more Polish children born and educated in UK can't write/read! [51]

Hands up who actually knows a Polish family with five or more children. I don't, and you would be hard pushed to find one.
And hands up the last time you heard about poppy-burning, bus-bombing Poles.

i believe you are trying to justify your reasons for being in the UK (if that's where you are). Why are you here and why are all Poles so interested in learning English.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

I personally think its too late now anyway, many immigrants are now second and third generation so how do you send them "home"?

Avalon..I left the UK almost as soon as I left school . I was lucky to get a job in Southern Africa with everything paid for. At the time I wondered what the locals thought of me coming to their country and reaping all the rewards whilst they were condemned to their shacks in sprawling ghettoes far away from where I lived. I put it out my mind as they seemed to be happy, smiley people pleased to do all my cleaning etc for a menial salary.

In time, I understood human nature better and realised that while those people were happy to be working for me, they were making the best of a system that was imposed upon them n a capitalist world. They didn't ask for someone to come to Africa and impose a monetary system upon them. A system which benefits few and leaves the majority fearful. I respected their patience, subservience, general good nature. I was naive. But after 1994 when the ANC came to power a lot of people demanded equal rights and when they didn't get them there was bloodshed and thousands of people died, not through warfare but general crime.

Only after the ANC came to power did a lot of people have the courage to say what had been on their minds for decades. The UK now is fearful but if we have the right leadership we can close the doors and start to look after our own before anythng else happens. This is what the elite fear. The 3 major parties don't give a dam who does the tireless, menial work for the corporates. They can be English, Pole, Lithuanian, Czech...as long as they perform.

If we can cease immigration with immediate effect and pull out the EU so that no one is allowed to come here unless they can make a meaningful contribution to our society in the form of skills and qualifications that cannot be fulfilled here for some reason then that is a start. I now live in Britain and i am British. I have a right to a voice over immigrants who come here simply because they can.

I have a right not to walk down the road in a London suburb and not see Polish or somalian woman pushing prams with 2 kids in tow knowing full well that they are on benefits being paid for by working people. I have a right to a dead end job if that is what I desire. I have the right to sustain my life in my own f****n country!
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

that can be settled the old fashion way no beef here.

I wonder what you are talking about here. A pole advocating violence? Unheard of. They need assistance in that department as they always choose the easy way out in life. So you are telling me to 'go away' . Can I stay in UK please?

stop flaming
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

Do I have a problem with Polaks coming here n the thousands, doing jobs for the elitists so that they can buy bread, sign on welfare, take advantage of all the free NHS goodies on offer, take up rooms and flats that could be utilised by the local people, commit murders and be locked up here at the tax payers expense.

Do I have a problem with Polaks moving into the flat above me armed with their satellite dishes blaring out their programmes and generally being a pest to society.

No, I love 'em. We need more . Whats your beef SHT
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Can I as a Polish student here in UK start my own business? [8]

Yes Dawid..you can open your own business here, your own bank account, get free medication, sign on for welfare and do most things that are denied indigenous people.

You can even engage in racial abuse toward other people in your own language and not be charged. Life here is a beach for Poles.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

your native thugs.

That's right Paiwan........they are OUR native thugs. Like all societies all over the world we have a crime problem and it's bigger than most bar America. (You would have to understand the folly of unfettered capitalism to understand why).

What we sure as hell don't need are polak criminals being fed at the UK tax payers expense.

Since there is a lot of confusion on this site shortHairthug it would help to know what nationality you are as you seem very confused.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

To the Mod who deleted my link. I posted that link re the Polish criminal for a reason.

Poland opted out the prisoner transfer scheme and it seems like Poland simply sent their worst criminals to the UK. that is not anti-Polish, but simply a statement of fact. Castro opened the jails & nut-houses, deposited the criminal & insane on to boats and sent them into the waiting & compassionate arms of Uncle Sam.

I believe the authorities in Poland are working along similar lines, with soft-touch Britain molly-coddling Poland's human refuge, they still arrive daily even though they know theres no work.

I can't see how the establishment of Polish ghettos across the British Isles can aid our cause, as times worsen and with the arrival of the Polish mafia only the truly blinkered can fail to see what fate awaits our own people.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Where the blame lies is with the politicians of this country who opened the floodgates and let people in who they knew would do their work for them. Britain was the only country not to put a cap on the amount of Poles coming here and it's obvious why. Unlike the other European countries, we have a rigid, established class system here and the working class were getting 'to big for their boots' so it made sense to bring in obedient puppy dogs who have no history of questioning their masters.

Game set and match.....except that people are starting to fight back slowly.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

All of my Polish friends that have gone to England have their own company's now or work for highly successful one's

1. Why should they be in the UK working when there are 3-6 million unemployed Britons here. If they are that clever why are they not putting their monumental work ethic to the benefit of their OWN country?

2. What do you define as a successful company? A media/marketing/advertising conglomerate? Part of the reason that these heinous industries exist is because they have poles in low level positions propping them up doing all their dirty work. If you all went home there would be such a shift here. You are actually destroying this nation even further with your blind obedience abd cringe worthy subservience all for a few quid.

You have absolutely no pride other than believing that if you are in gainful employment you must be a success. This is the folly of your communist breeding. Big bosses love you for sure but what you take out of this country in terms of welfare, infrastructure, health, education is far more than what you put into it .
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Ironside...

When one makes the move from “administrator” to the dizzy heights of “senior” administrator, it is more than the job title which changes. On documents and emails, and name badges and things like that, the promoted person can inform those interested that they push paper in a “senior” capacity, thereby giving other lowly “administrators” something to look at to distinguish one paper pusher from another. A visible difference is vital. Visible perks – from a change in job title to a huge corner office – are as important as the private financial perks which are offered in return for obedience. (They may be more important, actually, but are certainly no less so; either way, the basis of advancement is obedience.) :

“We have team spirit stamped upon our heads by managers whose noses are all the same shade of brown. And hardly do the managers work alone in their subjugation of the spirit, this assault on individuality; there are the managers’ obsequious lap-dogs – the senior administrators – with their slobbering mouths and hungry tongues. They whisper, gossip and report back, hoping to curry favour in return for a detestable brownie point, a faecal treat, peeled from the nose of their master and licked off the fingers with glee.”
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

Bad monkey.....oh I don't doubt that there were some poles who were daft enough to join some army somewhere. There were poles in Iraq and Afghanistan were there? And whose uniforms were they wearing?

Yes I know that there are polish heroes.....

sorry ...I didn't mean to post that link. Ignore this and look at this.....

Wrong link ? No worries, I've deleted them for you.

..sorry ,wrong link again, this is the one I seek.

Bad Monkey....i could not give a dam if Poles and other EE's were on welfare, working or swinging from trees. I don't want them here full stop. They are not like Germans, French, italians, Aussies etc. They come to milk the system and subsequently reduce this country to a nightmare doing jobs for the elitists that no self respecting person would do. They are communists for Gods sake. They see this as a paradise.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
Polonia / Polish community in Indonesia? [3]

Why would you seek out a polish community in Indonesia. The reason you are there is to experience other cultures, creeds, habits etc. What is wrong with you?
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

Sally and Paticja....your comments are astounding, they just blow me away. You tell me why the hell this country should take on and handout benefits to Polish people who up until 2004 would have had a hard time trying to pin exactly where UK was on the map. they know now alright courtesy of their Benefits handbook they receive on the National Express coach.

People like you have no idea that British scroungers here (long term unemployed) arn't exactly discouraged from their slothful activities since the army has to recruit from somewhere. You may find this hard to believe but the army recruitment process is much more successful in depressed mining valleys in Wales,Scotland and the bleak housing areas of north east England than Hampstead Heath in London.

Now, as soon as there is a call up where do you think your average Pole scrounger will be . Poles don't join armies, they don't box, they don't play rugby. they are not noted much for doing anything that is physical.

What is wrong with you people. If I didn't understand your communist background, I would swear you were all sub-human.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]

ShawnH
That and if they are really skint, they can't afford the plane ticket.
Plane ticket? There are no runways at bay 19, Victoria Station, London.

Bill....you are havin' a flippin' laugh are you not? You're seriously advocating that unemployed reprobates from Poland should come to the UK and collects benefits because it is equal to or more than 6 months of work? Do you give me strength or what!! Thank you!

I tell you what I do Bill and I wasn't going to mention this since most here are debating at a reasonably intelligent level and I did not want to offend. Racism is illegal and is defined as offensive hate crime but it must be at a level which others can hear and witness.

Just stand very close to those you suspect (and they are easy to spot) and whisper in the woman's ear 'get the f*** out my country you effen bleep,bleep. Men might react in which you may have to pull off an actors innocent shock, horror pose ....women on the other hand those that bear the children that the NHS deliver, will become worried and pressurize their man to leave fearing worse reprisals which will endanger them when they are on their own.

Good post. Thank you.
oxon   
26 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Not really Gregorz.....the higher up the hierarchy I climb, the more embedded I become in the grotesque system and I get more disillusioned with our species. I neither want promotion or a big salary when all I end up with is paying more taxes.

Aim higher??? Are you serious man? We spend all of health acquiring wealth and all of our wealth trying to regain our health.
oxon   
25 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Wedle~~~ maybe what Britain needs is more immigrants. Then there would be no doubt that I would be in the minority and i can use all the race laws to my advantage. Seriously though people, can you not see this from another perspective? There are far too many people here chasing far too few jobs. We don't need Eastern Europeans adding to the misery of the millions here. It's bad enough that London is a sewer for all the degenerates of African nations who have now made this their home.

In all honesty it pains me to see Caucasians behaving like Somalians roaming around the streets pushing their buggys with a pregnant woman at the helm. I've travelled all over London in the last week taking discreet pictures and it isn't pretty. We have to get out of the EU, close the door on immigration and put British people first. British jobs for British people ...remember Gordon Brown famously saying that?

I've been living in a bubble for years. I never realised how bad things had become here. Although i knew full well that a Latvian or Hungarian could racially abuse a Pole and no one would be so absurd as to do anything about it but as soon as I ask someone where they are from there is a hesitancy and the brain ticks over to try and decipher if I have been racially abusive. I am so sick of the whole thing. I'm a minority in my own country.

Hey Teflcat....I've lived about half my life here and half divided between Southern Africa and S.E. Asia If I had wanted to I could have stayed in Australia where i went for a holiday after finishing a contract in Indonesia. AI chose to return for a while because I wanted to actually do something about the state of this country. I will leave again in time but for now I want a small job paying £1,000 pm to pay my way. Not difficult you would think until I get asked for passport, council tax bills, N.I number, bank details, references, driving licence, proof of address, size of my dick etc etc. Why is this? Because there are so many dam immigrants that have been allowed in that the companies who are controlled by the insurance companies cant tell the difference between someone from Warrington and someone from Warsaw, Dorking or Delhi, Manchester or Mongolia.

They need ultimate proof of ID or the insurance giants wont pay up when some Lithuanian, plied with vodka takes the company van for a ride one night and smashes into a bunch of primary school kids.

When I'm in another country I respect all laws, customs, religion fervently because I am grateful to have a choice of working and living in another country. When I come here, I see foreigners acting so disrespectfully and sneering at the locals. Look at some of the derogatory the comments against Brits here for example? This is from people who are living and working here ...jobs given to them by British companies which has greatly enhanced their lives.
oxon   
25 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

LadyKangaroo....I don't know about your figures but you are probably talking about all those who have emigrated there over the last 60 years or so and whose name ends in 'ski. There will no doubt be a few 'ski's but they will have been there for a few generations and be citizens not knowing anything else and certainly won't be able to speak Polish. I saw one Pole in two months in western Australia and she was a bus driver with an attitude. Never seen a Pole with an attitude before.

Johnny ..you do talk some obscure bollox, don't you? What ever you say Blair removed, he was the leader of the socialist party born of the trade union movement after WW2. I will repeat that...he was the leader of the recognized socialist party of the UK and he poisoned the country. Your right though, he was never a socialist.

Australia's relatively high wages in relation to real estate prices is, I agree one of the most attractive traits about the place along with all the other things you mention. I met a lot of people out there and each time I reinforced what happened to the UK once the Poles were allowed in. Australia must never ever allow what happened to the UK to happen to them and I don't believe they will.

If it were allowed to happen, thousands of Eastern Europeans would arrive in cattle ships and manipulate the population with their smiles, good nature, willingness to work all hours for a pittance and behaving like slaves until there were enough of them to force change. I reinforced this time and again to all the people i met in bars and barbies. They are different to Brits and Aussies. You will get Poles with MBA's willing to lick their floors clean but they are only biding their time until their families arrive and they will turn suburbs into ghettoes.
oxon   
25 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

You bet your life there is a political war here. We had Blair masquerading as a socialist siding with a neo con government in the US responsible for the deaths of a million Iraqi's. All for big business and Haliburton. The left in trying to smash the right bring in all the recipients of warfare in their countries and they just walk in. We could have exported the NHS and welfare but that would not have created the hundreds of thousands of jobs here for people to step into.

Yes, other EU countries threw their doors open but the likes of Germany and Austria put a cap on you lot because they knew you would flee your grey, depressing tower blocks the moment you were let loose. The cap lasted ten years and I think it was restricted to a few thousand only. Not dumb Britain though. Don't worry said the politicians they will come and all go back eventually. Negative! When they saw the NHS and welfare systems built up by thelikes of my parents and grandparents they thought they had arrived in paradise. And all those people willing to employ them as well for a massive £3 per hour...WOW.

There were 2 million Poles alone here at one stage. Believe me. The place was crawling with them around all the city centres walking around in their gangs. All my experiences with Eastern Europeans bar one have been negative. They don't think the same and they don't behave the same. All this freedom (if that's what you can call it now is too new to them).

I'll pass on visiting Poland /Warsaw. On a personal level, I've just been told of the 3 Poles working in admin for a company which specialises in 'getting people back to work' Can you believe this. And don't come here and speak to our local homeless people about Eastern Europeans. No beds for them at times. Guess why?

What the F *** has happened to this world?

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-17055609

Hmm let me think... "Other countries" making it legal for them to work there, even without any permission ? Employers and employment agencies from "other countries" searching for workers in Poland ?

That's right Grezzzgorzz.....Cheap labour, no complaints, utter subservience, spineless, able and willing to work 19 hours a day. An employers and big businesses dream but unfortunately this this works only for a few and for a short time only. It cannot be sustained. This was one reason the government cracked down on employers paying below the minimum wage eventually.

Why do you think Australia is such an attractive prospect for Britons? Why do you think they welcome British workers above other nations? Multiculturalism does not work and Oz and New Zealand have seen this. Britain has proved this. We have developed ghettoes in and around the suburbs of London where all you will see in Wembley for example are Somalians, Muslim extremists and Eastern Europeans.
oxon   
25 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

This is the point revoke. There is a civil war afoot and it's highly political because everyone at the top are fighting with each other. The sub Marxists lobbyists bring in all the Somalians, Nigerians etc. We throw open our doors to the EU and allow the communists to join with the result that 2 million Poles, Latvians and god knows what else are sleeping in sheds and garages doing work for the elitists at £2 an hour which initially was a fortune to them.

England is a pretty grim place now but I can only guess at what a rat hole Warsaw must be for so many to come here. We are the toilet of the world admittedly and if it's any consolation to anyone, I'm staying for the fight to a)get us out of Europe and b) deport all those not born here. It wasnt always like this Revoke. Back n the 50's 60's and 70's people had pride, spirit and there was little crime. Our politicians have sold the country and you have reinforced that point.
oxon   
25 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Pushbike....This immigrants by association is pretty absurd is it not? What should Britain do? Open up the whole country to everyone from Africa under the premise that Africa was where man first evolved so therefore we are all brothers? What crap! And if some Poles have a better grasp of english than some locals...so what? Some French, Germans, Dutch also have a wider vocabulary than some locals but you don't see them arriving in busloads after 24 hour journeys looking like third world refugees. They have more dignity and decorum.

For your information, there is a law for over four people sharing a flat if it is rented out. It must fall under multiple occupation rules and be subject to strict rules and regulations regarding safety etc but this is my point. Being a foreigner here you don't know these things because you are here only because you want to make a bit of money for some bread utilise the services and sneer at us.

Also being a foreigner, there is no immediate crackdown on local welfare recipients because the army needs to recruit from somewhere and they would have a hard time recruiting if everyone were encouraged into further education and fulfilling work. Why don't you go and learn something about the country you are pillaging.
oxon   
25 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

jasondmzk
'I don't even know what that means, but it's probably more stupid than offensive,'

That's the ticket jason. Did you look up your 'How to F*** Britain and Get Away With Murder By Using The Laws Against Her Own People' handbook to see if you have a case of racial discrimination?

You could have a case you know if you have been offended.
oxon   
25 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Jason..by getting over it , you mean just be apathetic and do nothing don't you. Do nothing about this city/country which has become a huge toilet for seemingly endless reprobates. I'll make a deal with you~~you go to the daughter of of the old couple who were battered to death recently....grandparents battered to death with a claw hammer and convince them of the advantages of immigration.

Ireneusz Bartnowski was sentenced a couple of weeks ago (at the British tax payers expense). See how kind we are . We even pay for your criminals welfare. Will you do that. WILL YOU???????
oxon   
25 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Getting people to ignore laws and taxes and soldiers to stop serving their countries in corporate business wars whilst everyone is dependent on this stuff called money to live is pretty much a fantasy. It won't happen in my life time that's for sure. The media, sport, reality TV, are pumped into our lives constantly to stop us from thing, a means to deflect the attention away from the politicians agendas.

This is pretty much well known. Not a lot is going to happen in the near future.
For now though, part of the problem would be to tighten up the borders that have been eradicated. This would mean deporting people not born here, foreign criminals and compulsory laws for British companies and those foreign companies based here to employ British people only.

Australia really shocked me with their tight immigration laws when i was there last month. Safe clean cities with everyone speaking the same language and the quality of life unsurpassed. I like living amongst my own people. It makes me feel better. I have nothing in common with Eastern Europeans. They know nothing about music, the arts or how rigid a class system this country has operated under over the last few hundred years.

They had their solidarity struggles which started in Gdansk. Go back now. This country has a reputation for tolerance but underneath their is a lot of resentment.
oxon   
24 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

So you are English then 'arry. Then criticize all you want. It's your country/taxes/right etc. Just wonder why you comment on this site. Maybe you feel superior or something.

Point 2 ..People do work and others do live off welfare. People do work, lose their jobs and then live off welfare. Is it clear now?

Pics are on topic and maybe I will post tomorrow. I'll study this site a bit more then. thanks
oxon   
24 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

And if they were British Harry? So what? It's their country and they can behave any which way they choose. What gives you the right to criticize British people if you are an immigrant? What gives you the God dam right?? Maybe you are British with some sort of mixed blood , i don't know but for now I will assume you are Polish.

The idea of taking pics came from the Polish guy who was living in Cardiff and took all the pics of the drunken people in the city centre. A real eyesore to be sure. I thought then I should turn the tables a bit. People coming over here, getting jobs they only dreamed about in Poland and living off welfare and then highlighting all the BAD points about the UK ain't on .

Yes would post the pics. Can I do it on this site? I'm new here.
oxon   
24 Feb 2012
UK, Ireland / WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM? [309]

Au contraire modafinil. I actually believe that this country needs people to speak up now. This is actually my first forage into nationalism after my self imposed tour of London last week. The fact that I have tried to have my thoughts controlled for the past few years has galvanized me. The pictures I took were horrific. I have lived in Indonesia and Southern Africa at length and have travelled and stayed n most South East Asian countries and always I have respected their culture, religion, ethos etc. and that is how all respectable decent people should behave in another's country.

Now the realization has hit me hard that I am a MINORITY in my own country and I actually have to respect and bow down to other foreign cultures whilst some sneer at me knowing they can call the police on their mobiles ...the British police that is.

The pics of Asians and Blacks are hard hitting but what you don't see much of is the amount of Poles, Latvians, Lithuanians, etc because they can blend in more easily. Mother and father pushing prams at 11:00am in the town centres says only one thing to me and it isn't that the father is on his days off or on shift work.